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« on: July 28, 2010, 11:32:26 PM »
I have 2 slot machines a Black Gold, and a Wild Party.Both don't come close to what the payout on the glass is,is there a way to adjust the payout ??
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 11:38:01 PM »
Usually when this sort of thing occurs the reel strips are misaligned.
It could also be that the chips installed in the system don't match the glass / strips but this is less likely.

How long have you had the games ?
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 12:03:48 AM »
I justed pick them up a couple weeks ago.How do you adjust the reel strips,sorry i'm not at this.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 12:17:19 AM »
The strips have little notches in them.
The reel baskets have little nubs that the strip notches go into.

The reel assemblies have a small thumb bolt that can
be loosened to adjust the height of the reel assembly.
However, that only moves about a 1/4" up or down I believe.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 12:25:13 AM »
I would make sure the machine(s) have the right game eprom first. Maybe they are switched?
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 12:31:14 AM »
Quote from: uniman on July 29, 2010, 12:25:13 AM
I would make sure the machine(s) have the right game eprom first. Maybe they are switched?

That could very well be a possibility.
Maybe the Black Gold MPU is in the Wild Party & vice versa?
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 07:39:35 AM »
Is there somewhere you can buy the game eproms ??
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 11:52:25 AM »
What personality chips are in the U28 and U43 sockets now?
Also, what are the order of your strip symbols from top to bottom on all 3?
It may be  just a matter of your strips in the wrong notch?
Most vendors have these eproms.
They are located on the top of the home page.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 01:08:14 PM »
This is not the best way but it might help the cause.

The first thing to check is do the symbols on the reel strips match the theme..... I have seen people put just any reel strip on a machine just to say "parts complete, working" and ship it out the door. If these don't match then we need to go through and determine what chips, what glass, what strips and get you matched up properly.

Assuming they match - my next quick test is to check the alignment of the reel strip.

Start with a empty coin tray.
Play the game until you win something.
Compare what the winning combo is to what is payed out.

For instance if you get 6 credits / coins for 2 bars and a 7 this is NOT a winning combination. Subsequently I suspect (one) of your reel strips is wrongly placed.
As per Bunker suggested, turn off the machine (reels will then go slack and be easy to move) remove the offending reel strip (find the seam and they just pop off).
There might be more than one mis-aligned.....
When you look at the strip there will be a knotch someplace. Using your fingernail put it in the crease of the plastic reel and turn until you feel the little nub.
Align the knotch over the nub and fit the reel strip back on.
When you turn on the power and close the door the reels will spin back to their orginal position. Is this now a winning combination with the correct pay out....

If the above hasn't solved it please report back your chip numbers, and theme (pictures are always good too). We will keep pounding this until we get a resolution.
We were all new at one point so no harm in asking questions..... no one is going to flame you for being inexperienced with this stuff......they save that for me.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 05:24:50 PM »
On a Bally 5500 there are two notch's on each reel strips. notch closest to the end of strip is for a upright machine, other notch is for slant top machine. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2010, 06:13:07 PM »
I only see one notch and all 3 reels are lined up.U18 and U20 have the number E598111x-05.Double bars is supposed to pay 25 but,only pays 5.

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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 02:39:17 AM »
what are the symbols below the wilds shown in the pic?  are they single bars?  There should be 2 sets of notches as Buzz said, unless they are custom made strips.  How far from the end of your strip is the notch you have it aligned by?

I'll look for your U18 and U20 (personality chips) numbers.

Thanks,
Wayne
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2010, 02:40:34 AM »
Stars and Bars   6450   E598111X-05   SAB-5005   14.52      89.18   10000   3CM

Please post pics of the entire paytable and machine.

Thanks,
Wayne
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2010, 02:46:20 AM »
I'm pretty sure you have the wrong personality chips.  I'll wait for the pics to be sure.  have you had any 2 credit pays?  does the paytable show any 2 credit pays?

Thanks,
Wayne
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2010, 12:31:54 PM »
I have had 2 credits payouts.The symbol below is single bar.

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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2010, 08:35:30 AM »
Quote from: Sgt.Rocks on July 30, 2010, 12:31:54 PM
I have had 2 credits payouts.The symbol below is single bar.
you definitely have incorrect personality chips.  I believe your machine is a custom theme cloned from another for a casino.  We just have to match your paytable to the one it was cloned from.

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2010, 04:59:33 PM »
Found someone selling the kit,have to call back in the morning to see if they have the chips.

http://www.worldwide-gaming.com/s/Wild-Party-Bally-Full-Glass-Kit.html
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2010, 11:21:36 PM »
I can Help you out!I have Them... I'll send you the u-18 and 20 chips.. John

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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2010, 11:26:03 PM »
.thank you
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2010, 11:29:16 PM »
That Great , PM me your address , and they will be on there way! applause
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2010, 11:35:03 PM »
Pm sent.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2010, 11:39:52 PM »
same day delivery

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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2010, 11:42:17 PM »
Thanks alot,I can't thank you enough. Clap
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2010, 09:42:27 PM »
The machine works great. thank you John
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2010, 10:23:34 PM »
You Are More Then Welcome . Hail I'm Glade that those I sent you worked for you... I did have a feeling that your chips were wrong! ENJOY Clap, John

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