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« on: September 28, 2012, 01:56:18 AM »

so far i tried replacing
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3-all chips sb100512 sg000371

this all started when i did a ram clear i started getting that vfd and call attendant on top box flicker....... like today i replaced the sb chip and it started flickering right after i replaced the chip so i did another ram clear and it stopped flickering till a few hours later when i shut it off and restarted it..... started to flicker again had to power it off wait like 3 minutes and turn it back on and it stopped again...... heres the vid of the flickering...... only thing i didnt replace yet is backboard...... or did i miss any settings after i ram cleared it?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/oKBFKLUfxHA&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/oKBFKLUfxHA&rel=0</a>
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 02:03:11 AM »

Hey staz, just for the heck of it, disconnect your TITO cable that connects the max232 to the machine...still happen?  Also, your USB power adapter is plugged into the receptacle inside of the machine right?  Unplug it as well just to see if anything changes.

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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 02:17:30 AM »

ya jas i unplugged tito and still happens...... the weird part that gets me is say i put the origenal sg chips in the 328's it does it constantly right after install but when i put my sg000371's in, it does it randomly after a power off and on.......im thinking maybe the clear chip i used messed up my machine? i used a 224 clear chip...... it looks like it cleared everything accept the time and date was still exact.....
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 02:23:18 AM »

Yeah, that's a possibility I suppose.  I'm not familiar with the chip configurations for the Barcrest machines, but if the Barcrest experts out here acknowledge that you are using the latest and greatest chips, then maybe a new clear chip is in order to try.

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 02:25:43 AM »

Does everything play ok?  Never hangs up with an error does it? 

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2012, 02:40:29 AM »

it plays great accept if i power it off and power it on within a minute it starts its flicker......or if i put sg000328's in it starts flickering constantly......
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 03:36:32 PM »

Could it be a loose sensor wire? ... "DOOR OPEN MB"  would seem to indicate that.  Scratch Head
When you cycle the power, you have to open and close the door, so perhaps that is why it seems to be related?

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 09:08:02 PM »

Could it be a loose sensor wire? ... "DOOR OPEN MB"  would seem to indicate that.  Scratch Head
When you cycle the power, you have to open and close the door, so perhaps that is why it seems to be related?



where are sensor wires?
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 09:37:25 PM »

He's referring to the door optics Staz. Maybe they aren't lining up
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2012, 12:18:12 AM »

i dont think its the optics i open and closed the door like 30 times and no flicker...... minute i turn the power off and turn it back on i get flicker..... i turn off power again for like 5 minutes then turn it back on i get nothing no flicker? out of all the issues i ever had with my other s2000  this one tops it all.....should i try getting a new back board and try it? the strange thing is when it flickers it even flickers with the door open too.....im determined to find the problem lol....
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2012, 12:56:06 AM »

Staz, have you checked the plug to the vfd display?
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2012, 01:01:37 AM »

i checked it looks secure.....
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2012, 01:13:07 AM »

I've got my smart phone so i can't really watch the video, does it just flicker or does it restart
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2012, 01:15:42 AM »

vfd flickers saying call attendant and my bv flickers with it and the top flickers with call attendant and the light on top blinks as it flickers....... very strange.....
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2012, 01:25:44 AM »

maybe i fried my game chips when i used a 224 clear or am i missing a key setting? cuz i noticed if i pop my 328's in it fluckers right after using 45 key config...... but if i pop my 371's no flicker after 45 key chip config....
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2012, 01:42:45 AM »

ok, got on my computer and watched the video. Have you looked at your belly door switch and maybe pull the wires off and tie them together? Also, check cashbox door switch to make sure it's closing. I've used the 224/45 chip combo on all my machines for over a year now without issues and I've got 2 Barcrest's that I've used them on multiple times. If you have a spare backplane I guess you could try it, but it looks from the video that if it's not a switch or optics problem then I guess I'm stumped also.
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2012, 02:03:11 AM »

i tried restarting my machine and i got a aux.matrix com failure what does that mean? i opened and closed my door and it cleared it...
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2012, 02:19:35 AM »

I've never heard of it, but it being a barcreat would lead me to believe it has to do with the backplane of the top box. I wonder if the one set of chips needs a faster MPU, like a 1270 or something? I'm still leaning towards a switch or optics issue though
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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2012, 05:25:54 AM »

I have had several machines do the same thing yours is doing... It's the belly door switch, it's going bad. Just splice the wires together to solve your problem. That should fix it.
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2012, 11:31:33 PM »

i think i solved the problem dont no how but its been 2 days with no flicker.......machine working good so far......
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2012, 11:53:11 PM »

Good. Hope it keeps working for you.
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2012, 12:13:26 AM »

How did you solve it?

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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2012, 12:55:50 AM »

well all i did was put the 371s in with the multi denom version chip, did a ram clear and keyed it......basicly how i had it before...... when it gave me no problems......then i set up titto on it and i played this thing today all day 12 hours so far and no issues...... accept i got a b closer error but that was cuz my cash box got so full of tickets it loosened my cash box door open...... so i locked cash box door now......my guess is its a software issue with my game chips...... i should have my 328's tested on another machine to see if they were the problem......
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2012, 01:28:51 AM »

setting this last night after i did a ram clear at 97% and its still stingy.......

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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2012, 01:32:34 AM »

i had a s2000 slanttop doing basically the same thing just not as often , kept getting those random door open messages, finally i changed out the MPU board and problem solved
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