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Title: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: Ratspot on June 13, 2011, 10:04:30 PM
I have replaced the bulb first thing. No good. Took some measurements. Voltage not getting to the bulb. I dont have the schematics so I need some suggestions please.   :99-


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: MrBellMan on June 13, 2011, 10:19:05 PM
Which lights are out? Did you check all of the fuses? Make sure all of the molex connectors are plugged in tight and are not burnt?

If you don't see any issues there, please check out these pinball help links:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en# (https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#)!forum/rec.games.pinball

http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC (http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC)

Good luck!


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: poppo on June 13, 2011, 10:29:26 PM
I dont have the schematics ..

Here you go

http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=creature+from&searchtype=quick#588 (http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=creature+from&searchtype=quick#588)


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: Ratspot on June 13, 2011, 10:34:37 PM
Yes all connectors were checked.
The light that wont go on is the Hologram Lamp on the bottom of the cabinet.


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: poppo on June 13, 2011, 10:44:27 PM
The schematics show the lamps are in a matrix. Are there any other lamps not working? They also show a fuse on the hologram motor driver board. Maybe that has to be working???


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: Ratspot on June 14, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
The motor is working but I will check the fuse tonight and try to trace the wire that is connected to the Hologram lamp back up into the back box to make sure its not open somewhere. I have rep;laced Q20 which is the driver for the lamp according to the book. Starting to run out of ideas :103-


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: poppo on June 14, 2011, 10:47:20 AM
I have rep;laced Q20 which is the driver for the lamp according to the book.

What about Q54 'creature flasher'?

Also look at page 112. There is a hologram lamp solenoid #28


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: Slotmaster on June 14, 2011, 04:16:28 PM
use www.pinrepair.com

Will help you for sure.



Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: MrBellMan on June 14, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
The "tech info" at Pinrepair.com was taken down a few months ago and will probably not return.


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: Ratspot on June 15, 2011, 12:22:20 PM
Well, I have an update. I found a "loose" wire. But that still didnt fix it. I couldnt find the solenoid that was referred to above. Reinserted the Low voltage spot that is the hologram light and it came on for a second.....?
Cleaned the contacts on the bulb housing and it appears to be working. Strange, all of the problems started when I turned it on one day and the 5v fuse kept blowing. I replaced the bridge rectifier and got the system to come back up but I have been fixing starnge little issue like this for awhile now. I believe the pinball machine was a victim of a power surge even though its plugged into a surge protector.   Thanks for all the help above and the quick responses.


Title: Re: CFTBL Pinball Help. Creature wont light up!
Post by: poppo on June 15, 2011, 01:07:33 PM
Glad you got it working.  :3-