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Title: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 14, 2010, 03:17:21 AM
Anybody know what this is for?
It has an SB101451 and a RB000003 BOOT chip in it.
It's fairly new really... :96-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Brianzz on December 14, 2010, 09:07:11 AM
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Here's a crappy picture from IGT


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 14, 2010, 01:11:57 PM
Thanks Brianzz!  :284-  :293-
I'll add it to the documentation in my brain... :96-
It doesn't have sockets for the SG chips?
What's up wid that?  :103-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Brianzz on December 14, 2010, 01:18:18 PM
SG chips are practically just an operating system so the BOOT chip probably replaced them


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 14, 2010, 01:20:54 PM
SG chips are practically just an operating system so the BOOT chip probably replaced them

That makes sense...the only logical next step in the evolution was to add hard drives...


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Brianzz on December 14, 2010, 01:22:57 PM
I think flash would be the next step.. lots of stuff can go wrong in hard drives.. which I prove on a daily basis with PC's  :96-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: brichter on December 14, 2010, 02:37:29 PM
I think flash would be the next step.. lots of stuff can go wrong in hard drives.. which I prove on a daily basis with PC's  :96-

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I prove the same thing on a daily basis!   :200- :200-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Foster on December 14, 2010, 02:57:03 PM
I see a few other IC's on the memory sub board they are either Flash EEPROM's and/or OTP ROM's and replace the Sound SIMM and DIP versions of the Game and Version IC's

IGT uses One Time Programmable versions of the Base 27C4002(4096) Game 27C801(080) Version 27C1001 IC's for 501, 502 and 504 boards (only numbers I know)

Sound Memory Flash memory (basically a fast EEPROM) does not need to be OTP since it can not influence or determine game outcome.

I suspect the CMOS RAM is still on the MPU since that is where the batteries are.

Due to the complexity of the board all the memory chips soldered on the memory board could be Flash EEPROM's without too much risk of being reprogrammed in the field without some expensive hardware.



Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Hvymetal on December 14, 2010, 03:52:28 PM
Yes it's a flash board for a 044 board, it still uses a base chip for the particular paytable & I believe the OS is contained on the boot chips because I know (at least with video) the GKB00008 is fairly universal. The E square is located on the MPU or backplane still. Be carefull 044 Flash boards are extremely susceptible to static electricity.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 14, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
What do these boards go for?
They're like going on 4 years old now.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: PWRSTROKE on December 14, 2010, 10:44:16 PM
This is a "R" board.  This is not a .044 board.  Most R-boards are used on s-2000 enhanced processors.  This is what igt switched to as far as the s-2000 based games goes.  B.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 14, 2010, 10:52:29 PM
PWRSTROKE,
If you wanted one, what would you pay for it?


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on December 15, 2010, 12:37:54 AM
Here is the s2000 machine that this board came from


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Brianzz on December 15, 2010, 12:52:19 AM
Lots of clones of that chip... the only way IGT knows to come up with new games is to clone something already on the floor it seems


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: PWRSTROKE on December 15, 2010, 01:02:42 AM
PWRSTROKE,
If you wanted one, what would you pay for it?
Stout,  Depending on game etc. it varies.  Just to get a enhanced processor and a R board to boot no more than 1-dead president--(100.00).  Again theme dictates that price dramatically.  That is just pretty much what I have seen.  If your R board had a Hot title the dough would be more that is what I am trying to say.  Also Merry X-Mas---B.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: PWRSTROKE on December 15, 2010, 01:10:01 AM
Lots of clones of that chip... the only way IGT knows to come up with new games is to clone something already on the floor it seems
They do and have been in the cloning business for quite some time.  Can be hard to keep track of.  They are still "Manuplating" the s-2000 platform to a extent before they are done with it.  It is quite expandable so who knows when that will happen.   All gears at IGT now for the most part are all AVP driven.  B.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 15, 2010, 01:31:47 AM
PWRSTROKE,
If you wanted one, what would you pay for it?
Stout,  Depending on game etc. it varies.  Just to get a enhanced processor and a R board to boot no more than 1-dead president--(100.00).  Again theme dictates that price dramatically.  That is just pretty much what I have seen.  If your R board had a Hot title the dough would be more that is what I am trying to say.  Also Merry X-Mas---B.

lol..."no more than 1 dead prez..."
FBI & Secret Service will be watching us now... :96-

Thanks B !
Have a Merry Christmas!


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: StatFreak on December 15, 2010, 09:18:56 PM
PWRSTROKE,
If you wanted one, what would you pay for it?
Stout,  Depending on game etc. it varies.  Just to get a enhanced processor and a R board to boot no more than 1-dead president--(100.00).  Again theme dictates that price dramatically.  That is just pretty much what I have seen.  If your R board had a Hot title the dough would be more that is what I am trying to say.  Also Merry X-Mas---B.

lol..."no more than 1 dead prez..."
FBI & Secret Service will be watching us now... :96-

Thanks B !
Have a Merry Christmas!

The only problem is that Ben Franklin was never president. :5-  :30- :72- :72- :72-

Although most modern (1934 on) U.S. currency denominations have portraits of dead presidents, the following do not:

$10         Alexander Hamilton (First Secretary of the Treasury)
$100        Benjamin Franklin (Statesman, Printer/Publisher, Inventor, Scientist...)
$10,000   Salmon Portland Chase (25th Secretary of the Treasury (under Lincoln), Originator of our national banking system, Governor of Ohio, Supreme Court Justice)


The rest are all dead presidents:

$1           George Washington (1st)
$2           Thomas Jefferson (3rd)
$5           Abraham Lincoln (16th)
$20         Andrew Jackson (7th)
$50         Ulysses S. Grant (18th)
$500       William McKinley (25th)
$1,000     Grover Cleaveland (22nd)
$5,000     James Madison (4th)
$100,000  Woodrow Wilson (28th)


Stat :31-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 15, 2010, 10:08:52 PM
lol...Statfreak...you NEVER cease to amaze me...lol  :131-
ONLY you would have noticed that! :96-  :293-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: knagl on December 15, 2010, 10:27:58 PM
Lots of clones of that chip... the only way IGT knows to come up with new games is to clone something already on the floor it seems

In their defense, it's a lot cheaper and easier to create new graphics and slap them on the old, already approved software.

I think that's about the only time you'll hear me defending IGT.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: StatFreak on December 15, 2010, 10:46:40 PM
Lots of clones of that chip... the only way IGT knows to come up with new games is to clone something already on the floor it seems

In their defense, it's a lot cheaper and easier to create new graphics and slap them on the old, already approved software.

I think that's about the only time you'll hear me defending IGT.

As much as I hate to admit it..   :212-

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SF :31-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on December 16, 2010, 01:02:16 AM
Yes I have that machine and I have no clue how to do a clear and reset on it. Any clues?


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 16, 2010, 02:51:24 AM
My 1st thought is: why?
If you clear it - you have to reset EVERYTHING 'cause nobody likes IGT's default settings anyways... :96-

If I had a valid reason for doing a ram clear for this board, I'd use a higher, more modern clear chip.
Which one that would be exactly - I haven't a clue.
Why? because there's no SG chips on that thing?

I'm quoting from a manual on clear chips>>>

"IVC000224 is for chips higher than SG000363's"

Now, would I use this clear chip on this board? ...hmm...yeah.... :72-
But I'd might wait for the experts to chime in and see if they'd have a
PSR sheet for this SB chip you've got in there?
might be some more pertinent & important info about this thing... :89-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Buzz on December 16, 2010, 05:56:57 AM
Darell  One of the other members came up with this idea for a S 2000 and It works. Don't do a clear, just switch the two cmos chips, works like a clear but the only thing you lose are the credits on the machine and what ever error you have. 


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 16, 2010, 11:10:56 AM
I don't see one that can be removed on the MPU but,
he might have one on the backplane board?


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on December 16, 2010, 01:59:23 PM
First of all thanks for your help. I will check it out and let you know what result I find.
Thanks again


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on January 06, 2011, 01:09:39 AM
Well I finally fixed this game and it is up and running.
I used a newer clear chip and was able to clear the thing.
it works great.
that was the problem, it would not clear with the older version clear chip.
thanks for everyones help


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on January 06, 2011, 01:54:40 AM
Oh that's good !
It was the clear chip huh?
That's great...at least know we know what to do when
we get one of those machines... :89-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on January 07, 2011, 12:41:05 AM
Bunker,
thanks for all your help


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on April 11, 2011, 01:07:56 AM
Well I finally got back to this game, and I have cleared it with the 224 but I cannot get the 2 amber lights with any key chip that I have and it will not allow me to set up the printer.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: OhioGaming on April 11, 2011, 01:10:27 AM
What happens when you leave it on for about 20 - 30 seconds with the key chip in? Do you get more than 2 lights?


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Bettor Slots on April 11, 2011, 01:15:37 AM
Are you using a Key 45 ?


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on April 11, 2011, 01:27:27 AM
I have used the Key 45 and never get the amber lights.
I do get the amber lights when I clear the machine but not with the key chip.
I can program it if I go to the key chip menu but it will not allow to set up the printer, it stays disabled.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Bettor Slots on April 11, 2011, 02:02:47 AM
bad chip? bad board? bad mix of chips?  what are the numbers on your chips...SB, SG, V ?


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on April 11, 2011, 03:04:28 AM
Their are no sg chips or version chips on the board it is a flash board,
It only has a boot chip,sb chip and a slot for a ss chip. No other spots where they go.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on April 11, 2011, 03:06:43 AM
POST a picture of your board    :211-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on April 11, 2011, 03:10:35 AM
Their is a picture at the beginning of this post started by bunker


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Bettor Slots on April 11, 2011, 03:22:32 AM
I missed that picture at the beginning.  That's an "R-Board"....which stands for You-RRRR-screwed, unless you can find someone that can get you the special key chip needed for those....very hard to get those.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Bettor Slots on April 11, 2011, 03:25:30 AM
My advice...take that SB chip and throw in into another machine and run it with some 363's and GX1 chips and see if it plays.  If so, then just change out the mother and main board on the machine in question.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on April 11, 2011, 03:32:39 AM
Jim,the game works I just cannot activate the printer,I can change the mother board and use another processing board and hopefully that will work.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Bettor Slots on April 11, 2011, 03:35:45 AM
Yeah...that's the problem...special Key Chip needed to enable printer or change percentages of pay out, etc.  Problem might be though when you swap the mother and main board out you will lose the custom sounds flashed to that board.  Are you getting unique sounds now playing it in it's current state?


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on April 11, 2011, 03:44:32 AM
I missed that picture at the beginning.  That's an "R-Board"....which stands for You-RRRR-screwed, unless you can find someone that can get you the special key chip needed for those....very hard to get those.
    great post I just love your reply . Nothing like getting a You-RRRR-screwed  to make your day      :97- :97- :97- :259-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on April 11, 2011, 03:50:05 AM
That did not have any enhanced sound so that might
Be the best solution is to change them both. Thanks for all your help with this.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: blueridgeslots on April 11, 2011, 04:23:55 AM
Darell, you need a RBK00001 Keychip for that particular R board, using the 224 Clear is just a backwards way around clearing it, and the Key 45 is just not correct, the RBK Keychips are a combination Clear and Key in one, and is accessed via the Key Menu, too bad the CHIP WHORES on eBay don't have it or you could get it for the cost of a cup of coffee, well until manufacturers see them up there probably anyway, I am not saying those sellers are IDIOTS for putting pics up there but then again if the shoe fits!!!!


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on April 11, 2011, 05:07:11 AM
Jim,you are sure up late,I am waiting at the hospital waiting for my daughter to have her first baby or I would be asleep by now. Thank you for the information, it seams the most logical way to handle it is to just change out the mother board and processing board.thank you


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Foster on April 11, 2011, 05:15:09 AM
IF you have one use a legacy adapter, with the right chips on it.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: blueridgeslots on April 11, 2011, 05:17:13 AM
I don't think you can do that and the game work, the R board is the main software there and the SB is just the paytable, but could try it, I never have, I can obtain the correct Key for it, will send a email, best wishes on the Grandbaby


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: blueridgeslots on April 11, 2011, 05:23:46 AM
IF you have one use a legacy adapter, with the right chips on it.

I think it is misunderstood that the Enhanced "R" board is not needed here, that is the Software for the game theme, even though it uses a SB chip, either SB001000 or Specific SB on this particular one, you are not just replacing the Game Chips, Version Chip and Sound Simm, the reason for the Flash Board is for  more memory and functions, but hey if the SB does work in a non Enhanced CPU and the game plays then I have been schooled as my buds say at the dice table


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: CaptainHappy on April 11, 2011, 07:06:10 AM
Darell, you need a RBK00001 Keychip for that particular R board, using the 224 Clear is just a backwards way around clearing it, and the Key 45 is just not correct, the RBK Keychips are a combination Clear and Key in one, and is accessed via the Key Menu, too bad the CHIP WHORES on eBay don't have it or you could get it for the cost of a cup of coffee, well until manufacturers see them up there probably anyway, I am not saying those sellers are IDIOTS for putting pics up there but then again if the shoe fits!!!!
I don't think you can do that and the game work, the R board is the main software there and the SB is just the paytable, but could try it, I never have, I can obtain the correct Key for it, will send a email, best wishes on the Grandbaby

Darell,

It sounds like Jim already has you taken care of as he usually does so well for our members, but if he can't get you the eprom, let me know and I can see if I can get one for you! :89- :71- :89-

And as Jim said so well: best wishes on the Grandbaby!!! :244- :244- :244-

CaptainHappy :95-


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: reho33 on April 11, 2011, 10:31:32 AM
There's one for sale in this list: http://jackpot7.freeyellow.com/page16.html


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: slots4home on April 11, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
Thanks to everyone for their help, hopefully it will all be resolved. Still at the hospital no baby yet.


Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Brianzz on April 11, 2011, 01:56:17 PM
$40 for a binary? Dayum.. I thought there was good money in medicare fraud... I'm in the wrong business.  :279-

And a member here to boot  :182-