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Title: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on February 11, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Question . Can i change CPU and door and cabnet Io cards  and start up machine without turning  jackpot reset key . if i want to quick change games  . Will cpu retain memory  during the trade from what was programed into it before swap. thanks for input


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: Railroad94 on February 11, 2011, 01:37:15 AM
I think you can change the mpu and just have the normal errors (miss match) and such. You will loose your progressive set-up but why
would you change the I/O cards ?


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 11, 2011, 01:41:26 AM
...and 40 more posts of how to set everything back after he uses a  "RAM Reset"...lol
Can you please tell me one reason why you'd want to clear the memory?  :25-


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on February 11, 2011, 02:29:14 AM
-i did not mean a chip clear i meant  turning the jackpot reset key  :279- :279- touchy touchy


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 11, 2011, 02:50:00 AM
Hey! You've been here long enough to know we have  :209-   :186- eyes!  :96-

just kidding ya!  :294-


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: StatFreak on February 11, 2011, 02:58:27 AM
I believe that swapping the MPU board along with the EEPROM (which might first have to be modified to add a socket) would keep all of the books and settings together. You would then have a separate EEPROM for each game/board setup.

I'm not sure if that's all you need with the S2000, but I think so. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.


Stat :31-


P.S. If you're mentioning the IO cards because you want to change back and forth between singe and double bet decks, and possibly between 3, 4, and 5 reel setups, and games with and without the LED displays on the left side of the reel glass, then I'll defer to the experts. However, I think that those types of swaps are not trivial and that you might be better off with multiple machines if you plan on making such changes frequently.


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: Yoeddy1 on February 11, 2011, 03:04:54 AM
Hey! You've been here long enough to know we have  :209-   :186- eyes!  :96-

just kidding ya!  :294-

Not Betty Davis eyes?

LOL!

Jason


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on February 11, 2011, 03:10:16 AM
OK lets start over . if i have differant games (complete  CPU with all chips ) and install in a different machine will this be a simple swap or do i have to reset anything else other than glass and (minty reel strips) sorry Jason couldn't help my self  


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 11, 2011, 03:21:27 AM
do you have a keychip?
You will need it if you want to change some default settings.
Otherwise, no...you won't need to change anything because when
you install a game, it defaults to it's original settings after you clear chip it.

If you do not clear chip the machine, it will use some ( not all ) of the settings
that were previously on both the MPU and the machines' backplane prom.

I would 1st install the MPU with the different chips you've put in it and see what errors come up.
Errors are very easy to get rid of when you the help of NLG and all it's members!


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on February 11, 2011, 03:27:50 AM
Thanks . i didn't know if anything was stored on the Io cards . or if it was all in the CPU or as you say backplane prom


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: StatFreak on February 11, 2011, 04:19:10 AM
OK lets start over . if i have differant games (complete  CPU with all chips ) and install in a different machine will this be a simple swap or do i have to reset anything else other than glass and (minty reel strips) sorry Jason couldn't help my self 

I believe that swapping the MPU board along with the EEPROM (which might first have to be modified to add a socket) would keep all of the books and settings together. You would then have a separate EEPROM for each game/board setup.

I'm not sure if that's all you need with the S2000, but I think so. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.


Stat :31-


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 11, 2011, 04:22:07 AM
Stat's right but that little chip has to be in a socket...
Because it's way in the back in between metal walls about 1-1/2inches apart -
it's not easy to get out unless you have small woman-like hands...


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: StatFreak on February 11, 2011, 05:33:15 AM
Stat's right but theat little chip has to be in a socket...
Because it's way in the back in between metal walls about 1-1/2inches apart -
it's not easy to get out unless you have small woman-like hands...

Has anyone tried a ZIF socket, either regular or low profile?


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: Buzz on February 11, 2011, 06:02:55 AM
David It's just a little 8 leg chip. I don't know if they make a ZiIF that small ( and no I'm not going to try to find one )  Bunker doesn't tell the part that if you remove one screw the whole outer cover of the MPU housing comes off and you have all the room you need to change the chip !!!!!!!!!!!   


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on February 11, 2011, 10:45:51 AM
Stat's right but theat little chip has to be in a socket...
Because it's way in the back in between metal walls about 1-1/2inches apart -
it's not easy to get out unless you have small woman-like hands...
Thanks bunker - now i'm going to have to find another use for the small woman i bought on flea bay  :103-


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: stayouttadabunker on February 11, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
I'm not sh***ing you guys...I've looked everywhere and
they do NOT make ZIF's that small.  :97-

Anyways, I've never taken apart my S2000 in that area yet so
that's good info to know about the MPU cage Buzz!  :89-  :131-

Plunger, small woman aren't good to have - they don't know how to cook.... :96-



Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: StatFreak on February 12, 2011, 03:57:23 AM
I'm not sh***ing you guys...I've looked everywhere and
they do NOT make ZIF's that small.  :97-
...

It makes sense, now that I think about it. They probably figured that it's so easy to remove the small chips that no one would buy them.


...
Plunger, small woman aren't good to have - they don't know how to cook.... :96-

Not necessarily. It only means that they don't know how to eat!   :262-  :127-  :5- :30- :208- :208- :208- :208-


Title: Re: s 2000 cpu exchange
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on February 12, 2011, 02:05:06 PM


...
Plunger, small woman aren't good to have - they don't know how to cook.... :96-

Not necessarily. It only means that they don't know how to eat!   :262-  :127-  :5- :30- :208- :208- :208- :208-
[/quote]  I got her tied up in the basement right now . So if i feed her fast food / donuts and ice cream maybee i could re-list her on flea bay by the pound  :97- :97- :97-