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**Video Slots** Gaming machines => IGT PE and PE Plus Poker Games. => Topic started by: Hemiman426 on December 19, 2008, 04:16:09 PM



Title: IGT S, S+ and PE, PE+
Post by: Hemiman426 on December 19, 2008, 04:16:09 PM
Hi everyone,

I would like to thank everyone for all of the GREAT help you have all provided in saving myself from pulling my hair out over my Video Poker PE+.

I have a quick request if it's possible. Does anyone have a doc that spells out the differences of all the IGT Video Poker S, S+, PE, PE+ models?

Thanks

Mike


Title: Re: IGT S, S+ and PE, PE+
Post by: stayouttadabunker on December 19, 2008, 05:00:09 PM
I dont have any thing like that but I'm sure someone might be able to help ya... :89-
I suggest buying one of each and you'll see the difference between them! :96-


Title: Re: IGT S, S+ and PE, PE+
Post by: Hemiman426 on December 19, 2008, 05:29:41 PM
Hahahaha, ya especially how well my first purchase went!!! :37-


Title: Re: IGT S, S+ and PE, PE+
Post by: knagl on December 19, 2008, 06:26:21 PM
Does anyone have a doc that spells out the differences of all the IGT Video Poker S, S+, PE, PE+ models?

To be clear, the S and S+ are not video poker machines at all, but rather are spinning reel slot machines.

The PE+ is an updated version of the PE.  The original PE's did not have embedded bill validators (I believe one could be attached to the side of the machine and interfaced, though).  I also believe that the PE and PE+ use slightly different boards, and that features like the superboard are only available with the PE+.

Also, of note, the PE+ platform (and possibly the PE, but I'm not sure) supports video poker, keno, and video slots.


Title: Re: IGT S, S+ and PE, PE+
Post by: Hemiman426 on December 20, 2008, 04:05:32 PM
knagl

Thanks for all the good info. Since I placed this post I tried to do some research. I did figure out the S and S+ are reel only slots.

Now for PE and PE+. Seeing how I’m working with a PE+. It looks like the PE+ can be configured a couple of ways depending on the main CPU (Mother Board)? With that said I have a few more questions.

What is a “Supper Board” and what options does it buy you?

What is a “Game King” and do you need a Supper Board to have a Game King?

In order to convert my current single game Poker PE+ machine to have different poker games, Blackjack, slots and Keno. Would I need a Supper Board, Data Memory Expansion Board and the Eproms?

Can a standard PE+ CPU support the Data Memory Expansion Board to add all the games?

Does any sell a PE+ kit that has everything I need?

Thanks in advance.

Mike


Title: Re: IGT S, S+ and PE, PE+
Post by: Neonkiss on December 20, 2008, 08:40:32 PM
Lemans1969 has your expansion board for the PE+
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She has a link at the top of the page or go here for the item for sale.
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Title: Re: IGT S, S+ and PE, PE+
Post by: theDotster on December 20, 2008, 08:55:05 PM
What is a “Supper Board” and what options does it buy you?

I believe a Super board allows you to plug in a piggy back board that allows you to plug in upto 5 different poker games that are selectable from the main menu screen. You would therefore need the Super board and the piggyback board. Someone will I hope correct me if I'm wrong on this.

What is a “Game King” and do you need a Supper Board to have a Game King?

Game Kings are the next generation up from the PE+ they allow multiple games also straight out of the box, depending on software installed. They also have a touch sreen. The platforms are not interchangable.

In order to convert my current single game Poker PE+ machine to have different poker games, Blackjack, slots and Keno. Would I need a Supper Board, Data Memory Expansion Board and the Eproms?


You would need the Super board to play multiple versions of poker games, i.e JoB, Dueces Wild etc.. To play Keno, Blackjack and some slots you can use a normal PE+ board and just change the chips. Some slots require the super board as they use more chips. I don't believe you can have keno or slots as part of the multiplr game sets, only games that require cards, as I think the expansion board only holds the game data an they all use common graphic chips for the cards.


Title: Re: IGT S, S+ and PE, PE+
Post by: jay on December 21, 2008, 06:45:30 AM
With respect to the PE+

There are two types of MPUs
The standard one can run single games of the earlier version.

The superboard can run the older games but one chip slot is left open.
The superboard has also a variety of other games including some video slots.

There is an add-on board for the superboard that allows 5 "compatiable games" to run.

So whats compatible mean.....

In each chipset You have your MXO, MGO, MBO, MRO chips
You also have a CAP chip (CAPX) with the Superboard.
Escentially these chips control the graphics.
You then have a Game Chip and a Data Chip with the Superboard (only a Game Chip with the standard).
The data chip I believe contains the paytable.

So for the games to be compatiable your MX series and CapX chips have to be compatiable across the games, along with sharing the same data chip.

From my research on the Game King - totally different platform that a PE+ (no such upgrade from a PE+ exists).
Key differences include a Touch Screen and a Netplex interface.

The Netplex interface is how you interface various controllers and bill validators. NetPlex is also used in S2000 and I believe even other non-IGT platforms allowing a number of devices to be compatiable cross platform.

There were two major revisions of Game Kings - the older used Eproms and the newer uses Simms. The latter is my general preference as it allows me to easily make a backup of my machine as I have been known to bend a pin or two when changing games. Simms are not easily backed up by the layperson as the cost of a Simm writer is out of most peoples toy budget.
Normally I would lean towards the eprom version but as the current platform uses Simms I would be concerned that newer games would not be available in EPROM format.