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Title: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: proten on August 03, 2011, 10:37:15 PM
I have a 1492 in a Bally and I can't get it to fire up.
It is blacked out and chirping.
I have replaced the LA7830
and the listed caps below.
#317 - 150uf
#286 - 100uf
#215 - 1000uf
#230 - 1uf
#233 - 1uf
#191 - 470uf

Any one have any suggestions on what to try next?
Paul



Title: Re: 1482 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: Firebird on August 03, 2011, 11:05:21 PM
try the IC at location 280, it is the power IC, it is a C5184


Title: Re: 1482 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: proten on August 03, 2011, 11:28:36 PM
Thanks I will try that next.
I have made some progress as the monitor
only clicked at first and now I have a fast chirp.

Paul


Title: Re: 1482 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: morning_glory21 on August 04, 2011, 04:31:35 AM
chirping Ceronix may indicate a bad HOT or flyback as well


Title: Re: 1482 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: Belbtech on August 04, 2011, 05:27:13 AM
You can try looking up your problem at;
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=11201.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=11201.0)
it deals with Ceronix 1490 & 1492 monitors along with RGB monitors & a few other oddball monitors...

If your monitor is "Chirping" your problem is in the monitor's power supply area...if you go checking voltages you should use V- for your ground as using a "normal" ground will cause you to chase your tail with all kinds of useless readings.  V- comes from component 280 (a XRC5184 IC), it is a pwr supply IC...pin 9 is V- check it with pin 8, you should have +7.5V at pin 8...then check pin 15 for +17V if it is there check pin 16 for +15V, if pin 16 is below +15V change component 280...

Hope this helps...

God bless,
Mike><>


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: proten on September 02, 2011, 09:05:02 PM
I just changed out the IC  C5184 and I have no change in the display.
I have a black screen and the PS is fast chirping.
There is no high voltage at the screen so I guess that the Fly Back transformer is bad.
What is the HOT?
Does this sound right?
 


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: Firebird on September 02, 2011, 10:12:20 PM
HOT= Horizontal Output Transistor, it is basically the big switch that turns it on. Did you check the other 2 big capacitors at postions 256 & 257?


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: proten on September 03, 2011, 12:13:40 AM
No, should I order then with a fly back transformer?
When I ordered my caps those came as singles.


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: cowboygames on September 03, 2011, 12:42:13 AM
I would think a bad flyback is unlikely. The horizontal output is a good bet. If you have an electronic voltmeter put the red lead on the center leg of the HOT and the black on each of the outside legs with the meter on diode stting. If you get a tone to either leg then it's a bad HOT


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: cowboygames on September 03, 2011, 01:00:14 AM
 I should add, if you lost the HOT you probably lost the voltage regulator with it. If you replaced the voltage regulator with a bad HOT you probably lost the voltage regulator IC again. Not gauranteed, but likely. Voltage regulators are kinda delicate.


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: Firebird on September 03, 2011, 03:54:56 AM
Do you have a capacitor tester to test those caps? I have seen several times when those are bad it will make it chirp, not always, but you seem to have covered a lot of the other possibilities. Or you can just change them if you have them.


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: proten on September 03, 2011, 04:13:43 AM
 :92- IT'S FIXED :92-

Thanks to cowboygames I found the problem.
The center lead of the HOT was broken - Looks like a stress break.
A dab of solder and it is running like a champ.
I have another HOT on order but I now know that this will fix it.
K++ to cowboygames ,Belbtech, morning_glory21 and Firebird for your help.

Paul


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: cowboygames on September 03, 2011, 01:32:11 PM
Good Job! Glad it's working for you :89-


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: morning_glory21 on September 04, 2011, 01:47:59 AM
:92- IT'S FIXED :92-

Paul

 :105-   :133-   sounds like you earned some.... :278-


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: proten on September 04, 2011, 02:14:39 AM
I wish   :25-  now I have to get back on my other V5500.
It has a SEGAI monitor that the width of the picture is to wide.  :123-
I think I will cap it an see if that helps.  :103-


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: cowboygames on September 04, 2011, 02:56:04 AM
That's gonna be in the vertical section, probably a feed resistor off the fjyback, but could be as simple as the yoke slide back on the neck of the tube


Title: Re: 1492 Ceronix Monitors in a Bally
Post by: 77wangusi on November 26, 2011, 03:22:34 PM
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