65-3 error code on a Sizzling Sevens

[amusement]

Hello all,
I dropped off a sizzling 7' at a friend of mine and was showing him how to remove the money from the validator we played it a few times as I was packing up to go he asked what the other key was for I told him its a jackpot reset key.
No sooner he turned the key and the machine went to 65 3. I went home look on the help board here tried the door open turn key get to 65 1 hold in reset button and it just goes back to 65 3.
When I walk up to the machine I opened the door turned on the power the machine goes to 65 3 I put in the rest key (door open) turn one time reads 65 1
Push and hold the little white rest button (door open) the 65 1 will go away for a sec then it comes back on 65 3.
If I hold the white button in it takes about 6 sec and 65 3 comes up.
When I took the board home the first time I did read to pull the cmos chip Did that!
I did read to short the batt for a sec did that.....
Not sure what to do next.
Please help if ya can...
Thanks, Dave

[knagl]

I can't say that I've heard of a 65 loop, but if you have a clear chip available then this might be an okay time to use it.  Do you have a clear chip available?

[poppo]

When I walk up to the machine I opened the door turned on the power the machine goes to 65 3 I put in the rest key (door open) turn one time reads 65 1

Have you tried turning the jackpot key when on the 65_3 with the door closed and latched?  I seem to recall running into this once, but don't recall what I did to fix it (but I did not use a clear).

Under the error guide for 65_3,  it says "Turn jackpot reset key to continue power-up procedure." which to me means the door should be closed.

[stayouttadabunker]

...Under the error guide for 65_3,  it says "Turn jackpot reset key to continue power-up procedure." which to me means the door should be closed.

He will get a 65-2, then he will have to open the door and press the test button for a few seconds and be back in business!


I had that one this morning...lol

[amusement]

yes I have a clear chip I have never used it..............?#2 I turned the key with the door closed and I get 65-1 I have not seen 65-2 yet.

Thanks for the help..

[idesign]

...Under the error guide for 65_3,  it says "Turn jackpot reset key to continue power-up procedure." which to me means the door should be closed.

He will get a 65-2, then he will have to open the door and press the test button for a few seconds and be back in business!


I had that one this morning...lol

Bunker, I had a bowel movement too this morning....does that count?

[stayouttadabunker]

Yes if it helps! 

Anyways, it sounds like the [65-3] skipped right to the [65-1] which is good.
Now, all you gotta do is open the door and press the little white test button.
The reels should do their maiden spin and when you close the door, it ought to be ready for play!

[amusement]

When I walk up to the machine I opened the door turned on the power the machine goes to 65 3 I put in the rest key (door open) turn one time reads 65 1
Push and hold the little white rest button (door open) the 65 1 will go away for a sec then it comes back on 65 3.
If I hold the white button in it takes about 6 sec and 65 3 comes up.
When I took the board home the first time I did read to pull the cmos chip Did that!
I did read to short the batt for a sec did that.....
Not sure what to do next.

[poppo]

When I walk up to the machine I opened the door turned on the power the machine goes to 65 3 I put in the rest key (door open) turn one time reads 65 1

Ok, why don't you try powering it up with the plug (i.e. the machine already turned on inside and the door already closed). Then when the 65_3 comes up, turn the jackpot reset key with the door still closed and see what happens. 

[putts5205]

NEW TO THIS SO PLEASE DON"T TRY UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE CHIMES IN. I just finished up a hacked slant top. It was set for free play with no coins by jumping the coin in optics to the change button. Anyhow I was having trouble doing a Max credits pay out. My Coin door optics were also bypassed. When I would use the clear chips after an unsuccessful credit otions change and lock up on payouts over the credit limit I found if I used the door optics in the closed mode but then reached in through the bottom door and pressed the test button while displaying 65-1. it would allow me to continue past the 65-1. If I tried to just "close the door" by hooking the optics up it wouldn't continue to game mode. My machine si always displaying door open on the candle though.

Maybe try unscrewing your door optics and holding them shut manually then pressing the Test button. AGAIN this may not be a good solution for you, my machine did not appear to be the norm but it worked for me. Also I found I had to use the actaul optics not just a bypass switch. There must be some sort of "pulse" that it reads.

  

[amusement]

If I turn the key with the power on and the door closed it will go to 65-1 if I turn it again it will go threw the norm cycle......

[poppo]

If I turn the key with the power on and the door closed it will go to 65-1 if I turn it again it will go threw the norm cycle......

What do you mean 'the normal cycle'?

If it's still acting up try it in this order.

1. Unplug machine with the internal power switch on and the door closed and latched.
2. Plug in the machine. If you get a 65_3, turn the jackpot reset key (with the door closed and latched)
3. If you get a 65_1 or a 65_2, open the door and press the self test button for a few seconds.
4. Close the door.

[amusement]

sorry new at this norm cycle 65-1 the 50 the 9999999 99 then 88888-88 or something like that until it comes back to 65-3.
So I power up the machine @ the plug with the door closed it goes to 65-3
I open the door hit the little white reset button (hold it for a few sec) 65-1 goes away for a sec then back to 65-3.

[poppo]

sorry new at this norm cycle 65-1 the 50 the 9999999 99 then 88888-88 or something like that until it comes back to 65-3.

Whoa. That doesn't sound right. Or at least I don't recall it displaying any numbers like that.  

Are you sure the CMOS is in the right way and there are no bent pins on it?

Also are you doing all of this in the original machine or a different one? I ask because the MPU data is tied to the EEPROM data on the motherboard in the machine.

[amusement]

yes sir double checked that and all the connections................

I was told if you keep turning the key it will step threw the program modes I was assuming that is what the other numbers were.

I got a call from Roger the slot tech around here he said he would put the board in another s plus and clear it for me and reset everthing.

[stayouttadabunker]

Hey amusement!.
Invite Roger here to newlifegames!
I'd like to hear what he says about these unusual numbers being displayed on your reel glass display.

[amusement]

will do thanks for all the help...............Amusement (AKA Dave)

[poppo]

I was told if you keep turning the key it will step threw the program modes I was assuming that is what the other numbers were.

Turning the reset key will get you into accounting mode, but you should not be 'keep turning it' for this issue. It is a one time turn.

I got a call from Roger the slot tech around here he said he would put the board in another s plus and clear it for me and reset everthing.

The possible problem with putting it in another machine is it will 'sync' the EEPROM and CMOS of that machine. If the EEPROM is an 'older format' on the original machine (the reason for the 65_3), then you may still be back to square one when the MPU is put back in the original machine. The purpose of a clear chip is to clear BOTH the EEPROM and CMOS. Just pulling the CMOS on the MPU would clear that half of the equation.  Keep in mind the EEPROM in on the motherboard (the board the MPU plugs into). In other words I don't see what sending off just the MPU will accomplish (other than to just see if the MPU is bad).

Also the 'primary' way to clear the 65_3 is with a SET chip. But again, it needs to be mated with the EEPROM of the machine the MPU will be in, or it will accomplish nothing, since it's the EEPROM that is getting updated with the SET.

In any case keep us updated.

[amusement]

OK I went to rogers place he fired up the machine it went to 65-3 he turned the key got it to 65-1 did the reset button went back to 65-3 turned it off
then back on with the door shut turned the key door still shut went to 65-1 opened the door hit reset back to 65-3 then he pulled the board at the bottom
mumbled a few words soldered a small 4 legged IC put a new one in (I see it was @ U1 on the board) put it all back with a clear chip in.
reset the game .25 turned on the bill acceptor and some other things I am not sure what they were.
I asked him what all the numbers were I was getting when I would keep turning the key I was told I was in the accounting mode.
All good in the hood now......Whew
Thank you all for your help.
Again I say what a great site this is.......Dave

[poppo]

Ok, so you took the whole machine there and he replaced the EEPROM right?

Glad it's working, but usually you will get a 65_0 when the EEPROM is bad. I wonder if just doing a clear (before replacing the EEPROM) would have solved it.

[knagl]

I wonder if just doing a clear (before replacing the EEPROM) would have solved it.

What a great, ahem, reply #1, ahem, idea!        


I know I would have started there first, rather than dealing with changing out the EEPROM.

[poppo]

In all fairness, he did not have a clear chip (that I know of), so we were trying all of the other tricks. However once one was available, I  agree that would have been the next step. As it stands now we don't know if the EEPROM really was bad or not.

[stayouttadabunker]

Glad roger got it going for ya Amusement...!!!  
For future reference, the chip at location "U1" on the motherboard  is a 8-pin 24C04 eeprom chip.
Poppo understand more than I, exactly what that chip is for and what it stores.
The ONLY way to erase it easily  is to use a CLEAR chip.