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Title: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 05, 2010, 10:05:58 PM I have the Bally Gamemaker and am trying to change the denomination. I have the clear ram chip installed and the menu is showing. How do I get the menu to move down ? if is currently setting on the Current Jurisdiction "Not selected" . Now don't know where to go from here.
I want to change the denomination from .25 to .05 and change a couple of the games. Triple Trouble from 1 coin per line to max of 5 coins per line. (max 25 coins) Prince of Persia from a max of 180 coins to 90 coins (10 coins per line) Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 05, 2010, 11:05:00 PM PRESS START BUTTON (Bet 5 credits) TO CHANGE SELECTION
TURN KEY SWITCH TO LOCK A SELECTION It should say this on the screen. Did you switch dip 7 and 8 for this? Thanks, Wayne Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 05, 2010, 11:11:53 PM Yes I did move the SW1 (7-8) switches toward the back of the board. I can change the Current jurisdiction from Not selected, but cannot get it to move to the next selection with changing Curren jurisdiction. I have pressed the "Start" button and that does change the selections but none of the selections need to be changed. All I want to do is change the denomination and a couple of the games.
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 05, 2010, 11:13:56 PM Wayne,
I'm assuming "Turn Key Switch" is the Jackpot reset. Is that correct ? (it only turns clockwise) Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 05, 2010, 11:16:19 PM yes the jackpot reset switch, this keyswitch normally turns 1/4 turn clockwise. It's just like pressing a switch for each turn. once you turn it, you can do the next setting.
Thanks, Wayne Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 05, 2010, 11:19:16 PM What if I don't want to change any of these settings ? All I need to do is change the denomination from .25 to .05. And I want to change a couple of the games Max coins input.
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 05, 2010, 11:20:41 PM the settings can't be "none" and need to be set to something. If the setting is ok, then just turn the key to go to the next.
Thanks, Wayne Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 05, 2010, 11:24:48 PM Currently the first selection is "Jurisdiction: Not Selected". If I use the "start" button it does change it but I dont know what is correct so was wanting to leave it as it was originally. Since I don't know what any of these parameters should be I did not want to change them. There are 16 setting and I dont know what is the correct value for any of them.
Just turning the Jackpot key does not move me to another selection or allow me to go to the next selection. Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 05, 2010, 11:25:43 PM set it to one.
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 05, 2010, 11:26:51 PM type in the items and I'll post the settings. You need to say if it is a coinless machine? what type of BV...
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 05, 2010, 11:28:23 PM OK... Set to one and turned keyswitch. Now it says Primary host: Not selected. What now ?
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 05, 2010, 11:31:04 PM CURRENT JURISDICTION: one
PRIMARY HOST: None SECONDARY HOST: None SAS VERSION: none CHASSIS TYPE: upright or slant???? COIN ACCEPTOR: self explanitory BILL ACCEPTOR: probably wba if it's a V7200 where the cash can comes out the front, if it comes out the side(V7000), dbv PRINTER TYPEnone HOPPER TYPE: ... DOOR TYPE: If it is a V7200 it would be pulsed optic DOUBLE DOWN: up to you TOURNAMENT: OFF EFT: DISABLE SECONDARY DEVICE: NONE RESIDUAL CREDIT MODE: play off WIN EVALUATION PREFERENCE: legacy these are all from rough memory.... Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 05, 2010, 11:31:49 PM you can either phone me or p.m. me your number, it would be easier over the phone.
W Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 05, 2010, 11:40:06 PM OK here goes....
Jursidiction: Not selected Primary Host: Not selected Secondary Host: Not selected SAS Version: Not selected Chassis type: Not selected Coin accepter: Not selected Bill Accepter: Not selected Printer type: None Hopper Type: Coin Door type: Not selected Double Down: Not selected Tournament: Not selected EFT: Disabled Secondary Device: Not selected Residual Credit: Not selected Win Evaluation: Not selected Coin comparitor is a CC62D Bill Validator is a DBV-145-SG Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: StatFreak on February 06, 2010, 12:45:11 AM Slotsavegas, these settings are reset every time that you do a clear. You are not seeing the settings that you had previously, so the concept of "leaving them the way they are" does not apply. You must go through the list and set them again, as you will need to do each time that you clear the machine (which you will do when you want to change games down the road).
Follow a69mopar's settings. Here they are again with a couple of notes that I've added in bold: CURRENT JURISDICTION: one PRIMARY HOST: None SECONDARY HOST: None SAS VERSION: none CHASSIS TYPE: upright or slant???? COIN ACCEPTOR: self explanitory (For the CC16D, the manual states that you should select the "COIN ACCEPTOR AND COD BOARD" option.) BILL ACCEPTOR: probably wba if it's a V7200 where the cash can comes out the front, if it comes out the side(V7000), dbv (Actually, it will probably read "JCM DBV") PRINTER TYPE none HOPPER TYPE: ... DOOR TYPE: If it is a V7200 it would be pulsed optic (If it's a V7000, set it to "Mechanical") DOUBLE DOWN: up to you (I advise you to set this to ON. That way, you can still turn DD on and off in the options menus for each game without doing another reset.) TOURNAMENT: OFF (Actually, it doesn't matter, because ON won't do anything unless you have tournament chips installed.) EFT: DISABLE SECONDARY DEVICE: NONE RESIDUAL CREDIT MODE: play off (Actually, here are the options from the manual. These options will only apply if you have Mains that allow tokenization and if you have set your machine up that way.) <ADD> I prefer "Gamble or Attendant Pay" to give me all options, but it's a matter of personal preference. Quote Residual Credit Mode If a machine is configured so that one coin registers multiple credits (tokenization), it is possible to have credits remaining after a cashout. The selections for RESIDUAL CREDIT MODE refer to the disposition of the extra credits. The choices are NO GAMBLE AND NO ATTEN. PAY, ATTEN. PAY ONLY, GAMBLE ONLY, and GAMBLE OR ATTEN. PAY. • The NO GAMBLE AND NO ATTENDANT PAY setting forces a Player to continue playing until either the remaining credits equal zero; or they equal the exact value of a coin from the hopper. • ATTENDANT PAY ONLY requires an Attendant to remove the remaining credits from the machine by turning the Audit key switch and paying the Player. • GAMBLE ONLY enables a post game where all residual credits are wagered on a win-lose outcome. A win results in a coin from the hopper. A loss zeros the remaining credits. A Player’s chance of winning a coin is proportional to the residual credits wagered: If a credit is 1/10th of a hopper coin, gambling one credit offers a Player a one-in-ten or 10% chance of receiving a coin. However, if nine residual credits are left, the Player has a 90% chance of receiving a coin for the residual credits. • GAMBLE OR ATTENDANT PAY provides the Player with all options for resolving residual credits. WIN EVALUATION PREFERENCE: legacy these are all from rough memory.... Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 06, 2010, 01:09:58 AM Stat, his game is a V7000(mechanical) with a cc62 (coin acceptor only) and a JCM DBV(front mount). The double down option is set to on, and play off= Gamble. I know he put cc16, but it was a cc62.
Barry, If you have a chance, post a pic. Thanks, Wayne Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 06, 2010, 01:26:29 AM OK,
Thanks to Wayne giving me a call I was able to get the machine denomination set to .05 rather than the .25 it was originally. I have played it and evrything seems to be working properly. When Wayne talked me through this I did notice that at one time it asked me if my game play denomination was .20 or .25 After tinkering with it a few more times to try and adjust the number of coins on the individual games ( which I never figured out) I now have only one choice for denomination. I think I must be able to set it up for at least two denominations ( .05 or .25 ) but I dont know how to go about that now. I don't have enough time to work on this tonight, so will check back in a couple of days to see if any of you can help me set it back up to accept multi-denominations, and how to change the "Triple Trouble" game from 1 coin per line to a bet of 1-5 coins per line. and change the "Prince of Persia" game from a max of 20 coins per line to a max of 10 coins per line. Thanks so much for all the help. I will get some pictures downloaded in a couple of days. Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: a69mopar on February 06, 2010, 01:29:08 AM Hi Barry,
I will likely do a video for this next week sometime and upload it to youtube. I'm glad you got it going. Thanks, Wayne Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 11, 2010, 06:14:37 PM OK, Found out I still have a couple of problems I am hoping you all can help with.
I changed out the "Quarter" that was in the coin comparitor with a "Nickel" (it is in fact a CC62D) It is configured with the coin mechanisim on the left and a coin comparitor CC62D mounted to the right. I have a picture, but do not know how to upload it here. About 50% of the time I drop a nickel in the coin slot it falls straight through to the hopper without error, or registering a credit. About 25% of the time it registers one credit and the remaining 25% of the times it errors with a "Reverse Coin" error. Anybody know what I need to do to correct this ? And finally...... I thought I had a .05 cent label but after changing out everything I found that the only ones I had are for IGT slot machines and so will not fit the smaller Bally 1 1/2" high by 2 1/2" wide. If anyone happens to have a spare and is willing to part with it, let me know. Thanks. P.S. Found how to attach the photos... See attachments Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: kenokarz on February 11, 2010, 07:58:38 PM you need to adjust the slide at the bottom of you coin mech just wide enough for the coin to go in to it , loosen the small nut ,the bottom will adjust
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: slotsavegas on February 11, 2010, 08:12:32 PM Thanks kenokarz.
I loosened the nut and slid the bar to just slightly larger than a nickel and it is accepting nickels without failure now. Really appreciate being on this site and having such a wealth of knowledge. Anyone have a 5 cent label I can get hold of ??? Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: StatFreak on February 12, 2010, 01:12:01 PM you need to adjust the slide at the bottom of you coin mech just wide enough for the coin to go in to it , loosen the small nut ,the bottom will adjust :212- I had the same issue and this was the problem. It's odd that the adjustment is so critical, considering that the optic is in the center of the coin's path, but the opening has to be as tight as possible without actually restricting the coin for it to work properly.<PS>Oops. I didn't see that you had already responded to kenokarz's suggestion. :96- Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: tacman on February 12, 2010, 06:46:07 PM Here's a nickle label I knocked out of Photoshop with the dimensions you gave. Print it out on glossy paper, trim it if need be and attach to the back of the glass with clear tape.
Dan (tacman) Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: StatFreak on February 12, 2010, 09:57:37 PM Tacman, would you happen to have a 25¢ version? It's not something that I need personally, but it would be nice to add to our collective library of sticker images.
Thanks for posting the 5¢ for slotsavegas. :3- Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: tacman on February 12, 2010, 10:43:45 PM Ask, and ye shall receive! Denom labels for 1 cent, 25 cent, 50 cent and 1 dollar have been uplaoded to the Submit New File area. :88- These are in a 3" X 2" format, so minor trimming for install to the glass. Enjoy!! :89-
Dan (tacman) Figured I would put them here as well. Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: tacman on February 12, 2010, 11:32:48 PM The other two
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: reho33 on February 13, 2010, 12:28:01 AM Ok here's the rub :-) I printed out a "Play 3 Coins" legend on paper to get the proper sizing. But the label inside the reel glass has a thick white plastic that a "transparent" legend is mounted to so that the light can illuminate it properly. So I went to buy some transparencies that will accept ink-jet ink but to my suprise they cost 40 dollars for 25 8.5X 11 sheets! I think I am going to bum a few off the secy's at work. But Staples said that they would do it on 1 sheet from a digital file for 2.50. But it can't violate copyright laws so don't know if it's legal.
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: tacman on February 13, 2010, 12:42:45 AM reho, I have printed out the "Play X Coins" label and the Denom labels on glossy photo paper, cut to size and then attach with a clear tape from the back side of the glass. They come out great and illuminate fine. I suggest you try that first.
Dan (tacman) Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: reho33 on February 13, 2010, 12:45:49 AM OK, glossy photo paper. I will try that, thanks. Do you think that spray adhesive would work also?
Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: tacman on February 13, 2010, 12:57:11 AM I wouldn't use any adhesive on the label. It may distort the printing and who knows what you may have to do to remove it at a later date. If you have to, OEM labels on plastic are available on Ebay.
Dan (tacman) Title: Re: Bally Gamemaker HELP !!! Post by: StatFreak on February 13, 2010, 02:19:58 AM Ask, and ye shall receive! Denom labels for 1 cent, 25 cent, 50 cent and 1 dollar have been uplaoded to the Submit New File area. :88- These are in a 3" X 2" format, so minor trimming for install to the glass. Enjoy!! :89- Dan (tacman) Figured I would put them here as well. Thanks again Dan. :88- |