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Title: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on January 30, 2011, 09:28:28 AM
Hi,

My first question: I still don't have the cable that goes from the controller to the computer. However, I tried to open PSP with  an XP computer, I am asked to press F10 to enter then to enter the password, which I have, but there's no entering the password... Has  the cable got to be plugged to be allowed to enter PSP?

Thanks for your help. I will sure have other questions in the following days...

Have a nice day.

Cyril


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on January 30, 2011, 12:32:37 PM
 More details:

When I turn the power supply on, I get a C10 and a C 14... (?)

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :88-


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: jay on February 01, 2011, 10:15:41 PM
Cable does not need to be there for PSP to work.

You enter the password then press F10 to submit it. Enter doesn;t work.

What kind of progessive ? ChamII, ChamII+, CON1, CON2 ????
If you need help identifying it, post a picture.


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: StatFreak on February 02, 2011, 02:16:15 AM
It will also help to know what type of slot machine(s) you're going to connect to the progressive because it will affect the settings and/or hardware requirements.


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: shivwitts on February 02, 2011, 09:17:17 PM
C10 = Checksum of a value in the controller has failed
C14 = Slot Machine Interface Communication error in UART. Over 20 errors have been recieved from slot machine interface.

I have had that happen to me and i eventually had to reload the program to get it to work.


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stormrider on February 02, 2011, 09:37:21 PM
C10 = Checksum of a value in the controller has failed
C14 = Slot Machine Interface Communication error in UART. Over 20 errors have been recieved from slot machine interface.

I have had that happen to me and i eventually had to reload the program to get it to work.

C10 could also mean- Progressive is not set up (use PSP to initialize progressive)
as well as the C14 error it all depends on what type of Cham or Con we are talking about here
until Cyril posts back what he has and the machine we can't help.

Tim

Let me also add the Mikohn Progressive section has loads of info
on how to set these up with plenty of pictures or help with error codes.


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: StatFreak on February 03, 2011, 03:11:02 AM

Let me also add the Mikohn Progressive section has loads of info
on how to set these up with plenty of pictures or help with error codes.
:212- :212-


StatFreak :31-
:nlg-  Global Moderator


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 05, 2011, 08:56:43 AM
Hi,

Thanks for your replies.

I took time to peruse the various threads devoted to beginners like me and i eventually managed to program the progressive on my Silver and Gold.

One question, what PSP version would I need to get the EURO symbol instead of the Dollar one?

Thanks


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stormrider on February 05, 2011, 09:36:13 AM
Hi,

Thanks for your replies.

I took time to peruse the various threads devoted to beginners like me and i eventually managed to program the progressive on my Silver and Gold.

One question, what PSP version would I need to get the EURO symbol instead of the Dollar one?

Thanks


Cyril,

Good job on getting it up and running.
Under the main menu in psp hit # 3 Symbols and currency setup
then F4 and see if the Euro symbol is there, if not you can have a blank symbol instead of the $


Sorry on the way out the door no time to check the psp and version

Tim


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: coorslight115 on February 11, 2011, 01:16:36 AM
Some Mikohn manual stuff and PSP software and manuals just appeared in the upload section :200-


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 14, 2011, 09:20:07 AM
Hi again,

I thought I was a real expert so I purchased two more progressive systems.

One was programmed very quicly, hoewer I got problems with the other one.

At the "Jackpot Programming" section, on line 2 corresponding to "CURRENT JACKPOT" it reads as follows:   0 ; ,>?0,000,00    There is no changing the ;   as well as the > and the "question mark". Any idea.?

The dispaly keeps showing zero even if I put a 3 for instance after the question mark. It also shows C1.

I am a bit confused. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks;

Cyril


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 14, 2011, 02:29:00 PM
Back to the post.

My units are fOr stand alone.

I finally managed to get rid of the strange symbols on the current jackpot line. However, there is no sending anything to the display. It keeps to 00,0 $. It shows C1, C 12.  I sometimes deliberately st the jackpot limit higher than the current jackpot and I get a C15, which means this info goes from the computer to the unit. Why do you think it does not take any other infos?  I compared the 2 units, on this one one green led is off while on the other unit the same one keeps flashing ( green) (???)

As rergards the other unit, I can program it properly. When I turn PSP off, I choose "Exit saving files ( or something like this) but when I turn the unit off and on again, all datas are erased apart from the current jackpot, C 10 flashes every three seconds.  Could that come from a dead battery?

Thanks for your help.

Cyril


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stormrider on February 14, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
Cyril,

Check the battery voltage first !!!!!

When you exit to save are you pressing F10 2 times to exit
then F2 (to save configuration file on exit) if so next time you restart psp
all the info should be saved.

Try this with the working one,hook up your cable from Mikohn to pc
then go into Jackpot programming hit F2 Load this should show you
all the current info of the progressive,then back out with F10 2times THEN F2 to save.

Hook up the non working unit
Restart psp go to jackpot programming and see if it saved the settings from the working one
it should.....then hit F1 to send that info to the non working progressive.

Please note that your base value must be lower than all the rest.



If you do get the non working one to take the progressive info
and you restart the Mikohn and it goes back to 0 or errors on the display then it would be safe to say the battery is dead.

Tim



Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stormrider on February 14, 2011, 04:07:05 PM
C12   Programmed JP limit is less than current JP
C15   Progressive not set up correctly (Base>Limit or Base>Current or Hidden>Limit)


Here is a list of Errors in case you don't have it
















Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 14, 2011, 05:44:44 PM
 Thanks for your help.

I did press F10 twice then F2 but when I unplug the unit then plug it again the current jackpot goes back to ZERO.

I will check the battery tomorrow. Has anybody ever changed it?

Cyril


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stormrider on February 14, 2011, 11:46:09 PM
Thanks for your help.

I did press F10 twice then F2 but when I unplug the unit then plug it again the current jackpot goes back to ZERO.

I will check the battery tomorrow. Has anybody ever changed it?

Cyril

Original battery is VL2020






Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: StatFreak on February 15, 2011, 10:14:44 AM
Cyril, I'm going to assume that you have a CHAMII+ based on the data in your posts, although you never answered that question. :103-

Keep in mind that when you save settings on exit in the PSP program, you are saving them to your hard drive so that the program will load them the next time you start it. You are not uploading them to the controller. Pressing F1 uploads the settings.

If your controller displays the uploaded settings correctly and then resets when power is cycled, you most likely have a dead battery, as stormrider pointed out. It's odd that you say that the current jackpot amount resets, because it should never do so, even if the battery is dead. I think that they did that to comply with gaming laws dealing with monetary amounts, but I'm not sure.

Also, the ChamII+ is notorious for not accepting some of the upload data unless it's sent immediately after booting. This is an intermittent issue, so sometimes data will successfully upload at other times, and not all data are affected by this glitch. If you are having trouble getting your changes to take, try rebooting the unit and pressing F1 right after the boot sequence finishes.

Finally, did you modify your serial cable?



Hope this helps.

Stat :31-



Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 15, 2011, 01:20:12 PM
Hi,

Thnaks for your comments.

I had the battery changed today.

When I started the unit, I had a C2 ( green letters) as well as other C's such as C10 and C 12.

After a while I eventually managed to clear the C2, I tried to send 10,000 but all I got was 000°° ( 2 small zéros  :103- :103- ) and the Euro sign. There is no sending anything else. When I turn the unit off and on again, same problem as before, C 10 goes back again.
Now I have 2 units Which do not work. Should I insist or dump the damn things?  :99- please.


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: Ron (r273) on February 15, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
CYRIL1973 take a look at my settings on a S-2000.

Ron (r273)


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 15, 2011, 10:38:50 PM
I will try that tomorrow and let you know.

Thank you.

Cyril


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 16, 2011, 09:08:14 AM
Hi r 273 and others

I tried your programming, I could send infos to one of the units, thanks :244-, however, all datas are lost whenever I turn it off :8-. Back to C10 and 00,00$. I am at a loss for words.

The other unit now shows c1 and 00,00$, no datas can be sent. :50- :50- :50-

Any ideas are welcome before I invest in a brand new hammer. :79-

Have nice day.

Cyril


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: jay on February 17, 2011, 03:34:58 PM
Cyril,

I am having a similar problem with one of my progressives. If I don't run my slots for a week or so my progressive info is lost.
The reason is the battery on the board needs to be replaced.

I haven't done any investigation as to what type of battery, voltage etc but most commonly with slot stuff its a 3.6v lithium that is soldered on.

You need to replace these every 12 years or so..... (usually longer than the intended service life of the unit).

I am sure others can clairify this for us.


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 17, 2011, 04:37:38 PM
Hi,

 I did change the battery so the datas should be kept. I am kind of puzzled.

 As I already mentioned the other unit keeps showing c 1 and 00,00$

Couldn't that come from the power supply as the leds do not flash quite well?


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 17, 2011, 04:44:58 PM
How many displays are plugged into one power supply?


3 ?


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stormrider on February 17, 2011, 06:09:43 PM
Cyril,

I am having a similar problem with one of my progressives. If I don't run my slots for a week or so my progressive info is lost.
The reason is the battery on the board needs to be replaced.

I haven't done any investigation as to what type of battery, voltage etc but most commonly with slot stuff its a 3.6v lithium that is soldered on.

You need to replace these every 12 years or so..... (usually longer than the intended service life of the unit).

I am sure others can clairify this for us.

It's a Panasonic VL2020 3 volt with solder tabs not 3.6
I have had 2 of mine go out with the voltage reading of 2.8 or less
you will lose progressive settings when it drops after being shut off.

I can't say what Cyril's problem is he did say he had a new battery installed
but what type is anyone's guess, he also had one working
another reason could be he might not have the Mikohn set for SA
under display settings which is done with the 2 padded buttons and switch
on the Cham II board itself.

No reason the psp program should show all 0000
if he saves the info correctly before shutting down psp.

Tim


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 17, 2011, 07:37:45 PM
The mikhon is set for stand alone.

It would help me if someone posted all the messages you get while the unit rebbots to compare to what shows in mine.

Another thing, the jackpot goes back to zero when I turn the unit on but the day and date are kept in memory. Shouldn't all the datas dispappeared if the battery was dead?


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 17, 2011, 07:49:17 PM
Do you have a ChamII or a ChamII+ board?
Can you take a good clear ( means "unblurry") photograph of the board
and post it up so we can be sure ?

Remember..."The more you show us - the more more we will show you".


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 17, 2011, 08:27:09 PM
Here ya go.


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 17, 2011, 08:29:18 PM
PIcs


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 17, 2011, 10:18:09 PM
Well, we got a picture or something.... :72-
The ONLY thing I know for sure is that it IS a progressive board.

What does it say on the white label I've highlighted?
That should tell us EXACTLY what that board IS.



Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 17, 2011, 10:39:53 PM
Sorry, the pics are rubbish.  :30-

The label says: 341 075 00 CSTLR Stand Alone 00512616 (2)


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: Foster on February 17, 2011, 10:40:40 PM
That is a Cham II+



Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 17, 2011, 10:54:21 PM
...The label says: 341 075 00 CSTLR Stand Alone 00512616 (2)
That is a Cham II+

Ladies and Gentlemen of the the house...
We have a BINGO!

32 bloody posts and we now know what the heck we're trying to fix!  

:97-

 :136-   :208-

I should be a bloody DENTIST because I'm trying to extract info about their broken stuff!


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: Foster on February 17, 2011, 11:33:29 PM
I suspected it was a Cham II+ but the Cham II and II+ look similar in blurry pictures.


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 18, 2011, 08:51:07 AM
Hello,

Thanks to that identification, may I be hopeful as to make mu nits work? :103-


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 18, 2011, 12:45:07 PM
Foster uploaded a manual for you.
Others have uploaded sheets for all the error codes.
You have a bunch of reading to do...

There are many threads devoted to the setting up of Mikohns and
all the different problems they've had and how they solved them.
Below is a link to the forum containing all those threads.>>>

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=26.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=26.0)

Mikohn progressive boards are pretty old technology and
are still in use today in casinos throughout the world.
Once, you figure out how to get past the errors in configuration set-ups,
your display sign should last a long time.
But first you need to educate yourself on how these work and how to set them up.
Too many times we will give you information that you don't quite yet understand.

I remember when I first got a Mikohn, I read thread after thread after
thread until I understood what makes these puppies tick!
I attribute a lot of what I've learned about these Mikohns through help from members and reading
tons of information on it available right at your fingertips here on newlifegames!
Patience is the key and understanding that you will NOT learn how to set these up - overnight...


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: CYRIL1973 on February 19, 2011, 02:13:57 PM
Hi,

I took time to read the manual properly. I studied the menus and changed a few options. The unit which wouldn't take any datas finally accepted the signal. Great.  I would like to know if it is usual to get a c10 when I plug it again a day after. The current jackpot was still registered.

Thanks


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 19, 2011, 04:13:30 PM
No, It's NOT usual to keep getting that message just because you've turned it off.
I'm not sure why but sometimes they do this and I suspect that
something is going bad perhaps with memory retention of the Ram.
It seems to NEED to be hooked up at all times or you get the [C10] message.

Have you tried swapping the boards with the displays?
See if you can stop getting the [C10] with one setup?
For some reason, the board saves the progressive amount values but
neglects to save your settings.
I'm thinking that you may be missing a step when saving them?
Does the manual say anything about saving settings?


Title: Re: Absolute Progressive beginner looks for experts LOL
Post by: stormrider on February 20, 2011, 03:08:22 PM
The mikhon is set for stand alone.

It would help me if someone posted all the messages you get while the unit rebbots to compare to what shows in mine.

Another thing, the jackpot goes back to zero when I turn the unit on but the day and date are kept in memory. Shouldn't all the datas dispappeared if the battery was dead?

Cyril,

Here is a Mikohn chamII+ on startup Bally 6000
I like to use the flip18 and MFILE4 for dazzle
and yes I know the date is wrong and it even has older software @1.61

Tim


http://s1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc425/stormrider63/?action=view&current=Mikohnstartup.mp4 (http://s1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc425/stormrider63/?action=view&current=Mikohnstartup.mp4)