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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2009, 11:40:12 AM »
Thanks for your help everybody.   I'm in L.A. now leaving for a cruise today.  I'll be back online after the 20th.

HAPPY EASTER!!
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2009, 11:41:54 AM »
Have a great time.  Does the ship have a casino?,, take some pics if you can.

Thanks,
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2009, 12:59:25 PM »
Wow, wish I was on a cruise.  yes Have a great time.

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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2009, 04:46:17 PM »
I am sure the ship has internet access.... stay in touch.
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2009, 07:44:49 PM »
Hi Everyone - I just got back with my trip and I'm playing with this machine again.  I got the chip from Jim and here is what happened -  I pulled out the transport and cash can.  I put the chip in and placed the can and transport back in.  Now I am getting an error 55 (cash can not installed) -  I pulled it in and out same error 55.
There is a switch on the back of the holder for the can.  What are the correct position for the wires?  There are two of them and they were both loose.
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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2009, 07:58:17 PM »
I did a RAM clear and that took care of that -

But still I have a problem with the bill validator - it still doesn't crank up when I turn on the machine and I get the red x on the front display.
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Do I have to do anything to activate it ?
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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2009, 08:38:49 PM »
Welcome back, I hope your cruise went well.  The switch in the rear of the cash can/bv housing can be removed as it doesn't do anything for home use.  55 just meant that your BV didn't initialize.  Do you hear it cycle when you restart or remove and reinstall the cash can?  does it sound like it's straining?  Your BV may need servicing.  open the head and see if the belts are loose?.

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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2009, 08:54:15 PM »
Thanks Wayne!!!! The cruise was great - I spent some time in the casino - they had tuns of S-2000 machines and a tuns of wms dotmation machines.  I also looked at the igt-i games they had about 10 titles.   (just scoping out my next purchase muhahahaaa) -

Anyway back to the problem at hand -- after I did the ram clear the machine boots up will let me play with coin -   I don't hear the bv cycle at all.
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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2009, 09:03:37 PM »
That's the danger of going to a casino, I find myself shopping, only without the stressful feeling that I have when I go shopping with my wife.

as for your BV you need to check both the orientation of the chip (notch) as weel as look for bent pins.  Also check the harness from the connector on the housing to the backplane board, remove reel # 3 to gain easy access.  Do the leds on the bv light up, look in the slot as well as from the side where the dip switches are for the red light. Do you have another one to try, I have come across a few bad transports and/ or heads.

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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2009, 09:11:27 PM »
I agree, I was just at Blue Chip and found myself playing I game titles, Bluebird titles and S2000 themes including different 5 reelers getting my  want list sorted out.  yes

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« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2009, 09:21:38 PM »
I followed the wires down from the harness to the connector and I see a yellow and black wire that aren't connected to anything as well as three red and black wires that have been cut.  The head does have red glowing lights  - 

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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2009, 09:38:59 PM »
All the dip switches are in the off position too.
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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2009, 09:57:07 PM »
It looks like I have another clue to this... That black and yellow wire look like they went to another one of those switches that Wayne said could be removed.   Now here is where things get interesting -  I am back with that code 55.   

When I open the door I get the normal error 50 - but then I get error 50.29  Which is a communication problem with the BV.

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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2009, 12:27:05 AM »
Quote from: tacman on April 20, 2009, 09:11:27 PM
I agree, I was just at Blue Chip and found myself playing I game titles, Bluebird titles and S2000 themes including different 5 reelers getting my  want list sorted out.  yes

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« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2009, 01:38:29 AM »
Quote from: jdkmunch on April 20, 2009, 09:57:07 PM
It looks like I have another clue to this... That black and yellow wire look like they went to another one of those switches that Wayne said could be removed.   Now here is where things get interesting -  I am back with that code 55.  

When I open the door I get the normal error 50 - but then I get error 50.29  Which is a communication problem with the BV.

 Scratch Head

I have a feeling you have either a bad head or transport, the 55 error would go away if the bv initialized correctly.  I'm guessing you don't have a spare.  Anyone close to you?

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« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2009, 01:41:32 AM »
I forgot to ask what your main board settings were? dip switches set to JCM?  DS2 sw5 on, sw6 off fro the JCM WBA.  If these are set wrong it could do it.

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« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2009, 08:28:18 AM »
I would guess head first as the Canadian games had the head replaced here in the US, but also make sure the connector in the rear of the frame is the same (for a WBA 12/13 and not a wedge connector for a 10/11) also that the harness is plugged into the backplane,  but if you send me the Head and Transport I would be more than glad to test and see if that is the problem
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« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2009, 10:21:57 AM »
Yeah unfortunately I don't have a spare.  What I'm going to do is test the continuity between the wires on the transport connector and the head.   That bundle of small wires looks like they were pinched going in and out of the slot.
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« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2009, 09:45:55 PM »
Quote from: a69mopar on April 21, 2009, 01:41:32 AM
I forgot to ask what your main board settings were? dip switches set to JCM?  DS2 sw5 on, sw6 off fro the JCM WBA.  If these are set wrong it could do it.

Thanks,
Wayne

I checked the board and the correct switches are set -

Could it be the chip I bought?   How much does a 13  transport go for?
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« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2009, 10:56:04 PM »
I agree with Jim, it's most likely the head, when the bv doesn't cycle at all. 
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« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2009, 10:58:34 PM »
I'll send the stuff to Jim for testing.  Thanks!
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« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2009, 03:40:36 PM »
Good news and Bad news, the Good news is your transport looks like new, the Bad news is there are no Motors in it, see pics, but at least you know the machine isn't messed up

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« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2009, 03:58:40 PM »
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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2009, 05:05:34 PM »
Heres the finished solution, 2 motors 2 drive gear & flags and clean up the head, calibrated and tested, you are good to go now, you will have back Monday

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« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2009, 05:42:20 PM »
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