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« on: August 10, 2010, 11:02:32 PM »

Hi, I have a question about an IGT Double Diamond from 1992.  It needed a battery replacement which I did, and now I need to use a clear chip.  I am wondering if mine will work on it.  The chip I have is for an S+, which looks a little different than this game.  This slot has the board mounted on the left side of the machine, and the off/on button at the bottom.  The board looks the same but I wanted to be double sure before I put the chip in.

Is this considered an S+ model and will the chip I have work on it as well?

Thanks,
Brandon
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 11:31:35 PM »

YES IT WILL WORK FINE . ITS S+
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2010, 12:15:23 AM »

Brandon   You most likely will not have to use a clear chip!!  If you have a BV you will need a set chip.   machine sounds like a older S+ with no BV,  a couple of pic. will tell for sure.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2010, 12:50:44 AM »

Thats exactly what it is Buzz!  It doesn't have a BV.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2010, 09:58:46 AM »

Brandon   You most likely will not have to use a clear chip!!  If you have a BV you will need a set chip.   machine sounds like a older S+ with no BV,  a couple of pic. will tell for sure.

I thought you said repeated times you dont know sh@t about slots Buzz !!!
you learn fast lmao !!-so i tossed you positive karma for trying lol
need more emails please -you know the type code >>x<<!!!

now lets sell Brandon a sidemount DBV so he can put bills in it ??
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2010, 02:50:05 PM »

  I won't sell him one, but I sure have one I'll give him !!  Something I should have thrown away years ago.

 This belongs in the BS section but here goes. After yesterday I think I know even less about slots than I ever did. I was trying to make a backup of an SS6992 chip for a S+ I only have 3 or 4 blank 27C64 chips and couldn't get get a good burn on any of them, so figured what the hell try some 27C256 that didn't work either, OK next choice was 27C512 same results. My eraser holds about 40 chips and I had it turned on for hours.  After 3 or 4 hours of this BS a HUGE light bulb exploded above my head, I have sitting in my living room a S 2000 5 line Triple Diamond slot machine. What does it have but a SS6993 chip. Made a copy and installed it in a S+ 10 times pay, all I know for sure is it takes 5 coins and the reels go round and round and pays off on something not sure what. The very next time I looked in a mirror I said to myself, there is a dumb s__t looking back at you.  Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh!
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 04:05:32 PM »

I had the same problem with a couple of chips.
I stuck them in the UV eraser for too long I think.
I can't get the programmer to tell they're blank.
Every time I do a "blank check" - there's like a couple of stubborn bytes that won't come out.
It's like they're in lock-down....lol
The programmer won't allow me to over-write anything onto them...arghhh!!

Anyways, I think if you forget and leave them in the eraser for too long...they fry?

My theory is that there's hundreds of little electric fences in there and the cows keep getting out... rotflmao
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 05:03:18 PM »

Anyways, I think if you forget and leave them in the eraser for too long...they fry?

Sounds about right to me.  From what I've been told, they can only be erased so many times before some of the components inside the chip melt or something and make the chip unusable.
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 06:13:42 PM »

I did some digging around and found this little tidbit I've forgotten about.
Click on it to see better...>>>


* eprom erasure.png (86.9 KB, 468x248 - viewed 248 times.)
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2010, 06:18:47 PM »

I don't see any cows in here though...lol
Click on the magnified photo to make larger!>>>


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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2010, 06:20:02 PM »

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The thing I mainly object to is HSW saying you can over-erase an EPROM. You cannot over-erase an EPROM. Once the charges are gone from the floating gate, you cannot remove any more charges, even if you leave it in the eraser for a year. I know where they got it from - you can over-erase a Flash ROM, because Flash is erased electrically by reversing the programming process and you must be careful not to leave the gate with a positive floating charge. But this isn't a danger with EPROMs.
 
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2010, 06:23:34 PM »

I remember that Op-Bell clip, Buzz....I'm glad you found it.   yes
That was a very interesting post that he made.
However, the question remains...why can't we get the residual garbage outta our chips?
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2010, 06:28:04 PM »

Bunker  If you go back a few post in that same thread, I think OP says it can be done with heat, but not something you can do at home. ( I think that's what he said ) At 50 cents each why mess with them?   Duh! Duh! Duh!
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2010, 06:40:18 PM »

lol...my wife is going to have a lot to say about me baking eproms in her kitchen oven stove.  rotflmao

I agree with you though...some eproms are not that expensive.
I pay too much for mine because I get the new electrical erasable ones from mouser
even though I know I can get them cheaper with the slow boat from china.
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2010, 06:45:22 PM »

 I won't sell him one, but I sure have one I'll give him !!  Something I should have thrown away years ago.

 This belongs in the BS section but here goes. After yesterday I think I know even less about slots than I ever did. I was trying to make another member a SS6992 chip for a S+ I only have 3 or 4 blank 27C64 chips and couldn't get get a good burn on any of them, so figured what the hell try some 27C256 that didn't work either, OK next choice was 27C512 same results. My eraser holds about 40 chips and I had it turned on for hours.  After 3 or 4 hours of this BS a HUGE light bulb exploded above my head, I have sitting in my living room a S 2000 5 line Triple Diamond slot machine. What does it have but a SS6993 chip. Made a copy and installed it in a S+ 10 times pay, all I know for sure is it takes 5 coins and the reels go round and round and pays off on something not sure what. The very next time I looked in a mirror I said to myself, there is a dumb s__t looking back at you.  Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh! Duh!


DONT TOSS AWAY THE SIDEMOUNT BUZZ --I WILL TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS --  I STILL USE THOSE ON A COUPLE UNIQUE SLOTS & PLUS USE THEM IN GAME DESIGN MACHINES I DO .


we will talk later about that item or items ..

i said send emails code >>X<<< not forty emails in one shot ..lol


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 I get back from doctors --i thought someone on NLG DIED !!!  I HAD SO MANY EMAILS ..LOL

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