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Title: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: knagl on January 07, 2009, 09:33:09 PM
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Anyone have any info about a PE+ video poker game called "Pay The Aces (No Faces)"?  I've played it at Main Street Station casino in downtown Las Vegas.  It's not in the bible, but I know it existed on the PE+ platform.  Anyone know what chip numbers are needed to run it?  Anyone have it?

I found some info on the game from The Wizard of Odds site (http://wizardofodds.com/videopoker/tables/paytheaces.html), but that's more info about the paytable and strategy of the game than technical details about it.

So... anyone?   :71-

Pay the Aces is a video poker game I have seen in a few casinos in Laughlin, Nevada. Strangely, I have never seen it anywhere else. The plays like double bonus, except there are bonuses for getting aces on the deal, with no face cards.

The following table shows the base game, before considering the bonuses.

Pay the Aces Base Game
Hand    Pays    Combinations    Probability    Return
Royal flush    800    539332812    0.000027    0.021646
Straight flush    50    2331337008    0.000117    0.005848
Four A    80    3886370616    0.000195    0.015598
Four 2-4    40    10449123324    0.000524    0.020968
Four 5-K    25    32039251668    0.001607    0.040183
Full house    8    226342165032    0.011355    0.090840
Flush    5    220691040360    0.011072    0.055358
Straight    4    292726917540    0.014685    0.058741
Three of a kind    2    1447582226256    0.072622    0.145243
Two pair    1    2515099494240    0.126176    0.126176
Pair    1    4172246949888    0.209311    0.209311
Nonpaying hand       11009296308456    0.552309    0.000000
Total       19933230517200    1.000000    0.789912

The next pay table shows the value of the bonuses on the deal.

Pay the Aces Bonuses
Hand    Pays    Combinations    Probability    Return
Four aces no faces dealt    500    36    0.000014    0.006926
Three aces no faces dealt    50    2520    0.000970    0.048481
Two aces no faces dealt    2    42840    0.016484    0.032967
One ace no faces dealt    1    235620    0.090659    0.090659
Other    0    2317944    0.891874    0.000000
Total    0    2598960    1.000000    0.179033

So the overall return of the game is 0.789912 + 0.179033 = 96.89%.


Title: Re: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: Rep on January 07, 2009, 09:55:58 PM
Hmm, looks interesting from the pays. New one to me though, never saw this one before!


Title: Re: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: knagl on January 07, 2009, 10:48:48 PM
I always liked the game because, even when playing in "credit" mode, the game would spit quarters out at you after the deal if you were dealt a hand with ace(s) and no face cards.


Title: Re: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: slottech69 on January 12, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
That is a new to me as well. But I know that IGT did make some themes that are specialized for some different casinos.  Like for the casino I work for, we have a "One Eyed Jacks" game in PE+ that our casino holds the rights to and it only available to be played in our casino and sister casino.


Title: Re: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: jay on January 12, 2009, 08:07:13 PM
Is the animation any better ?
Can you post pictures ?
For the sake of cataloging this do you know what chip numbers this game is assigned ?

Just an off the wall question ? is this a tight knit family of casinos .... or how do I and my basement become a 1/2 brother ?  :72- 


Title: Re: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: knagl on January 12, 2009, 08:34:28 PM
Just an off the wall question ? is this a tight knit family of casinos .... or how do I and my basement become a 1/2 brother ?  :72- 

Grand Casinos in Hinckley, MN and Mille Lacs, MN.  http://www.grandcasinomn.com/ (http://www.grandcasinomn.com/)

Those one-eyed jacks games are somewhat of a local legend.  Apparently the "perfect play" strategy is about ten pages long.

Welcome to NLG, by the way, slottech69 -- glad to have you here!

For what it's worth, the "Pay The Aces" game is found at a handful of casinos in Nevada (and apparently a lot more of them pre-TITO) -- it sounds like a game that never got brought over to the Game King for whatever reason and has mostly died out due to PE+ being removed from casino floors.


Title: Re: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: slottech69 on January 12, 2009, 10:32:52 PM
Yep you found me ... I work at Grand Casino Mille Lacs.  They are one of the best games that we have on the floor right now. That sounds right about the prefect play strategy.
The chip number for the One Eyed Jacks that we have is PPO797.
We also have Grand Nickels, Grand Quarters & Grand Bucks in the PE+ that was done for the "Grand Casino" chain. I think our Aces & Faces is a little bit different to. But these two poker games in PE+ is so much better than the I-Game versions that lol the guests really don't even play the TITO ones.


Title: Re: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: knagl on June 01, 2009, 07:08:45 AM
Well, a small update.

At a casino to remain nameless (really), a tech was kind enough to turn the JP reset key for me to show me what chipset was in their "Pay The Aces" PE+ machine, which may perhaps help me in my quest to find this game for my machine at home.

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X002287P
XP000057
CG:2325

Does anyone know of anyone who may have those chips stashed away somewhere collecting dust?  I'd sure like to buy a set for my PE+.


Also, oddly enough, at the Pioneer in Laughlin, I saw the same game, but on a Bally GameMaker.

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Title: Re: Pay The Aces (No Faces) Game Info?
Post by: jerry304 on June 11, 2009, 03:28:45 AM
There is one Pay The Aces (no faces) at the Speedway Casino, on Cheyenne and I-15, in Vegas. They changed the name of this casino, and I can't remember the new name, But they have ONE of these ganes there.