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Bill Validators and Currency acceptors => JCM DBV-45, DBV-145, and DBV-200 Bill Validators. => Topic started by: highroller on May 28, 2011, 07:31:49 PM



Title: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 28, 2011, 07:31:49 PM
i have a double blackjack igt machine and the bill validator was working until the electricity blinked and i unplugged the machine then when plugged back in the validator will not even make any sounds at startup then replaced with different validator and will make whirling sounds at startup then wont take a bill in the lights on the front will not light up and the bulbs are good please help thx in advance
chad


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: AnotherTech on May 28, 2011, 08:25:41 PM
I'm not sure what the Double Blackjack machine is.  I'm thinking maybe a PE or PE+ cabinet, but pics will help more than anything else.

Does the new BV have the right software in it?  I'm guessing that it has a DBV-45 or 145.  It sounds like the old one is fried, but the chip from it is probably ok and may fix the problem if you put it in the new one.



Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: Buzz on May 28, 2011, 08:42:37 PM
   BV power supply   ???????????????    :103- :103-


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 28, 2011, 08:45:16 PM
new power supply also


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 28, 2011, 08:59:31 PM
i sent the old one back to have it checked so they have it said it wasnt any good and said it should work in this machine but i dont know for sure


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: Buzz on May 28, 2011, 09:58:59 PM
Take a look at this thread.    http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4226.msg8620#msg8620


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: CaptainHappy on May 28, 2011, 10:55:26 PM
There is an IGT S+ theme called Double BlackJack, so it may not be a PE or PE+

http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Black%20Jack%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Black%20Jack%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier.htm)

I always suggest: :211- It makes it easier for folks to identify your machine.

CaptainHappy :95-


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 29, 2011, 01:00:33 PM
it is an igt s+ i beleive


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 29, 2011, 01:23:00 PM
i think i see them tabs you circled but i think they are lined up but still the light on the front will not light up i seen on one thread to turn the dip switches 1 2 3 8 on then turn 8 off you will hear the bv whirl then the light on the front blinks so i know the bulbs are good and the bv is working because it run a bill thru without the cash box in with these switches on


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: Buzz on May 29, 2011, 02:14:47 PM
The lights will only light up when the BV is ready to except a bill, If the BV isn't installer properly it's not ready.  To see in the tabs are in place, loosen the two thumb screws in front. while holding the front down, gently press on the red lever, if the rear of the transport rises it's not properly installed.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: poppo on May 29, 2011, 02:50:20 PM
What model DBV is it? If it's a DBV-200 does your BV power supply have the vent slots in it? What are the BV head DIP switch positions? Typically they will be all off on a S+ DBV-200. Might try #10 both ways.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 29, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
not sure what model of bv it is it says wba 12/13-ss and id 024 v 3.60 -30 on a tag and it only has 8 dip switches the power supply does have vents and the dip switches are all off


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 29, 2011, 04:24:59 PM
my bv is different than the one in the other thread it does not have that red lever to push mine is all black


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 29, 2011, 04:40:55 PM
if you turn number 8 dip switch on the light blinks on the front if that means anything


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 29, 2011, 08:22:23 PM
i think it is a dbv 147 if there is such a number


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: AnotherTech on May 29, 2011, 08:51:43 PM
WBA 12/13 is the model of the BV.  If it has a replaceable EPROM in the bottom it's a WBA-13, if not it's a WBA-12.  They work exactly the same except for how you change the version of software.

I'm not positive what ID version the S+ is supposed to have, but I think it was supposed to be ID 22/23.  If so then you have the wrong version of software in the new BV.  Yours is ID 024, from what you stated earlier.

Who has a S+ with a WBA?  What ID version does it use?  :103-


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: AnotherTech on May 29, 2011, 09:14:14 PM
OK, from what I've been able to find out, the S+ uses ID 022/023.  So your problem is most likely just the wrong version of software. 

If it has an EPROM, it's a simple matter of replacing it with the right one.  If it is a flash model, you will have to have it reprogrammed by someone with the equipment and software.  I'm pretty sure one of the vendors here can do it, but not positive.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: Foster on May 29, 2011, 10:15:48 PM
That is JCM WBA and not a DBV 145, 147, or 200

Please post a picture of the machine,

IF you do have a S+ that WBA is not the correct one for your S+ It has firmware for the S2000, I-Game platforms.

S+ with a WBA 12/13 is rare.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 30, 2011, 02:14:14 AM
will the wba work in this machine or will i have to get a different one if i need a diferent one which one is the right one


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: Buzz on May 30, 2011, 02:18:51 AM
WBA 12/13 is the model of the BV.  If it has a replaceable EPROM in the bottom it's a WBA-13, if not it's a WBA-12.  They work exactly the same except for how you change the version of software.

I'm not positive what ID version the S+ is supposed to have, but I think it was supposed to be ID 22/23.  If so then you have the wrong version of software in the new BV.  Yours is ID 024, from what you stated earlier.

Who has a S+ with a WBA?  What ID version does it use?  :103-
OK, from what I've been able to find out, the S+ uses ID 022/023.  So your problem is most likely just the wrong version of software. 

If it has an EPROM, it's a simple matter of replacing it with the right one.  If it is a flash model, you will have to have it reprogrammed by someone with the equipment and software.  I'm pretty sure one of the vendors here can do it, but not positive.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: AnotherTech on May 30, 2011, 03:46:54 AM
will the wba work in this machine or will i have to get a different one if i need a diferent one which one is the right one

The one you have will work.  You just need the right software, ID 022/023.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 30, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
i hate to sound like an idiot but how can i get the right software installed not sure how to tell if it has an eprom or a flash model


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: poppo on May 30, 2011, 04:14:54 PM
i hate to sound like an idiot but how can i get the right software installed not sure how to tell if it has an eprom or a flash model

As noted above
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If it has a replaceable EPROM in the bottom it's a WBA-13, if not it's a WBA-12. 

So look on the bottom of the unit and see if there is a socketed EPROM. If so, you can just buy the right chip from one of the vendors here. If not, then it will need to be sent in to be flashed.

Posting pictures also really helps.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 30, 2011, 10:42:09 PM
i think it does have an eprom but not sure it says toshiba k39218
                                                                      0111mad
                                                                       tc551001cf-70l
would this be the right chip that im looking at


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: poppo on May 30, 2011, 10:47:08 PM
I believe that the part number for a static ram chip not a eprom.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 30, 2011, 10:55:40 PM
would it look like this chip same size  or would it be smaller this is the only one that looks like maybe it might be so it might be a flash model


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: AnotherTech on May 30, 2011, 11:01:31 PM
Here's a pic of 2 upside down WBAs side by side.  The one on the left is a -13, with the removable EPROM circled in red.  The one on the right is a -12 with the non removable flash circled in yellow.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 30, 2011, 11:04:43 PM
thx that really helped i tied to get pics downloaded but having troubles with camera i have the flash model would it be cheaper to get a different bv or send this one in to get flashed


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: AnotherTech on May 30, 2011, 11:27:55 PM
I would call Blue Ridge Slots.  There is a banner for them near the top of the page.  There was another thread where they said they can do it.  Make sure they have the proper version of software.  You want the latest version ID 022/023 for a WBA.

I would think that it's cheaper to have yours flashed than to get another one with the right software, but you can ask them about both.  You could even post what you want in the classifieds.


Title: Re: double blackjack igt bill validator not working
Post by: highroller on May 30, 2011, 11:39:20 PM
ok ill try them thx for everything