Title: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on March 19, 2011, 11:32:45 PM I got a S+ that had a dead battery (12) code, I installed a new onw and used a set chip to change the denomination to .25. I enabled the dbv per instructions, got to the 61-1 ding then closed the door and turned the reset key one time. The machine works fine with quarters and pays out correct, but the dbv will not light up or take bills, any help on this?
Thanks Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: Foster on March 20, 2011, 12:12:50 AM When you turn the machine on or remove and install the cash can doe the BV cycle?
Look at the left side of the head. any LED's on also be sure the transport is fully seated at the back. if it is not seated the BV will not enable, since it can not cycle the cash can stacker. it helps to reach in and press it down from the left side. Also check SP PSR to see if it needs ID 23 or 22 for BV Switch 1 - 10 off is ID 23 on is ID 22. :172- Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on March 20, 2011, 12:23:53 AM I push the cash stacker all the way in, close the door, it cycles like it is ready to accept bills, but there is a red led light on inside the bill chute. It will take in a bill but sends it back out. Also how do I check the SP PSR? for ID 22 or 23?
Thanks Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: Foster on March 20, 2011, 12:26:31 AM unless you are using a odd or old SP chip it probably is ID 23, but if you post the SP chip number I can check and send you PSR if I have it.
Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on March 20, 2011, 12:28:49 AM sp is 1271
Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: coorslight115 on March 20, 2011, 12:29:33 AM I got a S+ that had a dead battery (12) code, I installed a new onw and used a set chip to change the denomination to .25. I enabled the dbv per instructions, got to the 61-1 ding then closed the door and turned the reset key one time. The machine works fine with quarters and pays out correct, but the dbv will not light up or take bills, any help on this? Thanks Did you use a set 15? if so what SP and SS chips are you using? Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: poppo on March 20, 2011, 12:30:15 AM Also how do I check the SP PSR? for ID 22 or 23? You can always power the machine off and flip DIP switch 10 the opposite way on the bottom of the BV head. You will need to check it anyway once you find out what it should be set to. In case you don't know, all you need to do is take the one screw off the bottom front center of the head bracket to remove it. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: coorslight115 on March 20, 2011, 12:36:46 AM Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: poppo on March 20, 2011, 12:37:42 AM All 10 dip switches should be off (and the other 6 too).
<eidited> since it is taking bills, just spitting them out, the trasport is probably seated ok. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on March 20, 2011, 12:41:02 AM all dip swithes are in the off position
Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: coorslight115 on March 20, 2011, 12:43:30 AM With the set chip did you change the 9-0 to a 9-1? With NO CREDITS on the machine and with a set 15 NOT a set90???
Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on March 20, 2011, 12:45:24 AM it may have had credits on the machine, now that you ask
Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: coorslight115 on March 20, 2011, 12:46:54 AM it may have had credits on the machine, now that you ask Do it again!!!! nothing will take with credits on the machine!!!! There you Go !! Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: StatFreak on March 20, 2011, 12:49:28 AM With the set chip did you change the 9-0 to a 9-1? With NO CREDITS on the machine and with a set 15 NOT a set90??? As long as you're going to run through it again, remember: After you set the denomination to 25, be sure to press the white test button to lock in the change before turning off the machine. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on March 20, 2011, 12:50:34 AM I'll try that in a few minutes, thanks
Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: poppo on March 20, 2011, 12:52:49 AM However he did say it was taking bills, but spitting them back out. If the BV was not enabled, it would not be taking them at all. But he may not have saved the demonination if he powered down after changing it without pressing the self test again.
Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: Foster on March 20, 2011, 12:54:12 AM I wonder if it could be he is using the latest and greatest version of US Currency.
My DBV-200 hates the newer versions. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: coorslight115 on March 20, 2011, 12:55:10 AM However he did say it was taking bill, but spitting them back out. If the BV was not enabled, it would not be taking them. Yes it will take them. He enabled it but it did not know what to do with it because the credits on the machine confused the setup I went thru this about a year ago and 100 posts to get it straight. Clear, set 15 and no credits fixed it. It took bills all along! but gave them back Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: poppo on March 20, 2011, 12:58:57 AM Yes it will take them. He enabled it but it did not know what to do with it because the credits on the machine confused the setup Huh? :103- If he was able to enable it, then the machine had no credits. And no it won't take bills at all if dissabled. I just double checked. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: StatFreak on March 20, 2011, 12:59:29 AM However he did say it was taking bill, but spitting them back out. If the BV was not enabled, it would not be taking them. Yes it will take them. He enabled it but it did not know what to do with it because the credits on the machine confused the setup :103- I've never tried to use a set chip with previous credits on the machine, but since the chip allows the denomination to be changed, I would think that IF it worked, it would also wipe out any previous credits by necessity. It occurs to me that since he changed the battery, one or more of the basic settings might be preventing the machine from taking bills. Once we've confirmed that he set the denomination to 25¢, he should go through the settings. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: poppo on March 20, 2011, 01:03:03 AM :103- I've never tried to use a set chip with previous credits on the machine, but since the chip allows the denomination to be changed, I would think that IF it worked, it would also wipe out any previous credits by necessity. Good point. The set chip always wipes out the credits. It's some settings in the self that you can't change with credits on the machine. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: coorslight115 on March 20, 2011, 01:03:24 AM Well I have heard all this before, Maybe Stat can find the old thread last year where I went thru this. If he comes back and sayes it worked OK....If not next step is a clear then set15. Trust me untill you read the old thread.
Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: poppo on March 20, 2011, 01:05:35 AM Once we've confirmed that he set the denomination to 25ยข, he should go through the settings. Yep. If for some reason the credit limit is 0 it will spit bills back out. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: poppo on March 20, 2011, 01:07:49 AM If not next step is a clear .... Ugh! Clear should be a LAST resort. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: StatFreak on March 20, 2011, 01:09:04 AM Rather than look for the old thread, here is a "saved" post that I have handy in my list of "Quick Replies" :96-
Maybe I should post it in another thread and sticky it? Stat :31- Typical home use settings for the SP1271 family of S+ game chips (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=12179.msg105794#msg105794) <EDIT> I posted the information and stickied it for future reference. Click on the above link to go there. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: poppo on March 20, 2011, 01:15:02 AM Important: All setting changes require 0 credits on the machine before entering setup mode. Yep. No credits for using self test. But I have used the set chip with credits and it just wipes them out as noted above. Like you said, by necessity it would need to. But I have not properly set the denomination (powered down before saving it). :25- This is the one I would check to make sure didn't somehow get changed to some low number. It can cause the machine to take the bill, but then spit it out once it determines it will put the machine over the limit. "[7-5] Determines the maximum number of credits that can be accumulated before the bill acceptor is disabled. This limit must be less than or equal to the credit limit, or a maximum of $3,000." Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: Foster on March 20, 2011, 01:29:59 AM Using a Set chip causes a 61 CMOS RAM error, probably because it did clear the credits.
Think of the implications of it not wiping credits when a set chip is used. Think of a HI Denom Machine set to 1 cent, etc. Now the S2000, I Game, Game King will not allow the key chip to unlock key config menu with credits on it. Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on March 20, 2011, 03:28:40 AM Finally got it working, thanks for all your help guys! Much appreciated. It takes bills now and adds them to the credit meter correctly, but the bezel light will not come on, I put 2 bulbs from another working bezel in it and it is still not lit up. Any ideas on this? I don't know if it matters or not, but the led inside the bill chute is still red, is that normal?
Thanks again. David Title: Re: S+ DBV won't work? please help. Post by: Foster on March 20, 2011, 04:46:14 AM The Red LED at the actual entry of the head is so it can detect bill insertion.
On the left side of the BV head are 2 connectors, we wil be concerned with the back one (the front one is the power and machine interface connection. The back one should only have 2 wires going to it. One wire is red/blue the other is green/blue They should be in the bottom positions. When looking at the connector as it is plugged in and looking at the wires. left right Green/Blue empty empty Red/Blue empty empty empty Also look at the wiring at the bezel. they use the 7-8VAC and Gnd to power the board from the max bet switch the 2 wires I mentioned above also connect via the 4 pin connector |