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I just got back from staying at Fantasy Springs Indian casino and had a chance to check out some of the new Game King machines and was impressed with the advances in software from the one that I own. So my question is... what would it take to put that software into my 1998, 13" monitor cabinet or is it impossible.
Thanks, Jim

It depends on what software you were looking at.  If it's 044 software I don't think the older 13" GK cabinets can be easily upgraded with 044 hardware to support it.  If it was 3902 based you can upgrade your software and MPU board (if necessary).

But basically to get it to have the newest GK games is impossible even with the 3902 software? Or is it? I saw GK's with slots with bonus rounds and keno like cleopatra keno whack gives free games if the last number drawn hits one of yours, stuff like that. Impossible?
Thanks, Jim

While we're talking about upgrades, I was real impressed by the advancement in Bally software. I also have a bartop Bally from 2004, Gamemaker 7000 I believe. What a difference between that and the new software. Any chance I could upgrade this?

Okay, since i'm new to this, here's the info that I found.

Game program set version: G0002142
Game program set CRC: 4db6

Config program version: M0000888
Config program CRC: A522

Sound set version: SWC00046
Sound set CRC: 6F43

Touch screen version info:
Itsf0002 28-08-96
Bill validator version info:
WBA-12/13 024 V3.35-29
Bill validator program signiture:
85F3
Main processor board serial number:
0-2597-10351

Can you tell me what software I'm running... 3902 or 044? Anything else about this machine if you can. Thanks, Jim

That's Game King 4.3, it's EPROM based.  It will run on a 3502/2802/3902 board.  Look at your MPU board, if it has simm slots it's a 3902.  3802 and earlier boards didn't have them. 

There is newer software you can run if you have a 3902 board.  Game King 5.0, 5.3, Super Times Pay poker, Multistrike Poker, Spin Poker, etc. These all use simms in addition to eproms.  Game King 5.0 has some newer Keno games and slots, but I'm not sure if it's the same as what you saw. 

If the main menu had tabs for different games, slots, poker, keno, etc then it's GK 6 (or higher) and requires a 044 board.

Pardon my ignorance but what does a simm slot look like?
Thanks, Jim

Here's a pic of the board. I think maybe it's a 3902 due to the long slots that are like ram slots. I guess they're probably what you're referring to. If so how many games per slot can you add and at what price per game?
Thanks, Jim

Yep, that's a 3902 board.  Sorry, SIMM stands for single in-line memory module, they are the three long sockets in your photo.  Instead of RAM though they hold flash memory simms. 

IGT game software isn't memory slot dependent, you have one overall software version (or game) that uses the slots as necessary.  For instance Game King 5.0 which has poker, keno, and slots uses a base eprom, four game EPROMS (GME), a CGF Simm (goes in the horizontal simm socket under your sound card), two Pixel (PXL) simms, and one sound (SNDF) simm.  You have to have them all installed or it won't run (except for the sound simm). 

Your sound board is an older EPROM based card.  For newer software you'll need one that has a single simm socket on it. 

Simm based sound cards seem to sell from ~$25 to $40, software depends on title, but most seem to be in the $125 - $200 range.  Hope that helps.   Check with Jim @ Blueridge if you're looking for a particular software title, he usually has them in stock.   

Thanks. How do I know which games come with which software package? If I could determine that, I would be able to decide which one I would like to upgrade to.
Thanks for all this good info, Jim

With credit to Jim at Blueridge slots:

Games on GK 5.0 - 12 Game Enabled

Jacks or Better
Bonus Poker
Double Bonus
Double Double Bonus
Deuce's Wild
Joker Poker
Spot Keno
Power Keno
Cleo Keno
Multicard Keno
Caveman Keno
Cleo Slot 9 Reel
Super 8 9 Reel
Leopard Spot 9 Reel

GAMES ON GK 5.3 - 12 GAME ENABLED

Jacks or Better
Bonus Poker
Double Bonus
Double Double Bonus
Deuce's Wild
Joker Poker
Bonus Poker Deluxe
Super Ace Bonus
White Hot Aces
Super Double Double Bonus
Double Double Bonus Plus
Shockwave Poker
Aces Bonus
Triple Bonus
Super Double Bonus
Triple Double Bonus
Aces & Faces
Double Aces & Faces
Double Double Aces & Faces
Double Deuce
Loose Deuce
Deuces Bonus
Deuces Double Bonus
Deuces Super Bonus
One-Eyed Jacks
Deuces Joker
Spot Keno
Multicard Keno
Caveman Keno
Ace Deuce Bonus
Wild 7's
USA Poker
Double Joker
Aces & Eights
Black Jack
Black Jack Bonus

That is a good question.  Here's what I have for GK 5.0M (multigame) and 5.3P (Poker).  There may be other variants.

Short version...if you like Blackjack and don't want slots, you'll need 5.3P (which I have).  If you want slots and a lot of Keno and don't want Blackjack, get 5.0.

Thanks,
Jason

Is that all the games on the 5.0? I like the keno but would want more poker as well and at least one black jack. I don't know which software I have now but it has 59 games but it's mostly all poker 3 keno 2 slots and one blackjack.
I like the cleopatra keno and other things but... hmmm, is it wotrh it?

If you have it all, it's 4.3.  I'll be making a video of my 5.3P game soon.  I wish somebody would shoot a video of 5.0, because I've been kicking this version around too.

Jason

You have GK 4.3 right now.  Attached is the game list for it.

I don't have a video, but here's a couple of 5.0 screen pics.
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A couple more..
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That looks like the cleopatra keno I was playing. Does it do the bonus twelve free games deal? Is there really only 15 or so games in the 5.0?
Thanks, Jim

Oh yeah I see it. If I decide to switch, what is required and is it easy to switch back if I want to for any reason?
Thanks, Jim

Yeah, it's easy to switch back.  You'll just need to swap the game chips and sound board out and set up your game options.

Awesome. Is it multi-denomination? The screen shot only shows .05. That's a deal breaker if not. I saw a machine that had the cleopatra keno and a caveman plus. Is that a different package?
Thanks, Jim

Yeah, it's multi-denomination.  I don't have a caveman plus.

Does this software need a hi-resolution monitor? Mine seems clear and fine running 4.3. What do you think?

I still use a CRT in mine.  LCD will be in it eventually.

Jason

GK 5.0 promo says it has Caveman Keno, but not Plus.  See attached promo.

Thanks, I had seen that surfing the net and that's why I wonder what version game I was playing. On the Cleopatra keno, when the last number hit, it placed a scarib over the number indicating which one was the last number chosen. On the screen shots I've seen of 5.0, none have had that.
When I mentioned the number of games and what they were that I had, someone knew the version/software package I am using... is there a way to find out what games are with every version/software package?
I just wonder if the version I was playing was more advanced than the 5.0 and I'll be let down a bit... although it does look quite correct from the screen shot (except the scarib thing).
Thanks, Jim

Believe the newer versions have the Cleo Keno with the scarib over the last number, the 5.0 as seen above shows last number drawn. I actually prefer the 5.0 as the last number drawn is displayed in the same location each play. The 5.0 Caveman is a step above the 4.3 Caveman. The 4.3 Caveman can get real annoying with the same screeching sound each spin. As far as keno goes the autoplay option is great!

Took a pic off of eBay of the 6.2 version that I believe is on the 044 board. You can see the tabs for poker, keno, slots and blackjack. This version allows many more games to be enabled!

Can I get that 6.2 version into an older 13" monitor cabinet that has a 3902 board right now or will my cabinet not support it? Do I need a different unit alltogether?
Thanks, Jim

Another curiosity....would one need a double row button deck for 6.x or will the games work with a single row? 

Jason

The 13" cabinet (and similar 19") will not support the Enhanced Platform (well without MAJOR modifications), this is due to the I/O configuration, you need a 17" or 19" I+ or GK+ cabinet

Single Row is correct configuration for GK 6.0 (or 6.2)