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« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2012, 11:09:22 AM »

The TITO in & out works fine on my S9000, Great Job! but my M9000 won't take a ticket from my S9000 or my M9000......... Any suggestions? The menus are different on the M9000 & the S9000. Do the 2 require different settings? If so, what are they?

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« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2012, 12:16:56 PM »

The TITO in & out works fine on my S9000, Great Job! but my M9000 won't take a ticket from my S9000 or my M9000......... Any suggestions? The menus are different on the M9000 & the S9000. Do the 2 require different settings? If so, what are they?

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JR


Great...glad to hear it is working.  The setup menu can have slight variations depending on the year of manufacture of the OS (operating system) flash card so likely there is a single setting we are missing here.  Please PM me the following information and we will go from there.

1)  Phone number and best times of day to reach you....give me a range of time if you can.

2)  OS year of manufacture on both machines, the one that is working and the one that is not.
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« Reply #102 on: October 23, 2012, 10:57:01 AM »

JR,
What slots are these, S9000 & M9000 ?

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« Reply #103 on: October 23, 2012, 12:03:44 PM »

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« Reply #104 on: October 24, 2012, 10:40:18 AM »

JR,
Thanks for the response

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« Reply #105 on: October 24, 2012, 11:19:10 AM »

I just wanted to drop a quick note to all. I visited Jim yesterday and even though he was not feeling 100% he took the time fix a few problems I was having. I also had him install TITO devices in 4 machines for me. K+ for his outstanding service, attention to detail  and work ethic.

While we (he) was setting up the TITO in my S2000 he noticed an error in the setup instructions so I wanted to pass it along

Under 3.4 Communications Options the instructions tell you to press (Spin) (Cash Out) (Cash Out) (Cash Out) the correct sequence is (Spin) (Spin) (Spin) (Cash Out) 

hope this helps

* BETTOR TITO S2000-VISION-REEL TOUCH INSTALLATION.pdf (1291.3 KB - downloaded 460 times.)
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« Reply #106 on: October 25, 2012, 12:43:12 PM »

I just wanted to drop a quick note to all. I visited Jim yesterday and even though he was not feeling 100% he took the time fix a few problems I was having. I also had him install TITO devices in 4 machines for me. K+ for his outstanding service, attention to detail  and work ethic.

While we (he) was setting up the TITO in my S2000 he noticed an error in the setup instructions so I wanted to pass it along

Under 3.4 Communications Options the instructions tell you to press (Spin) (Cash Out) (Cash Out) (Cash Out) the correct sequence is (Spin) (Spin) (Spin) (Cash Out) 

hope this helps

Is this the latest reviison?

Maybe there should be a revision # or a date in the file name so we know which one is the latest version?

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« Reply #107 on: October 25, 2012, 01:05:29 PM »

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Is this the latest reviison?

Maybe there should be a revision # or a date in the file name so we know which one is the latest version?

-TheChad

The latest revision was emailed to you at 3:07 AM last night and also to your buddy Gary who I spoke on the phone with last night.  And the file is labeled "v2" to indicate it's version / most recent update.
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« Reply #108 on: October 25, 2012, 01:10:15 PM »

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Maybe there should be a revision # or a date in the file name so we know which one is the latest version?

-TheChad

The latest revision was emailed to you at 3:07 AM last night and also to your buddy Gary who I spoke on the phone with last night.  And the file is labeled "v2" to indicate it's version / most recent update.

Jim,

I did not recieve that email?   I know Gary said he did recieve a new manual from you.

I recieved 2 emails from you, the origional one, and a revised one..  So I'm assuming this is a 3rd revision?

Sorry, I'm just trying to keep all my info organized if/when I need to work on the machine I want to make sure I have the current/correct info!

Thanks!

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« Reply #109 on: October 25, 2012, 01:18:30 PM »

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Sorry, I'm just trying to keep all my info organized if/when I need to work on the machine I want to make sure I have the current/correct info!

Thanks!

I just resent to you, let me know if you did not receive it.  Please discard any previous versions of the manual you many have received and keep the one received on today's date and you are officially organized.
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« Reply #110 on: October 25, 2012, 01:21:01 PM »

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Sorry, I'm just trying to keep all my info organized if/when I need to work on the machine I want to make sure I have the current/correct info!

Thanks!

I just resent to you, let me know if you did not receive it.  Please discard any previous versions of the manual you many have received and keep the one received on today's date and you are officially organized.

10-4.  Just recieved the file!

Will purge all previous versions!

Thanks,

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« Reply #111 on: October 25, 2012, 05:10:05 PM »

Jim Slayer,
     I woul like to order two of your TITO kits. I have been looking for something like this for years! Please send me an invoice and payment perfered.
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« Reply #112 on: October 25, 2012, 11:53:51 PM »

Here is the latset manual, 10/25/2012

* BETTOR TITO S2000-VISION-REEL TOUCH INSTALLATION v2.pdf (1660.98 KB - downloaded 267 times.)
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« Reply #113 on: October 26, 2012, 02:08:52 AM »

why am i getting a lot of misreads lately on my wba13 with inserting the tickets??? there for $1000 and i get various amounts at times? but on my mei i never get any misreads Scratch Head Scratch Head
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« Reply #114 on: October 26, 2012, 02:28:10 AM »

why am i getting a lot of misreads lately on my wba13 with inserting the tickets??? there for $1000 and i get various amounts at times? but on my mei i never get any misreads Scratch Head Scratch Head

Likely it needs calibrated, cleaned, or the head needs replaced.
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« Reply #115 on: October 26, 2012, 02:32:19 AM »

will def calibrate it as soon as i can get calabrated paper.....
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« Reply #116 on: October 26, 2012, 02:37:46 AM »

i tell ya from having both bill validaters a wba13 and a mei..... i think the mei out beats wba's by a long shot....
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« Reply #117 on: October 27, 2012, 10:59:16 AM »

I put in $12,000 in tickets in my JCM validator and ended up with $54,104.40 in the machine, a Bally Alpha S9000.
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« Reply #118 on: October 27, 2012, 04:24:47 PM »

For sure the Mar's MEI you have in your machine Staz is a superior BV when comparing to any WBA.  Those are super fast and you don't dare get your bill within and inch of the bill entry area because it will suck the bill right out of your hand before you have a chance to change your mind about it   Tongue Out.

But you can't put a JCM WBA 12/13 next to the current Mar's product and say that one company did a bad job and the other company did good.  They are from different generations of design and production and to do a fair comparison you have to put it next to JCM's current product the "UBA".  These are the two current competing products.

The older WBA's (12/13) are going to be quirky given their age.  Slow running motors, belts that should be replaced, and the need for calibration or replacement heads all together.  All that just hinders a proper read when you insert a bill or ticket.  On the positive side...at least you can update the software on the WBA's.  And if you are getting incorrect readings when inserting a ticket, since you know it is printing the ticket with the correct number on it, then you have to start looking at your BV.
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« Reply #119 on: November 02, 2012, 06:53:33 PM »

Hi Better Slots,

I have an IGT S2000 Double 3X4X5X.  Will this unit work in this machine.  It sure sounds great.  Don't have to leave cash lying around.

Thanks for your reply,

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« Reply #120 on: November 02, 2012, 07:59:18 PM »

Yes it will.  PM sent.
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« Reply #121 on: November 03, 2012, 01:07:15 AM »

Okay, so my TITO is working fantastic!

However, I wanted to note because it was discussed earlier in the post that you COULD copy tickets..

I have tried doing this and have been unsucessfull.   I scanned the origional tickets @ 600 DPI, and printed them on premium Inkjet paper.  I then cut them out to the EXACT same size as the orgional ticket.

My paper obviously isn't glossy like the thermal paper, but I didn't think that would matter as it was just going to read the barcode!

Anyway, the ticket goes in, the machine says "Validating ticket" the BV clicks and sputters, then it spits the ticket back out.

I don't believe this to be a problem with the TITO device itself, but rather the BV.   Maybe the paper is too thick?  Maybe it not being glossy is affecting it?

Anyway, the tickets them selves are reusable,  but scanning them and printing them doesn't seem to actually work..

Maybe someone else will figure out a way?  But as of right now I can not get coppied tickets to work!

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« Reply #122 on: November 03, 2012, 02:33:11 AM »

I have not noticed that tickets being glossy and I have 2 different paper sources
(or at least paper that is older and newer)
I can say this also that the bar code format used is not error proof
I had a ticket that was 16xxx.xx in value  the BV read it as 86xxx .xx and it was redeemed for that amount.
that is why in a real world setting a casino they use a database and most likely enhanced validation.

Also you have to remember that the various programmers should design the BV to reject a copy of a ticket (just in case some one tries to double or triple a cash out)
Justy because you print a cash out ticket does not mean you have to redeem it that day
which gives the cheats time to duplicate a ticket and try to cash it in more than one time
machine does not care if the casino logo is on the back of the ticket only the cashiers cage would notice it missing.

 Maybe a toner or ink jet produced ticket (copied) looks different at Infrared or Ultraviolet spectrum that is probably used in the BV
 
I do know this the older ticket stock I use gives me problems compared to the newer ticket stock.

note I have not had my BV calibrated or updated since 2007 so that could be a factor as well
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« Reply #123 on: November 03, 2012, 02:37:17 AM »

All thermal paper is glossy..

I'm pretty sure it has to do with the paper it self not the barcode.

-TheChad

I have not noticed that tickets being glossy and I have 2 different paper sources
(or at least paper that is older and newer)
I can say this also that the bar code format used is not error proof
I had a ticket that was 16xxx.xx in value  the BV read it as 86xxx .xx and it was redeemed for that amount.
that is why in a real world setting a casino they use a database and most likely enhanced validation.

Also you have to remember that the various programmers should design the BV to reject a copy of a ticket (just in case some one tries to double or triple a cash out)
 
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« Reply #124 on: November 03, 2012, 03:04:40 AM »

I can say that----------It does.  Word-up-- Tongue Out  --about the paper.  It does have to do with the paper,thickiness/ply,transperancy -etc. --Not regular paper in them in my opinion. Take a sheet and micrometer out, scan it, duplicate it and by the time you are done with that process go by a regular case of ticket paper!.  The bv's gotta see it.
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