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Title: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 10:47:28 PM
The problem I'm having on this slot maching is, when i insert a quarter into the machine it returns it into the payout tray. I have tried a different quarter into the coin comparitor (cc16-d.100) but still the same results, the wires look fine as do the connectors.What things should i try b4 i purchase another comparitor. I'm not getting any error codes. and the insert coin light is not on.... please help ASAP,as company is coming into town this weekend and i would love to get it working.....OOOOOO YEA ,The dollar bill acceptor works fine   IS THIS (cc16-d.100) A 24VOLT coin comparitor


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: cowboygames on May 20, 2011, 11:11:34 PM
It's an s+ machine so the comparitor should be 24v. Was it working and quit or has it never worked since you had it. First thing I'd check is if the red or green light on the comparitor is lit. If not you might need a new comparitor. Check voltage on the plug first though. Check to make sure it has a sample coin inserted. Make sure there are no coins jammed in the comparitor. Make sure credits on the machine don't exceed credit limit settings on the machine. Just a few things to try and narrow down the possibilities


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:15:11 PM
it worked ,and then it stoped, this happened a few times.When it happened b4 all i did was put a different quarter into the comparitor and all was fine. But now it is not working


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:16:24 PM
doesnt the light only come on when the door is shut??? i dont see the light on when the door is open tho


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
no coins are jammed


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: OhioGaming on May 20, 2011, 11:17:37 PM
Try turning the sensitivity clockwise then counter clockwise until it stops .. bottom right side of comparitor where the arrow and plus sign is.

You will not see the light on with the door open in a S+ machine.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
HOW DO I CHECK THAT ( Make sure credits on the machine don't exceed credit limit settings on the machine.)


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:21:23 PM
I did try to  turning the sensitivity clockwise then counter clockwise until it stops , and still the same problem


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:22:53 PM
anything else i should try,,or should i buy one


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
will this one work in my machine http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370486731354&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: OhioGaming on May 20, 2011, 11:31:39 PM
If you are 100% sure the coin is seated correctly then most likely you need another comparitor.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: proten on May 20, 2011, 11:35:59 PM

You can temporally bypass the coin comparator by blocking the rake back
or removing it completely. 
The bad side is if more coins are dropped than needed
you will get coin in errors.

Paul


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:39:32 PM
im a 100% sure the coin is seated correctly ,i must have tried it 25 times or more


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 20, 2011, 11:47:12 PM
i pulled back the rake and the coin now goes into the hopper,but it doesnt give me any credits, So i this thing shot

You can temporally bypass the coin comparator by blocking the rake back
or removing it completely. 
The bad side is if more coins are dropped than needed
you will get coin in errors.

Paul


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: proten on May 20, 2011, 11:53:30 PM
Have you checked to if you have power to the coin ops?


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: slots4home on May 20, 2011, 11:55:29 PM
One question that has not been asked is , is their a error  code in the display? far left side like maby a code 12?


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: cowboygames on May 20, 2011, 11:59:38 PM
You might try pulling the comparitor and optics out and cleaning them to see if you just have a piece of gunk stuck in there inhibiting the comparitors functioning properly. As far as exceeding the credit limit, just play a couple dozen off and see if it works till you reach that number of credits on the meter again.

Crown and cokes are starting so sink in, sorry bout the spelling :140-


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 12:08:22 AM
I think a clue here is both the CC AND optics both seem to no longer be working.

Can you press the white button on the coin optics board and put a credit on the machine?


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 12:29:58 AM
how to i  test that


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 12:32:04 AM
Open the door and on the optics board right below the coin comparitor is a small white button. When you press it, it should put a credit on the machine that you can play with the door open.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 12:38:28 AM
 will this one work in my machine http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370486731354&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 12:39:58 AM
i did that just now and it works, but i dont want to play it with the door open

Open the door and on the optics board right below the coin comparitor is a small white button. When you press it, it should put a credit on the machine that you can play with the door open.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 12:40:22 AM
As far as exceeding the credit limit, just play a couple dozen off and see if it works till you reach that number of credits on the meter again.

I don't think that is it. On my machine if I have the max number of credits, it disables the BV, but will still accept coins. Any wins get paid out of the hopper though.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 12:42:21 AM
no error codes

One question that has not been asked is , is their a error  code in the display? far left side like maby a code 12?


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 12:43:37 AM
i did that just now and it works, but i dont want to play it with the door open

Well, that is still a good sign. Now just to eliminate one more thing, put another credit on with the button and don't play it, but close and latch the door. The credit should go away. That will tell if your door optics are working.



Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 01:00:53 AM
i cleaned the optics and still the coins go into the tray


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 01:06:50 AM
Do the test I mentioned above and if it works (the credit goes away when you close the door), you can then check your coin optics in the self test mode.

Be aware that you have two issues here. The coin comparitor AND the optics are both not working right. As noted earlier, you can hold the rake open and try to get the optics working. If the coins are going to the tray, they are never getting to the optics, so you may not know if cleaning them helped.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 01:20:03 AM
OK I HIT THE SM.WHITE BUTTON 3 TIMES ,FOR 3 CREDITS AND WHEN I CLOSE THE DOOR IT GOES AWAY


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 01:24:17 AM
I lifted the gate and the coins go into the hopper ,but i do not get any credits


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 01:26:29 AM
Ok good, your door optics are working. You can go into the self test and check the coin optics with the input tests. If you don't know how to do this, let us know what SP chip you have.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 01:27:26 AM
sp chip ? how do i do the test


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 01:28:50 AM
sp chip ? how do i do the test

Read and do this, and let us know the results.

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm)


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 01:36:36 AM
0932


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 01:42:41 AM
0932


Here is the PSR for SP932. But I'm not sure how to run a coin optics test on that SP. Hopefully someone else knows.

If it's like later SP chips, this may help

<borrowed form another thread>
...10-1, 11-1 and 12-1 are three tests for the three optics in the optics circuit.

with the coin comp. removed, test 10-1 selected, you should be able to put a folded piece of paper or thin cardboard cut to size( to fit thru the black coin optic piece) and while observing the display watch as it changes from a 1 to a 0.  do this for the remaining others, e.g. 11-1 and 12-1,......


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 01:45:05 AM
so do you think i need new optics or a new coin comparition


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 01:56:20 AM
Sounds like your optics board may be bad. But running an optics test will tell for sure.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 01:56:52 AM
how do i do a optics test


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 01:57:32 AM
i checked the fuses and there all good


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: poppo on May 21, 2011, 02:01:05 AM
how do i do a optics test

You use the self test mode. The PSR usually tells you how to do it. The PSR for the SP932 does not go into detail about it though. That is why I was hoping someone else would know how it works for that SP chip.

But you can try this and see if it works.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=11817.msg106077#msg106077 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=11817.msg106077#msg106077)


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: Jim on May 21, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
remove Q-2 or Q-4 on the optics board.



Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 04:28:22 PM
OK after messing around with it for another 1hr today ,with the help from OHIO GAMMING. The owner had me look the the plugs and the wires that go to and from the coin comp., so i looked at  it for the last time b4 i send it out the coin comp. for repairs, So i inserted a coin and now is working great..... it must have beed a bad connection or something.All i did was look at the plugs and the wire,did some wiggiling and presto it works.... I would like to thank everyone who helped me out.I learned more about the machine in 2 days ,than the 10 years of owning it. Most of all i would like to thank THE OWNER OF OHIO GAMMING for being so helpful over the phone to help me getting it going again.....GREAT CUSTOMER RELATIONS

thank you everyone
Steve Panebianco and Family


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: Buzz on May 21, 2011, 04:38:57 PM
Steve   I have a question for you.  What model machine do you have ??   S+ or a S 2000


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: FORDSBS on May 21, 2011, 04:53:06 PM
OK after messing around with it for another 1hr today ,with the help from OHIO GAMMING. The owner had me look the the plugs and the wires that go to and from the coin comp., so i looked at  it for the last time b4 i send it out the coin comp. for repairs, So i inserted a coin and now is working great..... it must have beed a bad connection or something.All i did was look at the plugs and the wire,did some wiggiling and presto it works.... I would like to thank everyone who helped me out.I learned more about the machine in 2 days ,than the 10 years of owning it. Most of all i would like to thank THE OWNER OF OHIO GAMMING for being so helpful over the phone to help me getting it going again.....GREAT CUSTOMER RELATIONS

thank you everyone
Steve Panebianco and Family

What I have been finding is that most of the time it is something as simple as a poor connection.
K+ to you & K+ to Ohio Gamming for going the extra to help you on phone.
Ford


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: coorslight115 on May 21, 2011, 05:18:58 PM
 :259-


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: Buzz on May 21, 2011, 06:34:06 PM
The reason for my question on the model of the machine is, if it's a S+ it should have worked with the rake blocked open. This is not true with a S 2000. 1996 you would think it's a S+.


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: coorslight115 on May 21, 2011, 06:36:52 PM
Buzz, earlier he states he has a SP932 so it is an S-Plus machine


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 08:24:56 PM
i was told it a S+ machine,,,how do i tell? so i know for sure,for future problems its a  IGT built in 2/96 model # B5036CFW red white & blue deluxe with the nudge feature


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: the ShOcKeR on May 21, 2011, 08:33:27 PM
AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HELPED ME.....the power of the internet and the kind and helpful people that make this site great place to get help..HATS OFF TO ALL OF YOU


Title: Re: 1996 IGT RED WHIT & BLUE W/NUDGE
Post by: coorslight115 on May 21, 2011, 09:29:41 PM
i was told it a S+ machine,,,how do i tell? so i know for sure,for future problems its a  IGT built in 2/96 model # B5036CFW red white & blue deluxe with the nudge feature

It is an S-Plus machine