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I have two Blazing 7's S6000 progressive proslot machines. I have won just about every win combination on the pay glass but have never hit the 3 triple bars for 60 credits. Just curious if anyone has ever hit the 3 triple bars  :103-. Thx

Sure do all the time at the casino
playing on a $1 machine 3 triple bars but never the progressive...well maybe a few times  :89-

Tim

I seem to hit the mixed 7's for 200 quite often, must be a different personality chip

Sounds perfectly normal to me!  :89- :71-


The mixed sevens and red sevens will hit far more often than the triple bars. In fact, the triple bars are the second rarest hit on the machine, behind the jackpot.

I have attached some of the data from SMI 5962, which I have installed in my machine. It pays back 92.83% with max bet.

Note that you will mostly hit blanks and mixed bars; followed by mixed 7s, single bars and red 7's; and finally double bars, triple bars, and the jackpot. You actually hit mixed sevens more often than single bars! Since this game is a Buy A Pay (BAP), the odds of hitting the jackpot are quite good, because you are "buying" the sevens payouts with your second coin and multiplying them with your third.

You may have a different chip in your machine, so YMMV.  


Also, be aware that the progressive amount has nothing to do with the game's payback percentage and doesn't affect the odds in any way. It is programmed separately to contribute a fixed amount (or percentage) to the meter with each bet. If it's properly set, as it would be in a casino, the reset (base) amount will be equal to the non-progressive jackpot value, which in the case of my machine is 1000 coins, or $250. However, there are some Blazing 7s chips that pay 1500 coins for the jackpot. Think of the progressive as icing on the cake.


StatFreak :31-
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P.S. In case you're interested in calculating the odds, this chip has 34 virtual stops per reel, or 39,304 total combinations. Since there are 36 3B combinations, the odds of hitting triple bars is about 1 in 1,092.

To figure out the machine's total payout percentage with the progressive:

If the reset value is equal to the non-progressive jackpot, simply add the progressive's contribution percentage to the chip's overall percentage.

If the reset value is not equal to the non-progressive jackpot, replace the jackpot value stated for the chip with the programmed reset value in the PAR sheet and recalculate the overall payback with this new value. Then add the progressive's contribution percentage to that figure. This would never happen in a casino, but many of us have fun programming ridiculously high amounts in our progressives for the fun of it. :200-


SF :31-

Geat info, Thanks very much. The SMI's I am running are 6892 & 6893. I have hit the jackpot a few times but never the triple bars.

6993 is a completely different game. It's a 3cm cherry/mixed bars/mixed sevens game with an 84.32% payback with max bet. (blech! :47-) It must really take your money most of the time. :56-

It has 128 stops on each reel, for a much larger than average 2,097,152 combinations, and --- get this: only ONE (yeah, 1 ) way to hit the three blue sevens, which pays 40,000 for a 3-coin bet. The odds of hitting 3 triple bars are not bad, all things considered, at 1,752:1.

<ADD> The odds of hitting mixed sevens on this one are 1 in 58,524. :60-


I don't have any information for SMI 6892.

sorry typo   it's a 6893

Well, now that you've changed the numbers, you're completely SOL.  :200-  :30-  :208- :208- :208-

I don't have the PAR sheets for either of those!  :279-  :203-

 :31-

Okay, I dragged my Bally binder out of the closet and had a look.  :209-

6892 and 6893 are on the same page as my chip, and are standard Blazing sevens, but with the 1500 coin top prize.

Both have either 32 or 34 stops. My book lists all of these as 32 stop games (except for 1 chip), but the PAR sheets that I have list them as 34 stops. I'm inclined to believe the PAR over the SMI list in the book.

The 6892 has a max bet payback of 90.85% and the 6893, 94.60%. In addition, it lists the 6892 as having 8 top award combinations, while the 6893 has 12. That's all the information that I have. If it were me, I'd put the 6893 in there and leave the 6892 in the drawer. :5-

I don't have to see the PAR sheets to know that everything I said in my first post applies to your games. The 3B combo is rare, and the mixed 7s are much more common. The numbers will be close to those that I posted.


Stat :31-

Thx for the help

do you have the spec's on Bonus Frenzy 10x SMI 9041, whats the chance of hitting the 10,000 ?

My book only covers games designed before 1998 and I don't have the PAR sheet for that one. Sorry.

There's a good chance that the fourth reel has a different number of stops than the first three -- at least the IGT S2000 4th reel bonus games are designed that way.

Both have 32 stops as listed in the PAR.



Both list 8 top award combinations.  I think you were looking at the wrong sheet.

Thanks,
Waynel

great info guys. Thx