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ok, so i place a bid for a kit on ebay and i'm the only bidder (i was checking often and even until about 14 min left)... until 6 seconds before the expiring time!!!  :37- :37-

are you fuckin kidding me?? i could understand if they placed a bid/bids before that and beat me to it. but to dive in in the last second and outbid me by $1 with his/her only bid??? can't imagine what kind of karma this snake will come upon.  :107-

I didn't buy this kit, ( I don't buy kits ) but that's the way I bid.  I guess I'm must be some kind of snake !!  Why would anyone show their hand to early ??

 :103-  That's how Ebay works.
Why drive up the starting price wait until the shootout at the very end.

Tim

i guess that makes sense in a way... at the end of the day i don't really give a rats ass, it's a kit i can live w/o. it was my first attempt at buying something on ebay - could very well be my last! NLG has worked out great for me so far, i've met some great guys here and bought some very nice kits! so who needs ebay??!!??  :296-

I had to vent somewhere!!!

I'm like you guys, can't imagine why there'd be 30 bids on an item that has 10 days left on the auction. Last minute shopping is the way to go. That's what watch lists are for. Snipping is an art. I didn't buy the kit either though, I get 99% of my stuff here on the forum

Danny- You've been "sniped" by a bidder that swoops in at the last second -- it's a fairly common tactic used by eBay buyers to try and get an item at the lowest possible price for them.

If they were to bid on it when it has days left, then someone outbids them, then they bid higher, etc., the item price can be very high by the end of the auction.  If they place their maximum bid right before the end of the auction, they have a better chance of not driving up the price.

There are a number of software programs that will place a "snipe" bid for you.  I use eSnipe.com (http://www.esnipe.com/) -- I just set my maximum bid amount and the software will automatically bid on my behalf right before the item ends.  As I mentioned, there are other sites/software programs that will do the same thing.

(...and no, I didn't bid on the glass kit you were bidding on)

I learned a long time ago to never bid early on Ebay :60-. If you do there always seems to be a new bidder thats going to run the price up :89-. I love it when you watch two people get into a bidding war over an item and when it's a said and done, they could have gone to your local Target, or Best Buy and bought the same thing for less and they still had to pay for shipping on top of it all :25-..

i bid a day before expiration and there were hardly any bids on anthing else the guy was selling. so i assumed i was walking it right into paypal  :279-

so before i fell asleep last night i checked again and there was only 1 bid = mine... with 14 mins left  :30- :30- :30- he won it with one bid at the buzzer!

i have learned a valuable lesson here today. thanks for all the posts.  i have a feeling i'll end up with that same kit someday, and it'll be someone from NLG that will provide that kit for me  :155-

What was the kit??  And no I did not buy any

my guess is that he was talking about the Haywire kit...
I saw it but I already have one.
I was amazed that there was only 1 bid on it because at one time...
this kit could have fetched a lot more!  :89-

ebay bidders have gotten smarter and use the esnipe bid grabber.
that way it looks and appears like no one is interested in the item up for sale
and the winner can get the item as cheap as possible.


Basically, you ran right smack into the dog eat dog world of internet bidding... :72-

I'm ol School  my "esnipe"  is called a index finger !!  If I bid on something and really don't want it I use my middle finger.  If I wanted it and didn't get it, I really use my middle finger !!!

It was triple double dollars 3cm 9'' kit. Love the colors on it! It didn't have the sb chip yet didn't matter to me cuz I already have one. So it was a good deal/clean lookin kit so I took a stab at it... I'm a sucker for most triple double themes.

Normally I don't either. But if it's something that I have been looking for and it has a low starting bid, i will go ahead and place a minimum bid on it. That keeps the seller from ending the auction (if nobody has bid).

I don't use a snipe service, but I do wait until the last few seconds to throw out my bid. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

If you put in the max your willing to pay and someone bids higher weather they snipe or not if your higher you win ? or does this work differently than i think. i got cut off from ebay  for spending to much  can you believe that. i had to get there  paypal credit card to continue . IT came today  and took 2 weeks what a bunch of crap

If you put in a bid of let's say $20 and someone had a snipe bit of $19, then you will win provided they don't increase their bid. If you put in a max bid of $20 and the starting bid was $1, then your bid sits at $1 until someone bids more. If a snipe comes in at $16, then you will still win at $16.05 (or whatever the next increment is). If the snipe was for $20, then I think you still win because your bid was in first. If the snipe was for $21, then the other person will win, but they will have to pay $20.25 (or whatever the next icrement is).

I never heard of spending too much and being required to geta paypal CC.  :103-

 The statement is a little misleading. He had to get a paypal credit card and not tell his wife about it, so he could still shop on ebay  :97- :97-

www.BidNapper.com (http://www.BidNapper.com)   Learn it, Live it, Luv it....


Are you stuck needing a flat top kit?  I have for you what I believe to be a close to new, if not new, never made it to the floor, TD-Dollars kit w/ software....but it's a round top.  If you like blueberry pie, then it's for you...

got one already

Flat top only for me. Thanks for the offer though!

I use a combination of bidnapper and my finger. The advantage of setting a bid with one of the online services is that it will go through even if I forget, can't be online at the end of the auction, or am experiencing an internet connection problem when the auction is to end. If find myself online during the last few minutes of the auction, I cancel my bidnapper bid (because I'm a cheapskate and don't want to pay for the bidnapper service if I don't need it) and bid manually within the last 5 seconds, unless the auction is cutthroat and I really want the item. In those cases I'll let bidnapper handle it, as a form of insurance.

The other big advantage to using a service is that you can cancel your bid at any time, since there really is no bid. The online services only hold it for you, but don't submit it to fleaPay, so you can cancel or change your bid anytime before the last 5 minutes of the auction, when they cue up your bid for submission. Of course, if you bid manually in the last seconds, there is nothing to cancel or change. :5-

Using a service also helps to curb impulsive over-bidding, since it forces you to really think about how much you're willing to pay for something. You set your maximum price early, before there is any pressure, without disclosing your interest to any other bidders, and let the chips fall where they may.

I used bidnapper mostly when I was bidding on Star Trek items being auctioned off by itsawraphollywood. Those auctions were viciously cutthroat and items would often go up several hundred dollars in the last few seconds. Bidding on Slot parts auctions was child's play compared to those.

How does it work if multiple people are using the same snipe service and all have the same max bids?

boom

:97- :97- :97-

Bidnapper defaults to placing your bid a specific number of seconds before the end of the auction, but it can be changed by the user. So if one person placed their bid with 5 seconds left and another placed an identical bid with 3 seconds left, the earlier bidder would win, per eBay rules. I don't know what would happen if all parameters were identical, but I suspect it would be a crap shoot. Whichever bid ended up being sent to eBay first would win (assuming that no live bidder or sniper from another site outbid the two combatants.)

In practice, I doubt it happens much. Even in active auctions, there aren't really that many people bidding, and most of us "seasoned" bidders tend to add a few pennies and/or dollars to our bids just in case, making it even less likely to occur. Seriously, who bids $1500.00 for a hot item expected to reach that sale amount? $1500.01, $1501.01, $1503.26, etc. would all be more likely unless the bidder were a complete noob, as was our OP.

Keep in mind that all these snipe sites do is enter your bid for you at a specific time. From eBay's perspective, the bids are the same as if you entered them yourself, so it's not uncommon for a snipe bid to be rejected because the current bid on eBay has already surpassed it, or for you to never be the high bidder because someone else's earlier bid was higher than yours -- just as would have happened if the bid had been manually entered.

6 seconds left????  That sounds like an amateur!  LOL!  When I slam bid, I do it with 3 seconds or less left.  Always hurts when a slam bidder gets beat by another slam bidder! 

That is how eBay works.  The nice thing about waiting until the very end is that you do not get emotionally attached and start over bidding on the item.  When I slam bid, I make a decision up front on the amount I am going to spend and hit it at the last moment.  I lose often but at least I walk away without paying more than I wanted to!

e-bay.  The rule is ---There is no rule.  Gun'em down and take'em out.  I do not win many bids either on the few times I do bid.  I try to buy all my stuff BEFORE it hits the bay.  To many sniper programs out there to compete with.  Most time you would Over-pay on a hot-item. Probably good for the sellers though--- :89-.  Buy your "sheet" if you see it before it goes to the bay/elsewhere.  This was just a few of my cents--Thanks B.

For the record, I have a TD Dollars kit on the way. Being a rookie to ebay only meant I had to wait an extra week for this kit. Thank you all for the 2 cents you each put in... I also ordered a machine gun so I can try and gun down my next ebay bid with about 2 or 3 secs left!  :200-

Glad to see it worked out for you.
 
Thanks,
Wayne

Ebay and pay pal  done same to us wanted us to get a pay pal  cc  so now i send money orders which cost us nothing

You get money orders for free? And what about postage and gas to go go get/mail them?

But back to the topic of requiring a PayPal CC - what is the trigger? I've had my account for years and have spent thousands of dollars and still use my own CC (which I pay in full each month and rack up tons of rewards points).

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But back to the topic of requiring a PayPal CC - what is the trigger? I've had my account for years and have spent thousands of dollars and still use my own CC (which I pay in full each month and rack up tons of rewards points).
[/quote]  ITS  coming  to a theater near you . your days of using your card is numbed. NOTE *** I have never paid interest on a credit card . i always pay it off in full . My opinion is paypal  is now getting into the banking bussiness

We go to post office everyday  any way   but paypal told us we spent our limit and we needed a paypal card I also pay our cc bill in full every month , I don,t want another cc

Are there any facts to back this up, or is it just speculation?

Wake up. Paypal has been in the banking business since day one. What do you think they do with the hundreds of millions of dollars people have parked in their Paypal accounts every day? What else do you call a company that holds consumer cash and invests it for profit, while charging the consumers fees to transfer money? These clowns don't even pay interest on their deposit accounts! :58-

Like many innovative online companies, they fell through the cracks and weren't required to adhere to all of the tough regulations placed on the banking industry. They are covered under regulations governing the electronic transfer of funds, but I doubt that they are required to protect account holder funds with insurance in case of a meltdown, and I doubt that the types of investments in which they choose to speculate are overseen by anyone other than eBay's stockholders. There are probably a host of other banking regulations they don't have to worry about, either.

We had 18.99 refund to us thur ebay for a guy that tryed to beat us  that was a year ago last may till this day paypal still has our $$$ that ebay sent them , we paid by  cc  they want $$ to refund my  $$ and won,t let us use that 18.99 pay pal is a rip

huh?  :103- I'm not sure I understand. All I know is that if you are issued a refund on something, then PP will transfer the funds back to the original source. For example, if you used a CC for the payment, then they will refund it to the CC and nowhere else.

I think paypal puts a spending limit on any account that does not have a bank account or SS# on the account, when you apply for the ebay or paypal cc they get the SS#

I thought that you HAD to have a bank account linked with the PP account (for verification). At least that seems to be what I recall from years ago. But if that changed, then maybe that is why there are limits. The bank account I have on file never has more than about $50 in it (just enough to keep it open).

I don't know how it's done now, but when I first joined they imposed an account lifetime maximum of $1500 (or maybe $2500) if you only had a CC attached to the account. You had to add a bank account and become a verified user to lift the ban, but you could then continue to purchase items with your CC. I did what poppo did, and opened a dedicated inactive account with only a dollar in it. I wouldn't trust PayusPal as far as I could throw a ten ton truck .. .. with my tongue!  :96-  :58- :60-

we paid by cc they will not send it back  to cc we tryed for 19 bucks not worth the hours on the phone with some dot head that you can understand

I feel the same way.