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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 07:31:19 PM »

Not sure what I did but when I put a coin in it just clicks on the 2nd switch (middle) to the left of the step up counter
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 08:09:11 PM »

Please try to be specific.  Does it energize the coil of a relay?
A relay is a coil with some switches attached, with an armature that closes or opens the switches when the coil turns on.
Try to see if there is a label near it.  Might be called coin unit (odds) step up relay, or just step up relay and makes your odds increase.
You also have an odds reset relay that makes the odds return to 1 coin by resetting.
Your odds disc is operated by relays, which turn on momentarily and power the solenoids we talked about.
These relays are indirectly operated by the coin going across the coin in switch.
Odds reset (coin unit reset relay) happens on first coin in downstroke of the coin switch.  Odds (coin unit) step up relay works on 2nd coin in and up.
You can push on the armatures of these relays and watch what they do.
The X units, or multiplier units are those little white wheels in the top.  They also are operated by solenoids.
Which one of these turns on during a pay (only) is determined by what yours odds disc has selected.
A coil is an electromagnet that turns on with 50V. (or 120V sometimes).  When it's on it either pulls in a plunger (this is a solenoid), or it pulls down a piece of metal (armature) that in turn opens and closes switches.
It's important to know this terminology so that you can get and give help more efficiently.

Anyway, glad you're on this, and having fun I hope.  They are a marvel of engineering.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2013, 08:17:09 PM »

I will try to get a pic... It is behind the 3 multiplier wheels and to the left of the step up unit.  They are switches mounted vertica.  They move left to right with a plate on top
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2013, 09:44:05 PM »

It says coin unit step ip relays... It's the middle one that clicks but no coin is registered


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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2013, 09:47:54 PM »

Ok.. Put the hopper back in at it worked... Must be something loose...

When I jumper the step up solonoid it works but when I jump the reset solonoid... Nothing
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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2013, 10:08:56 PM »

Your reset solenoid may be toast.  Check it with your ohm-meter, and it should be somewhere in the neighborhood of your step up solenoid. (I'm guessing <30 ohms, but I could be FOS.)
Look carefully at the tiny wires coming from the coil to see if the are not broken and loose at the solder joint.
When you push the armature of the reset relay, does it pulse the reset solenoid?
When you push the step up relay armature does it step up the odds disc?
Do all the other coils work?  You can check them all using this method....
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2013, 10:12:47 PM »

Everything works except the reset... I can manually push the reset solonoid and it resets... When I tested the step up solonoid it sparked and stepped up fast... When I tested the reset solonoid I got nothing at all
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2013, 10:23:20 PM »

Did you use the jumper, or just push the armature?  You must always use fair pressure on your jumper wire to ensure that you get through the flux on the solder joint, and make good contact.  This has fooled me many times....
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2013, 10:25:57 PM »

I did use a jumper and the step up solonoid worked great... I will check the wires and re solder the reset solonoid
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2013, 11:20:05 PM »

Looks like one of the tiny copper wires is broke at the solonoid
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2013, 11:37:51 PM »

Scrape back the insulation, and you can carefully quickly resolder it. don't melt the wire.
Or order a new one, though, it's cool to save rebuildables.
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« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2013, 11:43:33 PM »

Thanks for all your help.. I am going to visit my pinball repair guy and see if he has a used one.. Any idea where I can get a win meter.. Mine is bad
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« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2013, 11:56:05 PM »

Nope.  Anyone???
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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2013, 03:08:25 AM »

I would check with Barry Fox for you win meter at Foxsslots. He has a banner under sponcers on the home page here.

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If it's jammed, force it... If it breaks it needed to be replaced anyway...
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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2013, 11:42:28 AM »

Barry Fox didn't have any left .... Anyone else?
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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2013, 01:32:33 AM »

Replaced the solonoid.. Works perfect!   Thanks again!
Having lots of fun with this machine.
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