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« on: December 11, 2009, 02:47:58 PM »

Got my first slot, a Bally 6000 Memphis Blues. From reading past posts I believe that the odds are changed by replacing the personality chips. How can I tell what the payout is on the game now? Where do I buy new chips and what should they cost? What is a good payout percentage for home use?
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2009, 03:46:26 PM »

Got my first slot, a Bally 6000 Memphis Blues. From reading past posts I believe that the odds are changed by replacing the personality chips. How can I tell what the payout is on the game now? Where do I buy new chips and what should they cost? What is a good payout percentage for home use?

You are correct changing the personality will change the %
shut off the machine pull the board out and post back what SMI# is on the chips located at U18 and U20
who knows you might have the highest percentage in now but doubtfull
you can buy the chips from the vendors listed above.
Home user % depends I like mine around %92
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 05:39:52 PM »

How low does Bally go?
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 06:02:21 PM »

Or you can push the test button once and watch the display you will get the chip part number and the Hi and Low Payback Percentage in the display
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 06:16:59 PM »

Not sure which is the smi number. The chips have E761511X-05...27C256....L98-2711. Any of those what we are looking for. Pushed the test button once and got a lot of numbers but no sure what to look for there either. Thanks for the help.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 06:30:45 PM »

Not sure which is the smi number. The chips have E761511X-05...27C256....L98-2711. Any of those what we are looking for. Pushed the test button once and got a lot of numbers but no sure what to look for there either. Thanks for the help.

Game Name                                                                  SMI #   Part Number      Max Hit    Max-Coin Percentage   Top Award   coins

CITY SCAPES NEW YORK, SEATTLE, SAN FRAN 2 CM   8673   E761311X-05      17.04   95.52   40000   2CM
CITY SCAPES NEW YORK, SEATTLE, SAN FRAN 2 CM   8674   E761411X-05      16.81   93.54   40000   2CM
CITY SCAPES NEW YORK, SEATTLE, SAN FRAN 2 CM   8675   E761511X-05      16.53   91.53   40000   2CM
CITY SCAPES NEW YORK, SEATTLE, SAN FRAN 2 CM   8676   E761611X-05      16.12   89.46   40000   2CM
CITY SCAPES NEW YORK, SEATTLE, SAN FRAN 2 CM   8677   E761711X-05      15.64   87.56   40000   2CM


Hope this helps.

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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2009, 06:31:45 PM »

The E number is the Part Number of the software, we crossed it for you, it is SMI 8675 the Max Payout percentage is 91.53 %
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2009, 06:32:44 PM »

Wayne, I bet you were popular with the girls in high school with those fast hands
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2009, 06:36:55 PM »

How low does Bally go?
That all depends on the game, most go as low as the high to mid 80s with a few going down to 80

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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2009, 06:37:33 PM »

Wayne, I bet you were popular with the girls in high school with those fast hands
They were always intrigued by my big feet.

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2009, 06:39:39 PM »

Wayne, I bet you were popular with the girls in high school with those fast hands
They were always intrigued by my big feet.

w

Telling on yourself now dude! I thought you were married
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2009, 06:40:22 PM »

Wayne, I bet you were popular with the girls in high school with those fast hands
They were always intrigued by my big feet.

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Telling on yourself now dude! I thought you were married

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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2009, 06:41:24 PM »

If she heard or read every word I say or type, it would be "were"

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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2009, 07:01:36 PM »

Sorry for all the newbie questions. Is the payout number the percent that is paid back, so the higher the number the looser the slot? Is 92% about what most people have their home slots set on? About how much do the chips cost if I wanted to change the payout? Thanks again for the help.
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2009, 07:09:16 PM »

For home owned slots, you want the highest you can get for your particular game...
90% to 98% for the player.
If you want a realistic game floor chip, then go as low as the casinos go...
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2009, 08:26:41 PM »

Sorry for all the newbie questions. Is the payout number the percent that is paid back, so the higher the number the looser the slot? Is 92% about what most people have their home slots set on? About how much do the chips cost if I wanted to change the payout? Thanks again for the help.

Most chips are represented in payback percentage.  payback percentage + hold percentage would equal 100%, so on a 92% chip it would have a hold percentage of 8%, this would be the amount the casino would get if the machine functions to it's intended percentage.  Keep in mind this percentage is achieved over years of play and periods of low or periods of high payback would average out.  For bally machines, a 92% is a pretty good payback chip to have, however  some like to have a higher percentage. 
Your Bally machine takes two chips, U18 and U20, called personality chips, when changing these you will need a set of Saferam Clear chips to set the game up afterwards.  Slot machines are controlled and manufactured for the gaming industry initially, so the availability of various percentage chips is limited to what dealers collected through the years, either out of machines, from extra chips that came with them, or from way back when you could buy them from distributors ($135 I think).  I would suggest you try to enjoy your machine the way it is and if you wish to increase the payback percentage , then post a WTB or contact the vendors at the top, with the exception of myself since i don't sell chips.  Jim at Blueridge has a great selection of chips and may have what you need, his number is on his posts.  Jim also has the Saferam Clear chips you would need.

Thanks,
Wayne

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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 12:27:07 AM »

If she heard or read every word I say or type, it would be "were"

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No it wouldn't.  propeller  Your wife is one classy lady.  yes

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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 12:46:22 AM »

So are you Stat...................................................................I mean one class act that is!  A little humour with the truth, gotta love it  wave

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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 08:52:19 AM »

If she heard or read every word I say or type, it would be "were"

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No it wouldn't.  propeller  Your wife is one classy lady.  yes

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So are you Stat...................................................................I mean one class act that is!  A little humour with the truth, gotta love it  wave

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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2009, 03:50:34 AM »

If she heard or read every word I say or type, it would be "were"

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No it wouldn't.  propeller  Your wife is one classy lady.  yes

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So are you Stat...................................................................I mean one class act that is!   A little humour with the truth, gotta love it  wave

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