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« on: January 18, 2010, 10:52:12 PM »

I found a box I forgot I had containing 3 of these Spectrum boards.  Not sure what they go with so any help would be appreciated.


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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 11:26:31 PM »

Jeff,  It is said and spoken that these are for a wof-spectrum display driver boards.  Same as used in s-2000 it is said.  (for top box).  Later B. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 12:12:14 AM »

Jeff,  It is said and spoken that these are for a wof-spectrum display driver boards.  Same as used in s-2000 it is said.  (for top box).  Later B.  

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 12:52:52 AM »

That's one bad azzed ribbon cable header there on the left<<<!
Maybe that's for the Wheel lights!            naw....
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 01:12:44 AM »

the spectrum display hooks to this board.
You would need the wof controller and ......
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 01:14:26 AM »

and a big colored Wheel... bust gut laughing
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 01:26:00 AM »

the wheel itself has popped up on ebay before, a few times.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 02:05:05 AM »

Here is the display.   Much easier just using a standard spectrum,unless you have plans for the fiber hook-up  Tongue Out



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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2010, 04:30:41 AM »

The board and display as far as I know are a S+ Spectrum.
I do not know if they will work on any other IGT games from the S+ era.

They need a single Power Supply 12V about 10A or so, with the 5V supply built on the controller and display boards.
They use the same same connection in the top box as the 7 segment LED progressive.
Note the black connector near the Voltage regulators on the controller.
The +VB from machine is not used to power the spectrum controller/driver.
The header (ribbon) connector is the same on the controller and display.
The power supply connection to the machine uses the 120VAC to the top box light.

I have 2 versions of the controller/driver, 2 of the Displays as shown and a smaller display 1/3 or so in size.
I have been able to use thiem with standard SP and SS chips without any issues.
In one of my pictures on here or the prior site is a picture of my S+ with the Cham II+ and Spectrum on it.
I have since removed it in favor of the Cham II+.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 05:53:11 AM »

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I have 2 versions of the controller/driver, 2 of the Displays as shown and a smaller display 1/3 or so in size.
I have been able to use thiem with standard SP and SS chips without any issues.
In one of my pictures on here or the prior site is a picture of my S+ with the Cham II+ and Spectrum on it.
I have since removed it in favor of the Cham II+.

What advantage did the ChamII+ provide, once you had the Spectrum up and running?
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 10:43:13 PM »

Cham II+ advantages:
Dazzle (Dancing) colors,
Progressive increment independent of denomination, where the S+ Spectrum is a percentage of the coin denomination up to  99.99%, no it will not round up.
Custom messages - there may be a way to do it on the S+ spectrum but that is a mystery.
Data cable between display and controller Cham II+ 20 conductor, Spectrum for S+ 40-50 conductor. which is hard to feed through the hole for the candle.

Setting up the spectrum was no harder to do than the small progressive setup, just more cumbersome physically.
There are DIP switches on both the display and controller
The display DIP determines if it shows the level 1 (top award) or Level 2 (2nd progressive value)
I found out that those themes that do not support the level 2 progressive it will increment but the machine pays a standard amount as set in the SS chip.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 10:54:50 PM »

The board and display as far as I know are a S+ Spectrum.


Interesting that Barry says they are for a WOF.  The date on the chip is 1997 so it could be for the S+, not S2000. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2010, 11:01:34 PM »

don't let the dates confuse, sometimes they are when they started the project or copyrighted it. What year did vVision come out?  Looks like s2000 WOF to me.

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 11:27:59 PM »

Let me pull my 2 controllers from the closet and look at the CPU and version, dates on the ROM's

But I do not remember seeing anything on them that refers to netplex.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 11:38:38 PM »

The board and display as far as I know are a S+ Spectrum.

There needs to be no more discussion about this.  The board you have jeff will work in a s-2000 wof.  All it is for  the spectrum display and nothing more than that. The same board can be used in others with a simple chip swap for the appropriate game.  They use newer style stuff now but most running still have that old spectrum driver board and chip in it.  Build one and chk it for yourself.  The pwr supply in the top box with that rig powers ONLY the spectrum display--Nothing else and the pwr supply is not really needed as you can tap-pwr from the lower cab.  This being said over time will KILL your lower pwr supply over time from the extra demand.  The power supply is identical to the one in the lower cab.  There are newer style spectrum displays which have the driver loaded into them.  Both work and do the same.  The driver board etc. is all net-plexed as it has to be, via wires.  B.

Interesting that Barry says they are for a WOF.  The date on the chip is 1997 so it could be for the S+, not S2000. 
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2010, 12:09:59 AM »

controller board 1
Board Artwork
Assy No 7550720
copyright 1994
SPECTRUM

CPU Intel P80C32
ROM label SD0094 03/30/98 (1-256) ONT NSC
board label 75507202, IN 300  Paradise RWK

Controller 2 (one I used in my S+)
Assy PN 75512000 Rev A
part of board artwork:
Spectrum
Made in USA
COPYRIGHT 1998 BY IGT
CPU or microcontroller chip label SPECTRUM REV A 32805000 13/03/00
ROM label SD0091 08/08/96 (1-256) @IGT ONT
also has a Intel 80C32 or clone on board.

Both boards do have Fibre Optic ports on them.

Also both Power Supplies came with male and female connectors that match the 2 pin connector for the AC that goes to the Top box fluorescent light ballast/starter.
I did also get 2 of the 15 pin to 6 pin pigtails to connect to the S+.

I was off on the Power supply rating it is 12V at 8A

So who knows if the boards can support both the S+ serial output used for the player display and 7 segment progressive (which it does) and also the Netplex used in the S2000/I-game/etc.
I am not about to connect it to my Vision Ready to find out.
My luck it would let all the magic smoke out.
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2010, 01:15:32 AM »

Here is a picture I modified from old files.  The SAME board and chip works just fine.  This is not fiber-optic link,  All wiring.  B.


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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2010, 01:24:37 AM »

As a Note I was just on the phone the last two hours while in the middle of my last post.  Foster,  This board works in a s-2000 wof.  You do not need to research it--It has already been done.  The board is pretty much standard equipment in them up to 2005 or so.  As I stated MOST all of them on the floors STILL have them in them.  In closing,  For the orginal post-Jeff rest assured the three boards you have will work with no problems at all.  Case closed. You can also use the newer style displays that will work all the same with no diff. in game play or apperance.  The gain there was less componets and easier set-up build for them.  No one has posted pics of that yet so I am not at leisure to talk about that yet.  B. 
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2010, 01:50:55 AM »

They do hook up easy to the netplex but agree,big and bulky. The smaller all in one is much easier to play with.



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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2010, 02:08:25 AM »

Anthony,  Good post,  The smaller black connector/interface is where the netplex occurs on that one.  This must have been one of your old file pics.  The harness that makes all that happen for spectrum is actually quite large-6-molex connectors in all.  1-reel driver box, 3-netplex/pwr distrubution, 1-spectrum driver board,1-lower cab interface/connection.  The board can do other but it is not needed for this application.  wof large over head signs can be driven from the bottom cab via fiber opitic link. B.
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2010, 06:17:25 AM »

Foster, thanks for answering my question. K+.
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2010, 05:13:24 AM »

I have the same S+ Spectrum board as being described here.
It seems to be verified that the board does work in the S2000's.
I would like to put one of these in the S2000 but I have only the S+ 15-pin molex.
What are the pin outs from the 6-pin header on the Spectrum
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2010, 06:46:20 AM »

J63 on the Spectrum Driver board is the interface, may be another number on yours but pins are the same.
Note DD0, Data Clock, Strobe 2, Strobe 3 are inverse logic levels, they have line over each one.
Each has a pull up resister tied to +VB, then going to a hex inverter to restore them to normal logic levels but the strobes signals are re-inverted again (not sure why) but it works

Pin -- Description per S+ manuals used the mini progressive driver schematic to get the information since the S+ mini progressive and Spectrum use the same 15 pin to 6 pin harness.
1       DD0
2       Data Clock
3       Strobe 2
4       +VB
5       Ground
6      Strobe 3

Netplex ports on Distribution board.
Pin Desc.
1    +25VDC            Orange
2    BGND               Black with orange
3    MRESET            Green with black
4    NETPLEX RxD    Green with brown
5    NET+VDC         Green with red
6    +13VDC           Red
7    BGND               Black wirh red
8    NETPLEX TxD    Green with orange
9    NETGND           Green or Green with blue
10  No Connection   n/a

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2010, 04:05:00 PM »

Not really knowing for sure...
Does this look like it might work?
I'd hate to plug it in and blow up my new hardware... bawling
I'm trying to follow from the Netplex-To-SpectrumII harness picture below.
The SpectrumII uses a 5-pin black molex connector while
the regular Spectrum has a 6-pin black molex connector.>>>


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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2010, 04:21:30 PM »

Here's a couple of pictures of the Spectrum J2 6-pin molex connector
which is exactly like the ones used in S+'s for the mini-photons.>>>


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