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« on: May 21, 2013, 08:15:46 PM »

Where do I get a new proximity switch for the above. I have checked this with a flashlight and it works. I believe the other side of the switch is bad. Is there any way to bypass? When I check input I get a 1 when open and it changes from 0 to 1 constantly when closed and realignment did not work. This leaves me with a coin lock out 1,2,3 so I cannot play the game. Any help would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 05:59:56 AM »

You checked it with a flashlight?   Scratch Head

Regardless, from what you've posted, it sounds like your door optics are indeed working correctly and do not need to be replaced.  On the self-test inputs screen, the door should show a steady "1" when it is open, and should flicker between 1 and 0 when it's closed.

"coin lock out 1,2,3" isn't a PE+ error message, so to give you further help we'll need to know what the issue is that you're having with the machine, and the exact error message on the screen, please.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 09:45:35 PM »

You are correct I get a one when open and it flicker 1 / 0 when closed. The machine will not accecpt coins or bills. I have changed out the coin comparator and the bill validator is red and lets me put bills in and they out. In test mode or test input screen I show a 1 for A, B, and C coin detectors, door open (because when testing it is). Any thing else to check or try.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 10:20:17 PM »

When you drop a coin in where does it go, to the tray or the hopper ??
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 11:26:57 PM »

The tray. Change out hopper, bill validated, and coin acceptor a few minutes ago no change but they work with another machine. Do I need to due a ram clear. It was working till my wife put an old bill in it. Thanks for the help. I am stuck.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 11:43:26 PM »

NO  give your Wife the clear chip and have her hid it from you.

Let's eliminate one thing at a time. Pull the coin comparator and block open the rake on the back side of it and see what happens.
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2013, 12:04:26 AM »

Done no change in machine. Wife has Ram chip.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 12:17:25 AM »

Right below the coin comparator you will see the coin optic board ( Green ) on that board there is a very, very small white button. Press that button a few times and see if the machine will play one hand with the main door open
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2013, 12:36:19 AM »

Yes I could play one hand.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2013, 12:51:23 AM »

What does that tell us. yep coin optics are bad or just dirty. First thing I would do is clean them. I've read all about usng a Q tip and with the comparator removed reach down the coin path and clean the optics.  Me I just take one all apart and clean it good.  Maybe cleaning will fix the problem and maybe it won't. Don't forget to take what ever you blocked the rake open, out.

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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 12:54:44 AM »

I just thought of something, did you recently change this machine from a dollar to a quarter/nickel  ?? Did the machine ever except coins ??
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2013, 02:10:11 AM »

This machine has always taken quarters. I did try tokens but they jammed in the payout run so I just used quarters.  took the coin acceptor apart and cleaned with a q tip and dry air. No change when I put the machine back together. I tried another coin acceptor same problem on this machine other machine works fine, also quarter but a cat and dog machine. I have four IGT and one Bally.
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2013, 02:40:09 AM »

Kirk  I don't think it's the coin comparator. I think your problem is in the coin optics that are located below the comparator.  If you feel like it, try switching the optics with another machine, so long as the other machine is a S+ or a PE/PE+ Been a long time since I did one but I think there are only 4 screws and one plug.
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2013, 04:03:49 AM »

I changed out the entire coin system the wiring plugs into a black loose base. I took the complete coin in mech and put it into the cats and dog machine and it worked fine there. The multi poker shows no change. I have data Prom: XM00007P, Game Prom: XMP000006, Charator CG2233 if that helps. When I test the coin comparator I do get the green light. The rake also works when tested. I do show a 1 in coin diverter
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2013, 04:34:40 AM »

It played one game using the pseudo coin button on the coin optics, your gonna have to convince me something is wrong with the software.

This is a slant top isn't it, That complete coin handling just lifts out from one plug.  Any chance there may be a broken wire from the machine to that plug ?? Or take a good look at the pins and see if one of them is bent.
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2013, 04:44:50 AM »

I don't understand why you guys are suspecting that there's a problem with the optics?  KirknDee has stated that the A, B, and C optics all show "1" in the Self Test Inputs screen (which indicates normal, working behavior).  He also stated that all coins are being rejected to the tray.  That implies to me that the coin comparator is the issue here, and likely just needs to be adjusted to be less likely to reject coins.  Please follow these two steps:

- Remove and re-insert the sample coin in the comparator.  Make sure it's seating properly -- use your other machines as a reference as to how the coin should be sitting in the comparator.

- Adjust the sensitivity of the comparator to make it less likely to reject coins.  Here's a post on how to do that.


For the bill validator, since you said it's enabled and trying to accept a bill, please use ONLY a $1 bill in good condition, face up, while troubleshooting.
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2013, 05:50:38 AM »

I have one and have noticed that when i get the error i have to open and then close the hatch (door) to clear the error

also i have noticed that you can up the door in test mode (first push of test switch) and close the door and see if the settings still show that all the optics are still working i have had them all set at 1's and when i closed the (door) they went to 0's 

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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2013, 06:48:40 AM »

I have one and have noticed that when i get the error i have to open and then close the hatch (door) to clear the error

also i have noticed that you can up the door in test mode (first push of test switch) and close the door and see if the settings still show that all the optics are still working i have had them all set at 1's and when i closed the (door) they went to 0's 

For the record, you had a different issue with your machine (a Coin-in Timeout error was appearing on the screen).  KirknDee hasn't indicated that there's any kind of error message, just that it's rejecting all coins.   propeller
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2013, 10:32:56 AM »

I stand corrected

I have had all ones and then the coins still wouldn't accept had to tightin the screws on the black connector so it would not move and it works perfect now might check

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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2013, 01:41:31 PM »

I cleaned out the male and female plugs last night. I will test with a VOM this morning. I will also take some pictures. The thing that gets me is I changed out the hopper and coin Assembly completely and they work just fine in my Cat and Dog machine. Is the wire diagrams about the same as a IGT S-Plus. I will sent where everything is when going thru the test mode to see if you see anything wrong. This machine was working fine until my wife tried to put an old $ 20.00 bill in it. I cleaned the Bill validator and tested it in another machine once it was clean. Could she have messed up the transport assembly? I know she was in there getting her money back but I do not know what she did. Thanks for all the help folks. I run ships for a living Chief Engineer so I don't work on many slots.
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2013, 01:49:53 PM »

Look at this thread. reply #23      http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4226.msg8620#msg8620
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2013, 02:02:54 PM »

Here are the first pictures. Hope they come out ok.


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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2013, 02:27:45 PM »

All wire check out. I did find that the solid Orange  ( front row left) and Purple (Left side, third row and last row used) have wiring to plug at coin harness female connection but none on the coin unit it self.


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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2013, 04:31:33 PM »

I show a 1 in the coin out does that mean anything?
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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2013, 04:34:37 PM »

I show a 1 in the coin out does that mean anything?


It means that your coin out optic is working properly.

Have you done what I asked you to do in Reply #15 above?
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