Help with S2000 vision sound

[Jake777]

Hi All
  Haven't posted in some time but have been in the background trying to learn new things from the site.  Anyway I got a new toy, a S2000 vision, and don't know a thing about them, I've worked through E series and know enough to be dangerous with S+'s but this is new frontier to me now, any help would sure help. I don't have any sound when the machine wins and places credits or when the bill acceptor places credits I think it is whats called rollup tones. I have pressed the white test button and have gotten to the menues, scrolled to the sound option but do not see any options other than machine base sound or the jackpot bell. Is their a procedure to access these options, it seems that I have all the other sounds. I have posted a pic of the menues that are displayed on the LCD. Thanks again.

[cowboygames]

I beleive you may have to go to that setups menu in the first row and there'll be lcd setups in there with an option for lcd volume control. On a lot of vision machines the sounds are generated from the top box lcd controller and thus are adjusted from within that menu. Hope this helps.

[Jake777]

Hi, Thanks for the reply, I tried your suggestion and all it let me do is raise the volume of the machine.  What I didn't mention in the first post is when I press the "Bet One Credit" button I will get the "donk,donk" sound, but when I press the "Max Bet" button I don't have the sound, I just hear a faint tic,tic,tic, along with the above mentioned problems. I did think I heard the sounds once on the Max Bet button, Does the flash cards on the lcd contain the sounds?

[Foster]

It is my understanding that the credit sounds that occur are different between the Bet one credit and Max bet.
I think that is by design, and each vision theme may be configured differently

They are  that way on my S2000 as well.
On mine bet one sound is a soft click or tic like sound and the max bet is a very short melody sound that is same for each credit.

The sounds can even be different as you drop coins each coin in as I and a couple of other members have discovered depending on how the machine is configured concerning coin acceptance.

I think a someone on here discovered that a Multi Media Light Board and.or DSV Sound Simm can be installed in the Computer in the top box, but I am not totally sure,

[Jake777]

Thanks Foster
 I guess what I am asking is does the max button sounds have a tone or tones this machine does not, and when a win is registered to credits it has no sound  of tones along with when bills are accepted into the BV. Do you think the machine is configured this way for what Casion it was in. I will check for loose connection as I think I have heard a faint tone from now and then when the Max Bet button has beed pushed. The machine does have tones when regestering credits after a bonus round, this is why I ask. Again Thanks for any help.

[Foster]

you could have a loosed connection then
The Sound from the MPU (processore board in the bottom) feeds sound to the vision computer in the top box then the sound goes to the speaker.
So check the harnesses (it is a 2 wire harness coming from left rear of top box to a 2 pin Molex Micro-Fit Jr. on the botttom edge of the top box computer.
Hint wires are White with stripe and Green with stripe, the stripe could be be blue or purple. Yes the stripe color is the same on both wires.
Majority of the connectors in the S2ooo/vsion are Molex Micro-Fit Jr.

[Jake777]

Thanks again for the suggestions, I'm working some night shifts, so I have had limited time to take a look at the machine. I got the top glass out this morning, thats about all. I will post back with my findings.

[Jake777]

Well got some time off and looked into your suggestions, no luck on the above mention sounds, did manage to break the max bet button when I was replacing a bulb. I switched it out with my S+, now have to purchase another. While playing I sometimes will here a dong dong when the max bet button is pushed, sounds same as when bet one credit button, but only two and this is a 3c and very sporatic. Checked cash out sounds and I have that. You mentiones that some of the sounds are generated from the top box, I'm new to 2000's. I see flash cards, can I remove them and re=seat them without causing any troubles, (with the machine off of course)? Also noticed another member posted awhile back with this same machine theme. I will PM and see if the have the sounds I'm looking for when they play their machine. Any other suggestions I'm open.

[Foster]

If you know enough about the machine to navigate through the menus go into 4 I/O and then find sound tests.

I wonder if the top computer is cutting off sounds as well.
I suspect when you enter menu they may show up on the LCD as well but not 100% on that.
it might let even test the sounds that are part of the top box computer

Another thing to try is to unplug the sound input at the computer and plug it into the left speaker if it will reach. I think it will reach.
and see if the sounds drop out, note you will only hear the top computer from the right speaker and the mpu form left speaker..

[tollguy316]

Jake 777  .... what Vision game did you get ?  Thanks, Bill

[Jake777]

Thanks, I got to the menus I think and I tested the sounds, they all played. I enclosed a pic of the menu to verify if this is what you were refering to. I did not do the test by unplugging the wire and plugging it into the left speaker since all the sounds tested and played, should I? The game is a Cash Advance.

[Jake777]

Opps I din't see the menu pic was added

[Foster]

It could be the reel spin sound overrides the coin sounds when you use the max bet as well.

[Jake777]

You lost me on that one, I don't understand

[stayouttadabunker]

It could be the reel spin sound overrides the coin sounds when you use the max bet as well.

You lost me on that one, I don't understand

I think Foster meant that the volume of the reel spin sounds is so high that
you cannot hear the "ding, dong" sounds of the Max bet button?
I've always thought though, ( trying to remember offhand  ) that the "ding,dong" Max bet button sounds
preceded   the reel spin sounds?

By the way, I was "the guy" that found out that you can install the optional MMLBII board
in onto the topbox Vision computer MPU board with the DSV SIMM sound card.
I never got it to work though because no one was able to tell me what jumper I needed
to move to enable the sounds for the MMLBII board.
As I do NOT have a spare Vision topbox computer, I didn't want to take that chance of burning it out.
However, although the headers on that MPU, they may not
be enabled as a "port" for communications with an MMLBII ?
Maybe they are for the MMLB1 ?
The version that uses eprom chips instead of DSV SIMM cards?
I will dig in deeper into that question later on.

There are a few topbox computers on the open market going for pretty cheap
so I may pick up a spare soon to use as a Kamikaze Test Pilot.
I was not successful with that last sound project although I may attack it this fall
when I plan to throw my Munsters Vision kit back in before Halloween!...lol
I did discover that certain SB Vision chips play just about any DSV SIMM card sounds though!
That was pretty fun to try!

During my last testing run with the Vision topbox computers - I discovered some new things that
I could try when I hooked up my keyboard to it... 

[stayouttadabunker]

You said you did have the "ding,dong" sound sometimes  in the past right?
Have you've changed this game or chips at all??

If not, did you get a chance to see if any speakers wires could be broken?
All the sounds work during the sound tests?
Including the "ding,dong" sound?

[Foster]

What I was trying to say is this, I believe the machine is starting the reel spin sound before the last coin sound when you use the max bet button

[stayouttadabunker]

I wonder if it would be helpful if we could see a short video clip of his machine playing?
Also, some photos of his topbox speaker wiring configuration?
Especially the wiring exiting the Vision computer and the sound amplifier?

I wish I had my Vision computer installed in my topbox -
I would try running some sound tests with the "Cash Advance" chips.

[Jake777]

HI
I will try to fill Bunkers request soon I have t go to work today. I'll take some pics of the top box and a video of the machine, might be a challenge I have never posted a video before, I'll give it a try.

[stayouttadabunker]

...might be a challenge I have never posted a video before, I'll give it a try.

It's not too had really...
What I do is just take a short, video clip with a digital camera and upload it to my computer.
Maybe save it on the desktop with some name I've given to it like "MAX Bet Sounds"? for easy retrieval later.
Youtube is free...just start a free account with a name like "Jake777"

Go to youtube.com and upload the video by clicking on the "Upload" link.
It will open up a page with the big red upwards-pointing arrow.
Click on the arrow and it will open up a dialog box with your videos.
In your case, go to your desktop page and you will find the "Max Bet Sounds" folder.
Click on that folder and it will upload to youtube.
and there's a big red button called "Upload"
It will open up your computer files...maybe the video files?
Go to the "desktop" where you saved the video clip and click on it.
It takes a few minutes to "Upload" the video file then it will tell you when it's done.
You can see from my picture below that I clicked on a video clip file folder called "Hopper Test Cord" .
It's an old video clip I made of attaching an electrical cord to and S+ hopper to bench-test it.
and I added the link to this post.
Getting the video clip link comes up something like this second photo.
You right-click it, it highlights it in blue, "copy" it then "paste" it in your post.
Click on any screen shot below to enlarge if needed...>>>

[Jake777]

Thanks again everyone for helping. Here are the pics of my top box, I'm not sure why it won't let me post more than one at a time so sorry for the multiple posts. I also got some video but will have to learn and post then tomarrow night as I have to go to work again. Here is pic #1 Top LCD connections

[Jake777]

Pic #2 Entire Box

[Jake777]

Pic #3 Right Speaker

[Jake777]

Pic #4 Left Speaker

[Jake777]

Here goes my first video post. This is when the Max Button is pushed (no sound) and a Win with no credit roll up sound. If this works I' post a bonus round with a credit roll up.
http://youtu.be/qogTLVANZzo