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« on: March 22, 2013, 05:08:45 PM »
I recently bought a non-working Bally 5000+ "Cold Cash" slot machine.  Initially, there was no power.  The award glass is missing, and the previous owner's kids must have used the opening to drop various items onto the I/O board from above.  Disassembling the machine to clean it, I found a door hinge pin (like you might find holding the front door to its frame on your home) shorting between the I/O board and the frame.  I replaced the first and third fuse (5 amp), and powered it up.

The fluorescent lamps light, but the two LEDs on the MPU board flash continuously, about once per second.  I am hampered by the missing LED display, and cannot therefore determine an error code.

My questions are:

1. What items are missing?  Is there also a bracket to support the LED display?  Does anyone have a photograph of this area?

2. I assume it can operate without the LED display.  The MPU board has EPROMs in the U12 and U15 sockets, and a daughterboard which plugs into the U20 and U18 sockets.  The daughterboard has 4 more EPROMs, which are labelled U4, U20, U3 and U18.  Is there a special method for clearing RAM for this type of MPU board?

The EPROMs are as follows:
U12 - ME600000-2-1 03/20/89 27C512
U15 - ME600000-2-0 03/20/89 27C512
Daughterboard:
U3 - SE6A0000000-2-3 03/20/89 27C512
U4 - SE6A0000000-2-2 03/20/89 27C512
U18 - E070011X-05 08-16-91 27C256
U20 - E070011X-05 08-16-91 27C256

Thank you for any help you can provide!

-Bob Carroll

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 1 - Front.JPG (872.24 KB, 1200x1600 - viewed 952 times.)

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 4 - Missing LED display area.JPG (794.83 KB, 1200x1600 - viewed 480 times.)
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 05:13:07 PM »
Here are photographs of the MPU and I/O boards.

-Bob Carroll

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 9 - MPU board AS-3356-6 Rev J.JPG (1449.77 KB, 1600x1200 - viewed 981 times.)

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 10 - Control board.JPG (1449.05 KB, 1600x1200 - viewed 641 times.)
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 05:20:06 PM »
Here are photographs of the inside front door and lower interior.

-Bob Carroll

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 3 - Front door interior.JPG (903.24 KB, 1600x1200 - viewed 627 times.)

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 5 - Lower interior.JPG (969.58 KB, 1600x1200 - viewed 925 times.)
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 05:22:40 PM »
Here are photographs of the reels and motherboard.

-Bob Carroll

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 6 - Reels.JPG (821.09 KB, 1600x1200 - viewed 880 times.)

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 8 - Motherboard.JPG (799.94 KB, 1600x1200 - viewed 925 times.)
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 05:31:08 PM »
Here are photographs of the manufacturer tags and the upper interior (missing the "Cold Cash" Award Glass, unfortunately).

-Bob Carroll

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 2 - Tags.JPG (746.93 KB, 1200x1600 - viewed 500 times.)

* Bally 5000+ Cold Cash 7 - Reward glass missing.JPG (627.61 KB, 1600x1200 - viewed 340 times.)
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2013, 06:51:46 PM »
hope you didn,t over pay
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 07:16:06 PM »
Quote from: slotsteve on March 22, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
hope you didn,t over pay

Dirt cheap!
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 08:19:28 PM »
Close to free I hope.
I bought a parts complete Bally V5500 for $30
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 08:30:39 PM »
Quote from: proten on March 22, 2013, 08:19:28 PM
Close to free I hope.
I bought a parts complete Bally V5500 for $30

Good buy.  Did you part it out or repair it?

I have a weakness for wanting to repair basket cases.
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2013, 12:29:06 AM »
I repaired it, put a battery on the board and
did a ram clear and it was up and running.
I've repaired some of the draw/hold buttons,
but was worth every dollar.

I've only parted out one machine - a Summit.

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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2013, 12:25:43 PM »
Quote from: proten on March 23, 2013, 12:29:06 AM
I repaired it, put a battery on the board and
did a ram clear and it was up and running.
I've repaired some of the draw/hold buttons,
but was worth every dollar.

I've only parted out one machine - a Summit.

Very nice.  Thanks for providing the photograph.

-BC
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2013, 06:23:07 PM »
1. There seems to be a plastic frame attached to the glass with double sided tape. And LED PCB is attached to this frame with four screws.

2. Seems that the game doesn't start without display. I disconnected my display and powered up the game. The two LEDs on CPU just started to blink once per second just like yours. I didn't pull out the PCB but it looks like there's just two IC's and the 7-segments. Maybe there's a way to fool CPU to think that the display is there?

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2013, 12:01:54 PM »
Quote from: retroelectro on April 06, 2013, 06:23:07 PM
1. There seems to be a plastic frame attached to the glass with double sided tape. And LED PCB is attached to this frame with four screws.

2. Seems that the game doesn't start without display. I disconnected my display and powered up the game. The two LEDs on CPU just started to blink once per second just like yours. I didn't pull out the PCB but it looks like there's just two IC's and the 7-segments. Maybe there's a way to fool CPU to think that the display is there?



This is extraordinarily useful information.  Thank you as well for the photograph.  Now I can see what I'm looking for.

Thanks very much!

-Bob Carroll
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