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« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2008, 10:50:02 PM »

Dan, all of my displays have the same label that you listed with the 70817000 number. Is this the chip you replaced or the non labeled chip above it by S1?

This is getting confusing!  lol....

The only chip I moved is the one right next to S1.  Which ever board I put this chip in scrolls.  This is the chip that the Version menu shows as "SDF100".

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« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2008, 04:19:58 AM »

I would forget using the IGT Downloader and just use a burner.
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« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2008, 01:13:30 PM »

I would forget using the IGT Downloader and just use a burner.
I do agree that using a burner is the easiest.   
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« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2008, 02:25:39 PM »

Hello all!

Well, as I investigate the IGT Downloader tool - it appears at minimum I would at least need a Serial to Fiber adapter/transceiver which start around $30-$40 on eBay to connect my machine to my computer.  I think I would rather take that money and invest it toward a burner.  I have run into instances before where I could have saved myself money if I had a burner....

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« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2008, 03:37:26 PM »

 I have run into instances before where I could have saved myself money if I had a burner....

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« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2008, 03:55:27 PM »

on the old site we had long topics on which burner to get.

The 2 that come to mind are Batronix and MCUMALL.

http://www.batronix.com

BX40 (super super Fast but costs more)  super easy software program to use too and does everything under the sun. 

http://mcumall.com

True-USB Willem programmer(GQ-4X)  Also super easy program to use and overall best value in my humble opinion.   It does require an adapter for PLCC but it comes with it in the full package.    FAST as well

Try to avoid the basic Willem Programmer that is all over eBay as most will not do the PLCC chips and or 40PIN S2000 Base etc.   Also they are much slower but some are decent. 

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« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2008, 05:35:32 PM »

EasyPro burner at MCUMall as well is a good one.
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« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2009, 04:51:01 AM »

Hello all!

Just wanted to post an update.  I received a new second SDF100 chip and installed it into my display that would not scroll and put it in my machine and now it SCROLLS!  So it would seem the SDF100 is the key.  That was the only thing I changed to make the non-scrolling display start to scroll.  It seems odd a newer version would have this feature removed - but hey, IGT has done weirder things before....

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« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2009, 12:23:39 PM »

Dpalmi,
Did you modify the chip at all (burn new information into it,etc.) , or did you just drop it in straight from the store?
If that's all it took , then that's great! I haven't gotten into chip burning yet.
Life is complicated enough without getting into reading and deciphering checksums and the like...lol
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« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2009, 02:38:11 PM »

Dpalmi,
Did you modify the chip at all (burn new information into it,etc.) , or did you just drop it in straight from the store?
If that's all it took , then that's great! I haven't gotten into chip burning yet.
Life is complicated enough without getting into reading and deciphering checksums and the like...lol

Hello!

I do not own a burner - I had someone else burn this for me, so I will check with them to see if they did anything special.  But I don't believe they did....

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« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2009, 06:59:23 PM »

Ah ha! I KNEW it wasn't straight outta da store!  rotflmao
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« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2009, 05:45:32 PM »

Ok, so vacation this winter (what with the trip to see Joey and avail my dirtbike of some of the finest and most challenging desert riding I've seen in years, and my daughter has never seen) was not used to install my Vision.

But, all is not lost. Can anyone identify the 3 connectors here, and supply a pinout?

I've seen this quoted picture in another thread



but can't tell what the 3rd connector on the left is connected to in that picture. I've got the bottom black Netplex connector wired, I just need to get the wiring for the power (and know if it's the 13 or 24 volt power the display needs).

<edit> And where the power I need comes in to the top box.


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« Reply #62 on: March 28, 2009, 06:48:31 PM »

These were pics Railroad94 had posted, here is the other pic that shows the dstribution board plug (2nd 10 plug from right) and the corresponding colored wires that match the pic you have shown above  Now if you do not have the netplex/power distribution board in your S2000, then an alternative wiring is needed.

 Dan (tacman)

 I believe that 3rd plug on the left is just a 2 pin molex connection for power of the actual display, which I think is 13v, but I am not certain. Tony, want to jump in here?


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« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2009, 10:51:02 PM »

24v no no no        The bottom line is you need your netplex in the bottom connector (5) wires and 13 volt pos and neg which goes into the the 6 pin molex connector and gives power to the pcb board as pictured and then you can grab 13v + and -  from the adjacent terminals in the 6 pin connector and plug them in the lower 2 pin molex which gives power to the actual display.
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« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2009, 11:10:17 PM »

Lower 2 pin? You mean the 2 pin just to the left of the 6 pin in my photo?

And, on the 6 pin the power goes in the 2 left pins (pins 1 and 4) and out the 2 center pins (pins 2 and 5)? I don't have the distribution board...
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« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2009, 12:05:01 AM »

The 2 pin molex alongside the 6 pin molex you leave unconnected. you use the one in the bottom corner that is by itself.

Yes  yes,  on the 6 pin, #1 is 13vdc power in and #4 is neg in    #2 is 13vdc out and # 5 neg out.  Pin 2 &5 goes to the very bottom connector

With or without distribution board    5 netplex wires and 13vdc and you have it.

Don't forget when your all done might have to go to options and do auto config for all netplex devices
                       
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« Reply #66 on: March 29, 2009, 12:50:20 AM »

Hello!

As a note - you will need a KEY chip to enable and set the options for the Spectrum progressive....

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« Reply #67 on: March 29, 2009, 03:28:06 AM »

The 2 pin molex alongside the 6 pin molex you leave unconnected. you use the one in the bottom corner that is by itself.

Yes  yes,  on the 6 pin, #1 is 13vdc power in and #4 is neg in    #2 is 13vdc out and # 5 neg out.  Pin 2 &5 goes to the very bottom connector

With or without distribution board    5 netplex wires and 13vdc and you have it.

Don't forget when your all done might have to go to options and do auto config for all netplex devices
                       

Ha! That other connector is so hidden I missed it until I read your post! Duh! Duh! Thanks for the heads up, K+ to you!
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« Reply #68 on: March 29, 2009, 03:30:22 AM »

Hello!

As a note - you will need a KEY chip to enable and set the options for the Spectrum progressive....

Dan #2

Yup, got one of those already. Thanks  for the reply.

Hopefully I'll have this up and running tomorrow, then I can slave both my machines to my CON2 and drive my 1x3 Supreme.
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« Reply #69 on: March 29, 2009, 11:33:31 AM »

Hello!

As a note - you will need a KEY chip to enable and set the options for the Spectrum progressive....

Dan #2

Yup, got one of those already. Thanks  for the reply.

Hopefully I'll have this up and running tomorrow, then I can slave both my machines to my CON2 and drive my 1x3 Supreme.

Do I understand correctly that you intend to run both a spectrum (in stand alone) and the CON2 (linked) using the 1 X 3 as a meter too?
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« Reply #70 on: March 29, 2009, 03:40:14 PM »


I'll start out with just a standalone to verify everything is working, then add from there.

I'm still looking at the documentation (and don't have much on the Vision/S2000/Spectrum linked setup), but one of my goals is to have the S+ and the S2000 running a linked progressive to the CON2 with the in-machine displays mirroring the amount on the 1x3. I also want to try to set up a level of standalone on each along with a linked, with the standalone amount displayed on the in-machine displays and the linked amount on the 1x3.

Not sure if that will be possible yet, but the Vision appears to have the correct options to make this possible. Under the progressive setup, it seems there are menus for both (CON Select 7.3.1 and Standalone 7.3.3) in the PSR for SG000312 (Haywire Deluxe). I don't have a PSR for SG000018 (Slot Bingo) so I'm a little unclear on the options there. But, I'm an optimist, so I'll just assume it's possible until I prove it isn't.  propeller
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« Reply #71 on: March 29, 2009, 05:10:23 PM »

I haven't been able to mix and match like what you want to do.  The S+ communicates fine but if I add a S2000 the S2000 won't link up.

Let us know how you make out. 

Here is mine with 2 S+ machines hooked up to my CON2, and both a 1 X 3 for the meter and a 2 X 3 for the animated graphics display.



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« Reply #72 on: March 29, 2009, 05:36:07 PM »



Here is mine with 2 S+ machines hooked up to my CON2, and both a 1 X 3 for the meter and a 2 X 3 for the animated graphics display.



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« Reply #73 on: March 29, 2009, 06:43:23 PM »

That looks awesome.  WOW!

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« Reply #74 on: March 29, 2009, 07:01:20 PM »

One more photo.  The 2 X 3 alternates between about a 8 different animated graphics and the current progressive jackpot in between each animation.

I have enough parts to build another 2 X 3 but I was thinking of just expanding it to a 4 X 3.  Not sure I have enough memory in the Supreme to drive it though.



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