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Title: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 08:05:15 PM Not mine, but a friend of mine has a s2000 that is dead as a door nail. The only thing that works at all is the inside work light (refrigerator). No MPU lights, no BV noise, not even the Fluorescent light in the door. He has changed known good parts like.....
MPU backplane processor main power box power supply behind the reels power on/off switch still nothing, I put his MPU in one of my machines and it works. I do know when the problem occurred he was saying the spin reel button acted funny and might have came loose in the door. any help for this guy ? thanks :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Jim on May 20, 2011, 08:33:45 PM SOunds as if the power supply is not getting 115vac to it. you can check any plug that has a orange wire with a black/orange wire =+25vdc. or red wire with a black /red wire +13 vdc. the +25vdc power all the flor. lamps.
If the power supply is good, then your problem has to be down in the units mounted to the backwall at the bottom. the brownand blue wires carry the 115vac from here to the power supply. Jim Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 08:41:52 PM Sounds as if the power supply is not getting 115vac to it. you can check any plug that has a orange wire with a black/orange wire =+25vdc. or red wire with a black /red wire +13 vdc. the +25vdc power all the flor. lamps. If the power supply is good, then your problem has to be down in the units mounted to the backwall at the bottom. the brownand blue wires carry the 115vac from here to the power supply. Jim Is there any chance that the power CORD could be bad ? it is in a basement and maybe a mouse or poor installation might have damaged the cord. I think he just bolted the machine down to a bench, maybe he pinched the wires... Try a diffrent cord and also a diffrent wall receptacle. ! :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 08:44:18 PM Yeah, it's my Red White Blue again!
Last night I was playing it and decided to even out the credits when I quit. I hit bet 1, 2, 3 then hit the SPIN button not the BET MAX button and zzzzzztttttttt................ Been at it since then and I swapped out every thing it it with known good parts. The last thing I did was just for kicks, I pulled the power cable off the motherboard while the power was on......... MY DOOR LIGHT CAME ON :103- I then proceeded ever so cautiously to plug the power cable back in with the light on and ZZZZZZTTTTT.......... again1 :103- Could it be a dead short somewhere???? HELP............. LOL JR :37- Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 08:46:30 PM Read the post above...
but mostly read this Try a diffrent cord and also a diffrent wall receptacle. ! :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 08:49:02 PM I did that too, I took the power cable from my Big Times .................
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 08:50:05 PM Stuck my volt meter in the cord................ voltage is good..
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 08:53:10 PM Yeah, it's my Red White Blue again! Could it be a dead short somewhere???? JR :208- It's not a dead short unless you see smoke or smell something burning, or of course the , obvious flames and heat... plug your big times pay into the same receptical, worth a try. :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 09:05:51 PM Try swapping the BV, make sure they both work. It's a stab in the dark, but its can't hurt.
sway the bill can too, might be jamming, don't assume anything... The CPU doesn't even need to be in the machine for the BV to cycle :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 09:11:45 PM Played with that several times..........
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 20, 2011, 09:33:05 PM Unplug the door harness just to eliminate and button or harness shorts in the door. Just a stab in the dark !!
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Railroad94 on May 20, 2011, 09:34:17 PM My guess is that its your power distribution box .... not the power supply behind the reels but the box towards the bottom. Not hard to swap so I would try that.
There is a small circuit breaker on top and would check that also. On the distribution box if u unplug the 6 or 8 pin molex on the top left,that is all you will get is the light so check that connection. Good Luck Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 20, 2011, 09:36:33 PM Looks like this
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 09:41:17 PM My guess is that its your power distribution box .... not the power supply behind the reels but the box towards the bottom. Not hard to swap so I would try that. There is a small circuit breaker on top and would check that also. On the distribution box if u unplug the 6 or 8 pin molex on the top left,that is all you will get is the light so check that connection. Good Luck He swares he has swaped that out already, but what about that circut breaker, what does it do when it is tripped ? How does it reset ? How can you tell if it has blown ? :103- and thanks for that info too.... :3- :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 09:43:08 PM Tried putting it in my Big Times... was good.
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 09:47:25 PM And just a note that slotsx2 forgot to point out here... he is swapping parts from one of his machines that has an enhanced cpu board.
So I am not sure they power supplies are the same :103- I do know that he has allmost a whole machine of mine over there swapping and fiddling around till his blood pressure is way up ... :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 09:56:27 PM COMPLetely disconnected the door panel... no change....
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 20, 2011, 10:01:30 PM SOunds as if the power supply is not getting 115vac to it. you can check any plug that has a orange wire with a black/orange wire =+25vdc. or red wire with a black /red wire +13 vdc. the +25vdc power all the flor. lamps.[/u] Get that volt meter back out and check as Jim stated for the +25 and +13 volt. Do you have any??? Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 10:22:03 PM Everything and everyone is pointing toward the lower power supply. I assume you don't have a meter handy, so do this.
Put the power suppy in question in your other machine (Big Times Pay) if it works there then you know its not that part. :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan p.s. I can see the support you are getting from other NLG members, thanks you guys Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 10:32:24 PM It cant be the power supply. I have 3 power supplys. They all work in my BIG TIMES, none work in my RED/WHITE/BLUE :103-
I retract that........... they may be working, but the power isn't gettting where it's suppose to go. Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 20, 2011, 10:35:18 PM It cant be the power supply. I have 3 power supplys. They all work in my BIG TIMES, none work in my RED/WHITE/BLUE :103- I retract that........... they may be working, but the power isn't gettting where it's suppose to go. OK!...but do you have the +25 and +13 volts thruout the machine? Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 10:38:57 PM Clarify last post.
I have 3 power supplys, and 3 power distribution boards that all work in my BIG TIMES. Yes Dan, these guys are a great bunch of people. There help is very much appreciated!!!!!! Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 10:40:33 PM It cant be the power supply. I have 3 power supplys. They all work in my BIG TIMES, none work in my RED/WHITE/BLUE :103- I retract that........... they may be working, but the power isn't gettting where it's suppose to go. Jim, it's not the end of the world (that starts tomorrow) If I don't get called up to heaven in the morning I will bring over a working machine in my truck and swap your glass and strips and get you a working machine. So relax, watch some tv, have a beer, help is forth coming. :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 10:41:24 PM I found my volt meter but it doesnt appear to work anymore. It wont even verify my outlets are working in my house........... I stuck my finger in one... they are working :)
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 10:43:28 PM Thats the problem..... I wanna take it with me!
It has to be something simple, problem is finding it.. Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 10:44:44 PM :208- :208- :208- :208- .... I stuck my finger in one... they are working :) :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: FORDSBS on May 20, 2011, 10:50:15 PM It cant be the power supply. I have 3 power supplys. They all work in my BIG TIMES, none work in my RED/WHITE/BLUE :103- I retract that........... they may be working, but the power isn't gettting where it's suppose to go. Jim, it's not the end of the world (that starts tomorrow) If I don't get called up to heaven in the morning I will bring over a working machine in my truck and swap your glass and strips and get you a working machine. So relax, watch some tv, have a beer, help is forth coming. :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Jim, now Dan is a true NLG member. That is one good guy who will bring another machine over for you. :244- :244- Ford Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 20, 2011, 10:56:19 PM He's my brother............. don't let him fool you! :200-
tired..... Karma up for everyone. Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 20, 2011, 11:11:18 PM He's my brother............. don't let him fool you! :200- tired..... Karma up for everyone. That's not funny Jim. Well, yes it is, but I am not his brother guys. I just meet him a couple weeks back. I was taught to respect the elderly , and Jim is about as elderly as they get, and I feel sorry his machine is down. I have a responsibility to help him fix it , so then he will stop bugging the shit out of me about it. :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 21, 2011, 12:38:07 AM Yeah, it's my Red White Blue again! Last night I was playing it and decided to even out the credits when I quit. I hit bet 1, 2, 3 then hit the SPIN button not the BET MAX button and zzzzzztttttttt................ Been at it since then and I swapped out every thing it it with known good parts. The last thing I did was just for kicks, I pulled the power cable off the motherboard while the power was on......... MY DOOR LIGHT CAME ON :103- I then proceeded ever so cautiously to plug the power cable back in with the light on and ZZZZZZTTTTT.......... again1 :103- Could it be a dead short somewhere???? HELP............. LOL JR :37- Pull all the connectors off the mother board. Power up and see what happens and plug them back in one at a time. Cycle power each time...do not plug them in live. Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 21, 2011, 02:35:01 AM coorslight
dont know why, but now the bill validator powers up, i now have all lights working , reels spin up but get error - METER DISCONNECTED if i plug in the second plug from the top on the left of the MB it goes back to no power on at all. disconnect it, it powers up as stated, but with the error?? getting close........ any more suggestions?? Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: cowboygames on May 21, 2011, 02:59:59 AM Sounds like what I had a few days ago. Took my meter board out and it was burned up pretty bad, got really hot. Root cause I think was a faulty player panel switch and it ended up wrecking one of my door IO boards and the meter board which I just bypassed to get rid of it. Seems like mine went bad when I pushed the service button to test the lighting. I thought it was just a coincidence at the time, but you mentioned having a problem with your max bet button. :103- Try swapping all your IO boards out now. Maybe replace the max bet button first though
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 21, 2011, 10:27:20 AM checked both I/O boards.... they are ok.
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: cowboygames on May 21, 2011, 11:10:25 AM Bypass the meter board and change the max bet button?
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 21, 2011, 11:55:54 AM coorslight dont know why, but now the bill validator powers up, i now have all lights working , reels spin up but get error - METER DISCONNECTED if i plug in the second plug from the top on the left of the MB it goes back to no power on at all. disconnect it, it powers up as stated, but with the error?? getting close........ any more suggestions?? That sound like connector J8 Cab i/o senet connector. attached is two files. 3rd page on file 2 far right middle is the j-8 connector and its pin out. Find a working multi meter and you should be able to narrow it down. Try putting all connectors back and unplug the cab i/o card leave it out and power up. Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 21, 2011, 12:59:03 PM Took the known working meter out of my Big Times, put it in RWB, took out cab i/o card. plugged 2nd cable down on left back into MB, powered it up, it booted up now but still get
meter disconnected message after boot. Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 21, 2011, 01:09:19 PM Took the known working meter out of my Big Times, put it in RWB, took out cab i/o card. plugged 2nd cable down on left back into MB, powered it up, it booted up now but still get meter disconnected message after boot. Do you have back lit reels?? If you do, plug the cab i/o card back in but leave the backlit reel harness unplugged from the front of the i/o card. See waht happens Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 21, 2011, 01:16:01 PM yep have baklit reels. I put the card in didnt plug in reel cable........... wont power on.
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 21, 2011, 01:34:00 PM yep have baklit reels. I put the card in didnt plug in reel cable........... wont power on. well if you have changed the i/o with a known good one, then it is something that i/o card powers. We have to look at the schematic and unplug each item one by one till it powers up. You just eliminated the reels and their lights. Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 21, 2011, 01:47:48 PM Done
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: coorslight115 on May 21, 2011, 02:30:24 PM I am not at home and can't get to my manual, Can someone post the schematic pages for the cab i/o. Or send me the manual. Trying to get to the bottom of this.
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Buzz on May 21, 2011, 02:41:46 PM Took the known working meter out of my Big Times, put it in RWB, took out cab i/o card. plugged 2nd cable down on left back into MB, powered it up, it booted up now but still get meter disconnected message after boot. I'm a little lost on all this but if you can get the machine back to the above point, (booted up with a error ) just lift and close the main door latch, wait 3 or 4 seconds and do it again, do this 5 or 6 times. This may not work and then again you may get a supprise !! Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 21, 2011, 03:27:04 PM Tried that, did nothing..........
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Buzz on May 21, 2011, 03:58:45 PM Open the door and press the test buttom on the MPU, the display should say "accounting" close the door and see if accounting changes to meter disconnected error. If it doesn't change, check your door optics.
Are you sure when you close the door you are getting the latch all the way down? Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 21, 2011, 04:17:59 PM now when it gets to error message, no lights are lit on MPU
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Buzz on May 21, 2011, 04:26:09 PM Thats normal.
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Buzz on May 21, 2011, 04:27:24 PM Did you test the optics ??
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 21, 2011, 06:58:35 PM I just duplicated the error message { DOOR CLOSURE M - METER DISCONNECTED } on my BIG TIMES PAY merely by removing the I/O board from the MPU and booting the machine............
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 27, 2011, 01:00:47 AM Shit, stuff, it's all the same...... Unless times have changed that much..... :37-
AND, I thought I did send it private.... hmmmmm Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Buzz on May 27, 2011, 01:59:32 AM soon as it stops raining i'll bring your shit back......... It ain't raining here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :103- :103- :103- :103- :103- Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on May 27, 2011, 09:08:11 AM Sorry, that was meant for Dan
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on May 27, 2011, 11:07:45 PM soon as it stops raining i'll bring your shit back......... my shit ? you must have meant to say "things" , or "stuff" ... why would you use the word "shit" ? and why didn't you simply send me a private message, or personal email ? you also could have called my work, or even my cell. There must be some reason you tagged it to this message, but I sure don't know what reason that would be. :103- :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: PLUNGER BOY on May 28, 2011, 02:14:42 AM He's my brother............ shit??? DAN Sounds like its time to trade for a new brother Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on June 03, 2011, 10:00:30 AM My machine is running fine after finding the problem, it was the handle solenoid..... Anyway, is it possible that a short can do some other damage that can cause the slot machine to play differently? Before the short put the slot machine down for seveal days, the game played vey good at 98%, and I had 15,000 credits built up.
Since it's been running again, all it does is take, take, take...... I can't build up any credits at all. Is this even remotely possible??? Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on June 03, 2011, 11:19:56 AM YES.... IT IS POSSIBLE!!!
Changed MPU board and it's playing great again! ALSO, I have been having very slow reel spins......... That problem iss now corrected!! Guess I'll lay in a supply of MPU's.... Topic Closed.......... Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: stayouttadabunker on June 03, 2011, 12:01:53 PM Shorts anywhere in a machine - wreaks havoc that's for sure!!!!
I had one board explode a chip last week because I plugged a bonus reel harness incorrectly! Most of these older 502/504 MPU boards seem to be the main cause of many problems on S2000's. They are suspectively ( is this a word? lol ) at the end of their service lives? :129- In my case, I'm sure that plugging in my harness in wrongfully - stuck the final dagger into my MPU's life. :96- Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Buzz on June 03, 2011, 01:27:16 PM My machine is running fine after finding the problem, it was the handle solenoid..... Anyway, is it possible that a short can do some other damage that can cause the slot machine to play differently? Before the short put the slot machine down for seveal days, the game played vey good at 98%, and I had 15,000 credits built up. Since it's been running again, all it does is take, take, take...... I can't build up any credits at all. Is this even remotely possible??? YES.... IT IS POSSIBLE!!! Changed MPU board and it's playing great again! ALSO, I have been having very slow reel spins......... That problem iss now corrected!! Guess I'll lay in a supply of MPU's.... Topic Closed.......... slotsx2 If your serious on these two comments, the only thing I can think of is, you have been smoking to many left handed cigarettes. :97- :97- Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on June 03, 2011, 02:35:18 PM Thanks for your help.....
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Buzz on June 03, 2011, 02:39:45 PM It was a joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: stayouttadabunker on June 03, 2011, 03:38:19 PM I prefer the right-handed smokes... :96-
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: CaptainHappy on June 03, 2011, 07:56:09 PM I prefer the right-handed smokes... :96- And I prefer not to smoke!!! :193- Never have, and NEVER will! I grew up in a house of smokers! :256- Just ask Buzz how much I hate smoke!!! :89- :208-CH :95- Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: Yoeddy1 on June 03, 2011, 08:12:34 PM I prefer the right-handed smokes... :96- And I prefer not to smoke!!! :193- Never have, and NEVER will! I grew up in a house of smokers! :256- Just ask Buzz how much I hate smoke!!! :89- :208-CH :95- Same here...a casino is the only time I'll deal with it. Jason Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: U.S.AutoService on June 03, 2011, 11:33:14 PM It was a joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 Now he's your brother Buzz. who is older ? :137- U.S.Auto Service Dan Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: slotsx2 on June 04, 2011, 12:43:00 AM You are so funny Dan..... And I thought you only had 2 faces........ :208-
Title: My S2000 does not turn on Post by: akchez66 on June 19, 2011, 12:22:39 AM When I power up my S2000, all i hear is clicking and the lights on the CPU are all blinking, the clicking is coming from the power supply behind the reels, can anyone help me?????
Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: FORDSBS on June 19, 2011, 12:25:15 AM I will not say for sure this is your problem but my game acted the same & it was the power supply.
If you have another swap & see if that takes care of it. Ford Title: Re: s2000 dead as a door nail Post by: FORDSBS on June 19, 2011, 12:29:28 AM Did you check & make sure you board is in all the way & seated?
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