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« on: December 16, 2013, 11:38:38 PM »
S-2000 machine w/502 board. No green battery. Machine works fine with battery @ 2.80v  Went to change battery to coin battery w/ holder 3.22v and I get no display and red led on mpu blinks. Put old battery back in and machine works fine. Strange, any thoughts on this one.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 11:45:50 PM »
How about the new battery without the holder? 

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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2013, 12:09:54 AM »
I don't have any new solder in batteries, just coin. I have always replaced the original yellow battery with holder and coin battery and never had any problems. I did try another holder, same problem.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2013, 12:12:43 AM »
Double check your polarity
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2013, 12:15:08 AM »
Flip your battery over. P.B.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2013, 12:26:40 AM »
I do have the + and - correct. I just tried another coin battery that was 2.84 and got the same results. So I do not think it has anything to do with the extra volts. For some reason the board doesn't like the coin battery I guess???   
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2013, 12:42:14 AM »
You must have a multimeter, remove the board from the tray and take a reading on the back side of the board. ( I think you will get a better reading on the back side ) And NO the added voltage will not harm anything, I use the old stock of 3.6 V battery's left over from the S+ days.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2013, 12:49:28 AM »
I was referring to the battery holder maybe being in backwards
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2013, 12:54:51 AM »
I did have a used yellow battery on another board that read 3.20. So I soldered it in and the machine works. I tried 2 different new battery holders and batteries still would not work. These are the same holders and Panasonic batteries  that I always used. The board must not like coin batteries???
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 01:10:31 AM »
Can't be the battery, it will have to be a polarity issue. Other than how they are attached there is no difference between a clip in and solder in battery. Have you checked your battery holder for a short? Could be bad
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 01:14:06 AM »
can you post a pic of the non working coin battery and holder mounted on the board?
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2013, 01:20:53 AM »
I already have the other yellow battery soldered in. I have replaced many original yellow batteries with the holder and coin battery and this is the 1st time running into this. If I get time in the next day or so I may try to figure this out by putting in a 3rd holder and checking volts on the back of the board as Buss mentioned. Thanks and K+ to all for your input, I will let you know what I find out. Ed
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2013, 01:22:28 AM »
By the way had to get cowboy off that triple 6s
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2013, 01:27:56 AM »
Lol, I'll give ya one back just for taking care of that +1 (Karma, or whatever)
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2013, 11:06:33 PM »
Got it working with the coin battery. Apparently the coin battery wasn't making contact. I use a thicker battery br2325 w/ 560ma so I have to bend the + tab to accommodate for the thicker battery and I didn't have it bent enough.  Duh! Duh!   Thanks again for the help.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2013, 02:39:16 PM »
the correct battery holder for the type used in the S-2000  can be purchased at Mouser Electronics.

Made by Eagle Plastics:  part # 122-2523-GR    23mm thru hole black holder.     .78 each.


Hope this helps

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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2013, 05:58:41 PM »
Jim,  Those are the battery holders that I use and purchase from Mouser.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2013, 06:29:39 PM »
well now you got me scratching my head  Scratch Head

I use a BR2330  COIN cell battery    3volt,  255mah,  23.0 x3.0 mm,   fits that holder like a glove.    yes

you said you use a BR2325   WHICH IS A  3 volt,  165mah,   23.0 x2.5mm  should be loose in that holder     Duh!

a CR2354   IS  a 3 volt,  560mah,   23.0 x 5.4 mm     should have to force it in to that holder.    frying pan



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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 06:52:08 PM »
To use the CR2354  you need to bend the + tab so that the battery goes in straight and not end up on an angle. I use a small needle nose. I use these because of the higher mah so they last longer. The one in question I hadn't bent the tab enough so it wasn't making contact.


CORRECTION,  A few posts back I posted the size as br should have been cr.
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