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« on: July 14, 2011, 01:46:31 PM »

I was wondering if anyone had the ability to burn to eeproms for me?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

MAME roms are um312u54.bin and um312u63.bin.


EEPROM L 1.2 U54 MORTAL KOMBAT 3 ULTIMATE.

M27C4001
-12F1
B88AV
9535E
ST
SINGAPORE


EEPROM L 1.2 U63 MORTAL KOMBAT 3 ULTIMATE.

M27C4001
-10F1
B88AA
9540E
ST
SINGAPORE
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2011, 02:01:30 PM »

I was wondering if anyone had the ability to burn to eeproms for me?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

MAME roms are um312u54.bin and um312u63.bin.


EEPROM L 1.2 U54 MORTAL KOMBAT 3 ULTIMATE.

M27C4001
-12F1
B88AV
9535E
ST
SINGAPORE


EEPROM L 1.2 U63 MORTAL KOMBAT 3 ULTIMATE.

M27C4001
-10F1
B88AA
9540E
ST
SINGAPORE

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2011, 02:04:26 AM »

Hey Cap'n... it's OK.

These are in the public domain in the MAME archives. He's looking for a newer revision of the arcade game program ROMs.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2011, 02:51:00 PM »

I'm pretty sure that all Arcade bins are copyrighted by their holders.  The fact that it is emulated in Mame and it can be gotten relatively easily does not mean it's public domain.  To the best of my knowledge there are only like 3 or 4 games that have been released to the public domain.  You can look at Galaga for example that has been in MAME forever, but it is still not "legal" to have a dump of the rom unless you own an original.  Just my .02 worth on this subject.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2011, 03:53:10 PM »

hmmm I have a question on that topic....   and or observation....   stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking

If the company is closed up ETC: Midway Games, Inc. CLOSED Following a bankruptcy filing in 2009...  knockout knockout knockout There is no one around any more to sue you !!!  knockout knockout knockout

And the copyright holders are not around anymore.. or just don't give a crap about the games. no no

Is it pirating software  arrow  If you own the game? and want to bring your game back to life ? ? 

If I buy a game on ebay and it's missing the game chip... or if Im restoring a game and drop the game board smashing a Rom.
Is it pirating software if I download a copy of the .bin file to repair my game ???  Scratch Head Scratch Head Scratch Head

 stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking Yes im  stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking stir the pot / get cooking Stirring the pot...  frying pan frying pan For one IGT EOL  "End of life" The S+ Slot back in 1999 or 2000 ..

It's been 11 years How long does a copyright last???  I thought is was only 7 years and you have to  renew every 7 years....
and if you don't support or you walk away from your Hardware - Software it then falls into the public realm..  knockout knockout


So if you call IGT and try to order a SS-Rom they will TELL YOU  ----- " WE DON'T SUPPORT THE S+ PLATFORM ANY MORE SORRY"  ....  SO YOUR SOL...  muted muted


A lot of Slot and Amusement company's have gone under and or just walked away from there hardware/software leaving the users to fend for themselves  muted muted muted

So in the end is fixing your games a form of software / copyright.. software piracy ????   TMI Hijack
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2011, 04:29:15 PM »

There are specific time limits that apply to copyrighted works. I don't know but the formula is after 1960 one set of rules apply and before 1960, another set. Also, someone always holds "the rights" to something that appears to be "old". The original company may not exist but the "rights" are still held by someone and you still need their permission to use it. Anybody, please feel free to jump in and correct any mistake I may have made.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2011, 05:43:45 PM »

FWIW, this is on Nintendo's site

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U.S. copyright laws state that copyrights owned by corporations are valid for 75 years from the date of first publication. Because video games have been around for less than three decades, the copyrights of all video games will not expire for many decades to come.


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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2011, 06:22:38 PM »

Many of these things fall under the term "Abandonware" -- the company may no longer be around, or they may not support the platform, but generally someone still owns the copyright.

Will a defunct company sue someone who sends a copy of an old file to someone else?  Probably not.  However, in the interest of the protection of this site, I would strongly suggest that any such transactions not be conducted here under the 'rule' of "better safe than sorry".  There are other sites out there where such discussion can take place and it won't jeopardize the well-being of NLG.
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2011, 07:16:50 PM »

FWIW, this is on Nintendo's site

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U.S. copyright laws state that copyrights owned by corporations are valid for 75 years from the date of first publication. Because video games have been around for less than three decades, the copyrights of all video games will not expire for many decades to come.


http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#domain

 
from the same site ----- WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP !!!


Are Game Copying Devices Illegal?

Yes. Game copiers enable users to illegally copy video game software onto floppy disks, writeable compact disks or the hard drive of a personal computer. They enable the user to make, play and distribute illegal copies of video game software which violates Nintendo's copyrights and trademarks.

These devices also allow for the uploading and downloading of ROMs to and from the Internet.

Based upon the functions of these devices, they are illegal. 

We are all in deep shit then frying pan frying pan frying pan frying pan NOPE !!!! WRONG !!!!   JUST TRY AND TAKE MY EPROM BURNER --- LMAO

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2011, 07:36:55 PM »

 
from the same site ----- WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP !!!
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NOPE !!!! WRONG !!!!   JUST TRY AND TAKE MY EPROM BURNER --- LMAO

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A device like a eprom burner that is in 'common use' is a bit different than some of the 'custom' hardware designed to copy some of the Nintendo game cartridges that used proprietary chips. That's why I think you can only buy some of those devices from oversea sites. I think that is what they are talking about.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2011, 07:51:15 PM »

There are specific time limits that apply to copyrighted works. I don't know but the formula is after 1960 one set of rules apply and before 1960, another set. Also, someone always holds "the rights" to something that appears to be "old". The original company may not exist but the "rights" are still held by someone and you still need their permission to use it. Anybody, please feel free to jump in and correct any mistake I may have made.

As has been said, software is protected for 75 years. The question is, what are the terms for software/firmware developed and when would it, or how could it fall into the public domain, or does that even matter, considering that it can only be used as firmware to drive IGT hardware which each of us has legally purchased?

After all, "Happy Birthday" was written by the Hill sisters back in 1893, and AOL/Time Warner still owns the copyright on it. Don't sing it publicly without paying that royalty arrow, which will be split between AOL and the Hill sister's foundation. frying pan You can, however, sing it privately -- in other words, you can use it for personal use without infringement.

So what we really need is someone to dig deeply into the laws concerning holding soft copies of firmware that drives proprietary hardware (the slot machine) that is legally owned by the individual.   stir the pot / get cooking Scratch Head
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2011, 09:41:39 PM »

There are really two issues at hand here.  One being the legality of the thing, which in this case is clearly NOT legal.  The other one is wether or not the copyright holder gives a dam to even spend the money to bring the matter to court.  I remember a couple of years ago I wanted to make a DVD for my son's 1st grade class that had videos and pictures of the year's events.  I was going to author the DVD and one of the chapters was a slideshow with pictures taken at school during the year.  I was going to put a song as background but then I friend told me that it would probably get the school in trouble as it is not licensed for that.  Mind you I was going to give it away as a gift to all the kids, but upon further reflection I decided to put a midi track as the song.  In europe there are some songs performed that are released to the public domain, but here in the US any recording made is still held by the performer even if it is released in the public domain elsewhere.  So would the kid's parents sue the school, probably not, but if something happens and there's an unhappy parent, I didn't want to be part of the fuel.

In the matter of defunct companies, the rights always go some creditor, at times it's another company that buys the rights and other times it's a bank, but someone always holds the copyright, although at times nobody knows they do.
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In the matter of defunct companies, the rights always go some creditor, at times it's another company that buys the rights and other times it's a bank, but someone always holds the copyright, although at times nobody knows they do.


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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2011, 10:34:26 PM »

There are exceptions, of course. When GCE – which had been bought out by Milton Bradley – failed, the copyright holders of the Vectrex video game released all of the hardware and software to the public, as long as no one used it for profit. That was decades ago, and there is still a thriving Vectrex community making new games for the old system and selling multi-carts containing all of the old games etc, and it's all legal.
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2011, 01:08:51 AM »

WMS and stern pinball post rom files on there own site and how is asking some to brun the files to a chip to up date your own game Illegal?
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2011, 01:14:40 AM »

WMS and stern pinball post rom files on there own site and how is asking some to brun the files to a chip to up date your own game Illegal?

Please read the entire thread. The question has already been answered.

And even if there were no legal issues, the terms of service of this site clearly state it's not allowed here.
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