Bally Continental 847 Reels Shake not spin new member please help

[Karliesdad88]

Here are the reel mechanisms beau pins. I had to replace one of the long ones with a in wired one off the coin hopper. I don't know if this rigging will work I want to replace them all for nice and tight ones anyone recommend making a different connection. I seem someone using a different type of plug for the wires.

[Karliesdad88]

Side of the reel mechanism. I have a multi meter now after the helpful foxslots told me I would need one but not sure of what to do yet

[Karliesdad88]

Parts I've ordered so far for this machine are door lock, bulbs for the feature glass and reel glass. I need a bulb for the coin tray and not sure if the belly glass takes a bulb?

[Amachanic]

You can test spin the reels outside of the cabinet. If you look at the half gear on the right side has a 1/4" or 5/16" hole in it just above the stud bearing. I put a bolt in that hole, then take a long handle screw driver or something similar and put it between the bolt and bearing. Pull the screw drive like the outside handle to spin the reels. If they still don't spin correctly then we know the problem lies in the reel mech. I would start by removing the white plastic piston cylinder to clean it a grease it lightly. The seals inside turn to a sticky tar causing the handle to stick. Replacement seals are not available any where. Keep us posted.

Gary

[Karliesdad88]

Thanks Gary. I am going to try that soon. Thanks for all the quick replies its really nice to get help on this thing. I can't wait to get it working. The cabinet door for some reason won't stay closed all the way I don't have a lock yet but used a screw driver to lift the linkage up and down but for some reason it doesn't stay completely closed maybe it needs a lock or door adjustment.

[Karliesdad88]

I just did the test spin. I can't stay away haha. It still did not spin. I took the white plastic cylinder off and there is only a piston no seals or gunk in there? Should instill clean it out and re oil?

[Karliesdad88]

Piston

[Karliesdad88]

Cylinder

[Amachanic]

Someone else had the fun of cleaning it out already. I wouldn't hurt to grease it, but lightly... There is a pin size air hole in the very bottom of the cylinder. Make sure it's open. If you put too much grease in the cylinder it will squirt out that air hole making a mess. Still sounds like the linkages and levers are frozen on the shafts. I have had good luck fixing this problem many times and no need to do a total tear down. Just spray the pivot point on the shafts then move them side to side to free them up. I remember doing my first one, I didn't realize all those pieces needed to move. I thought they were fixed solid to the shafts by a set screw or key way.

Gary

[Karliesdad88]

Ok I'll give that a try. Thanks. The little air hole is open. Ill add a little bit of grease to the inners of the plastic cylinder. Are these the parts in the picture you are saying to  oil? I sprayed rem oil on the but ill do more and work the around. If I manually pull one of the reel combs back and let go it stop the reel very fast is this normal it seems maybe because I'm just pulling the comb back by hand and not pulling the actual lever. 

[Karliesdad88]

I freed up those pieces that spin on the shaft and oiled them and tried it still won't spin I didn't have any grease here so will put some in the cylinder tomorrow will that give it better compression? And should I just apply a thin coat to the inside walls thanks man

[slotsteve]

take a pic of clock  its thing with brass fan   on it  to me it looks to be missing unless its inside mech , like slim lines had them          never mind didn,t see 2nd page of pic,s  its there

[Amachanic]

I freed up those pieces that spin on the shaft and oiled them and tried it still won't spin I didn't have any grease here so will put some in the cylinder tomorrow will that give it better compression? And should I just apply a thin coat to the inside walls thanks man

Just a very thin layer of grease..  That's what I call the back shaft. If you look there are two pieces side by side.. One have a roll pin through it, the othe is floating on that shaft.. They are separated by spacers that will spin on the back shaft. Make sure the one without the roll pin move freely.. Now there are two or three more shafts under the reels that need attention too. I beleave everything under the reels is free floating on those shafts. There are also four links and spring, one for each reel that control how fast the reels will stop. Be careful because its easy to knock off one of those springs. I'm sure your problem lies with all those stuck levers.

Gary

[Karliesdad88]

Sweet i have a clear picture of what I need to do thanks a ton Mr Gary. Those sleeves I freed up seemed like they were stuck pretty well. I see the part your talking about the brass looking round ones and one has the set screw. I will make sure the one without the screw is free and under the reels I hope this does the trick I will give it a shot after I get home later I have to help my dad with some stuff today he has a sandblasting and painting business so I have the perfect set up for restoration! I do want to get the front and lever re chromed on this machine as well as the thin pieces around the feature and belly glass. The previous owner of this machine said it was left outside for a while. That definitely explains gears being froze up. I can't wait to have a working machine besides my bank slot machine you know the plastic ones haha. One day I just wanted a slot machine and I get "obsessed" so here I am this is definitely a great hobby way better than nitro rc I think. I hope to get a pinball machine one day

[Karliesdad88]

I took the reels off and cleaned everything with wd40 than I sprayed it down with rem oil. I also greased the white plastic cylinder very lightly. On about the tenth quarter the reels spun than after that they didn't. Now my machine won't let me pull the lever when I put a quarter in. Talk about frustration. I was happy for about 2 seconds when it spun yay. I tried hitting the coin switch to activate the lever like I did the other day and I could just hear a click from behind the feature panel. It would not let me pull the lever I by passes it so that I could pull the lever and the reels are still stuck. I'm probably going to have to tear it down when I get a manual I think it something is out of place. I'm not going to give up!

[Karliesdad88]

Now the lever will pull when putting coin in but still no spin after putting 20 coins thru.

[Karliesdad88]

Don't know if this piece is in the right position

[Karliesdad88]

I'm pretty sure now that the part that releases the reel stopping arms is not working right. It seems like they are supposed to hold the reel stoppers for an amount of time but doesn't. However it did spin a few times and some of the times a few of the reels spun but not all and now it's going from taking a coin and lever pulling and then it will not take a quarter and pull.

[Karliesdad88]

Not sure if there are springs missing here

[mark the spark]

just a thought but when the reels are out of the machine can you hold the mech and push the plunger in by hand, do the reels kick off?

[Karliesdad88]

Your saying to just push the Piston in to the plastic piece? I've tried doing it the way amachanic said by putting a bolt in the small hole on the half gear and using a screwdriver to pull the reels. I went to the casino today and talked to a slot guy who worked there and he was telling me to make sure the reels are on the right spots when you put them in. Is there any certain position the reels should be in? He said there may be notches on the place where there supposed to initially be placed. Maybe he's referring to newer machines. I haven't checked this out for myself yet.

[Amachanic]

These type of reels are different then the newer ones. You need to make sure that the flat on the end of the reel shaft I beleave is forward when you lock it back in place with the spring loaded levers on both ends. You can test the reels mech without the reels installed to make sure things are working correctly. It will give you a better idea of how it all works too.

Gary

[Karliesdad88]

I just found that this spring at left is hitting the round post back on the flat metal. When that lever goes back the spring hits it and it feels like a grinding.

[Karliesdad88]

I probably need to take a file to that has anyone had this problem?

[Karliesdad88]

I have a good feeling this is what the problem is now. That spring that is hitting the metal is in the arm that holds the reel stoppers back. I think maybe because this one on the first reel is hitting the piece of metal on the side it never locks back and trips it. The spring shows some wear on it from hitting the metal I think I should file it down I tried moving it to the side but there's not enough room. Thanks for all the tips and telling me to check all these things out otherwise I'd never came across this I really hope this is it. Thanks alot for the help Gary