Converting a 3 reel s2000 to a 5 reel s2000 led

[RICKF]

HI

I have a new project.  To convert a s2000 3 reel machine to a 5 reel machine.  So far I have picked up a igt s2000 led Button deck w/harness and a 9 line credit display.

I know I need a 5 reel deck with harness.  But is there anything else i need besides a 5 reel backlit controller card?

Thanks

RICKF

[CVslots]

The 5 reelers use different I/O cards (or at least I'm pretty sure they do, I'm still   so not at 100% brain function yet).

You may want to check out some game kits, or even buy one if there's one in particular you are interested in. The reason is there are 2 reel widths (2.25" and 2.5" approx). I know there are a few games that were made with both size strips, but not all were. Most are 2.25" I believe. I just don't want you to be limited in choosing a game, as 5 reel kits are not all that plentiful.  We have a few right now, and it seems they are always the opposite size strips/reels than what we want them to be.

Roslyn

[cowboygames]

Cvslots is correct, you'll need to make sure your game kit fits your reels. Older games used narrower strips while newer games were wider, but generally used LED backlit reels. I did once take a set apart and narrow the reels for a Cleopatra game though. As far as the IO cards on the door, the 5 button deck uses a single 7801 card while the 10 button deck uses a pair of 7802 cards. Make sure you get a complete kit for this part of the conversion

[CVslots]

Thanks for confirming Cowboy. I ID the I/O cards by the plastic guard they have over the board, but didn't know the numbers without going downstairs and looking. 

Why in the heck would IGT would make the same game in 2 sizes??? Seems ridiculous, but I know Triple Butterfly 7s is available in both sizes.  Learned that one the hard way...Was it just for LED? A later production run? I think I have some wide reels that are not LED? I could be wrong though, but I just swapped kits in it, and I'm pretty sure they were incandescent.  I may have to check again or have another  .

Roslyn

[cowboygames]

"Generally" LED, not always. The narrow ones u   se a board with LED displays to the right of the reels to indicate lines played and coins per line. The wide ones are generally found on games with bonus features and video screens so lines played is displayed different and so is coins per line. Are there exceptions? Probably and we'll maybe here about them as more people read this post, but the general rules still hold true

[Buzz]

I have a Mata Hari 5 reel, 10 button deck that uses both IO's 7801 and 7802. Also have a Triple Dollar 3 reel 10 button that uses two 7802 IO's.  I won't bet the farm on this statement but I think the reason the Triple Dollar has (2) 7802 is because it also has a 9 line display in the reel glass.

[RICKF]

I have seen some Door/Cabinet I/I cards being marketed as enhanced!  They don't give a product number.  Iam a little leary about getting them without knowing if they would be the correct ones or not.


Any idea's on the if they are.

Thanks

RickF

[CVslots]

I don't think there the same, so hold off buying those. I know the ones you're talking about, as I have them as well. I can check to be sure, but 99% sure they are not the ones you need.

[rickhunter]

Revisiting this thread.  If you want to convert from 5 reel to 3 reel with just the 5 button player panel, do I have to remove the 7802's and put a single 7801, or can I just leave both 7802's on the machine? Come to think of it, I don't see the 7801 or the 7802 number on any of my I/O cards.  I have 3, two on the door and 1 next to the mpu board tray.

[cowboygames]

Look on the circuit board for the number, not the metal case it's screwed to. For a five button setup you'll need a complete player panel with harness all the way back to the motherboard and a 7801 IO card. You can try the 7802, but no guarantees

[rickhunter]

So my machine right now has a pair of 7802's  It's a 5 reel machine.  Where does the 7801 go, on the outside part of the door or the inside part of the door?

[cowboygames]

Your new button deck harness should come with a plug and maybe holder for the IO card. Holders are the same for both types so it's not critical. If there are any dealer/members near where you live it would be less frustrating and much easier to swap complete doors. Depends on price and ability I suppose

[rickhunter]

This morning I took a closer look.  I have a 7801 controlling the LED 9 payline indicator (the ones that says how many coins bet per line), and a 7802 running the button panel.  I am assuming I would replace the 7802 with another 7801 to drive the 5 button  player panel and just leave the 7801 driving the payline indicator, or just remove that one altogether.

[cowboygames]

If you convert from 5 reel to 3 reel isn't your 9 line display coin bye bye? Or does your 3 reel game use that? The 3 reel,5button decks I've seen only play up to 5 lines, 1 coin per line and only use 1 IO card

[rickhunter]

For most games, the display will go away, but I have seen 3 reel 9 line titles with multiple coins per line bet.

[cowboygames]

But those all have a 10 button deck. If you're converting to a 5 button then that display goes and the new door wiring harness uses just one IO card. If the game pictured or a similar setup may be in your future then save all your old equipment for the change

[Neonkiss]

Rick, In your example picture, you would keep the harness, button deck and the three I/O cards. Just need to change the glass and SB chip

[cowboygames]

Neon, he stated in his first post that the 3 reel he is converting to uses a five button deck, so he's gonna have to change the whole panel

[Neonkiss]

OK cowboy, I was just going by the picture posted.
Speaking of the picture posted, it there something wrong with the photo?
I checked my SB files and only see that game in a 2CM and 3CM. That would not explain the 9 line glass?  
I do see a three reel 9 line theme game, but it has a bonus reel.
I'm looking at the top award and does it show 4 symbols? Too small for me to read.
Or is the award glass for a 5 line?

[Buzz]

Triple Double Stars    3R 9L 45C   SB100955
                             3R 9L 90C  SB100956
                             3R 9L 180C SB100957
                             3R 9L 9C    SB101025

[Neonkiss]

Thanks Buzz,
My list was missing all of those. I'll update them now.

[cowboygames]

No biggie Neon, he was just responding to my post about there not being any 9 line 3 reel themes. I should have clarified about a 5 button deck. I think most of their popular themes came out eventually in penny slots with 10 button decks and 9 or more lines

[Buzz]

Neon  I' m sure you already know this but those SBs also go into a     Triple Double Butterfly 7s
                                                                                              Triple Double Lucky 7s
                                                                                              Triple Double Red Hot 7s

[Neonkiss]

Neon  I' m sure you already know this but those SBs also go into a     Triple Double Butterfly 7s
                                                                                              Triple Double Lucky 7s
                                                                                              Triple Double Red Hot 7s

I did know they were clone games.
My list either had those SB number blank or skipped them all together.