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« on: April 04, 2009, 02:42:50 AM »

Looking over this recent acquisition(by my neighbor) we noticed this ID tag.  We know it’s a Bally machine so why the IGT tag also?   Scratch Head


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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 03:04:58 AM »

The two companies were actually in cahoots with each other until the "BIG FALLOUT"... Tongue Out
Bally didn't like the way IGT put their big blue metal tags partially covered over the little black Bally tags?
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 07:35:14 AM »

IGT used to take anything in trade - then refurbish and resell - hence the igt tag.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 07:19:56 PM »

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IGT used to take anything in trade - then refurbish and resell - hence the igt tag.
As demonstrated by the 1981 date on the Bally tag, and 1988 on the IGT.

I'm pretty sure the companies were not friendly in 1988. That was the period of IGT's most aggressive rise and they were driving Bally bankrupt. They were probably refurbishing machines mainly to deny Bally new sales.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2009, 11:58:19 PM »

Thanks & happy karma to all.  What do you think of my neighbors machine?  $50 bucks.  I think his wife is less than happy with me since introducing him to the joys of slot machine refurb.  We still have to fix the hopper controll board, bad triac I think.  Its a cool machine, cant wait to see the mechanical digital display fire up.  I hope we don't have to wait for a jack-pot to get an output from it.  Any ideas?  Scratch Head
Question- both triacs were shorted but the fuse didn't blow.  That shouldn't happen.  lightning bolt That fuse should have popped when the power switch was flipped on by the looks of the E-1000 schematic.  When I replace those two triacs I think I'll cut open the factory installed jumper in the S-1 position in case the disable signal is stuck high from the MPU.  Any ideas or advice on that circuit?
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 12:59:50 AM »

$50 was a steal, even with the cracked glass.

I can't quite make out the display technology. Is it mechanical seven-segment? Whatever it is, it's very unusual. There's an active collectors community for old obsolete displays - I'd hazard a guess that they're worth considerably more than he paid for the slot.



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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 04:21:26 AM »

It lives again  Tongue Out  The digits are a progressive, its so cool.   propeller propeller propeller


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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 05:40:37 AM »

Mechanical seven segment displays, very cool! Do they stay when the power goes off, or do they reset to blank?

I would not be very pleased to win 14 cents for three triple bars  Duh!  There must be a keyswitch to set up the jackpot reset value.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 08:09:20 AM »

What a grand old machine. applause propeller propeller
Even with the crack in the glass it looks classy.
I'm pretty sure that I've seen that type of digital display before in a Bally EM in a slot shop that sold mostly EM machines back in 1995.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 01:48:37 PM »

I think I've seen those displays in old pinball machines?
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 02:20:01 PM »

Arn't they a florescent or similar gas tube... in a 7 segment display.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2009, 06:22:05 PM »

They remind me of the old "digital" alarm clocks from the 70's.  These ones are 7-segments, but electromechanical.  The individuals segments of the digits are flipped into view by small solenoids I think.  We found that after killing power the digits remain visible.  When power is reapplied the "counting" resumes from the last point.  We now have the jackpot all the way up to $1.23   arrow arrow

Ya know, the glass in this machine IS in great shape.  That "crack" must be a reflection from something in the background. no
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