Title: Wms 400 backplane 24c04 problem - no boot up & no error messages Post by: cfh on December 31, 2008, 11:04:44 PM So i'm working on a bunch of Williams model 40x machines.
I was warned when i bought them that they, "weren't easy fixes, this is the stuff that was deemed too much work for us to get going." hehehe. Man i like stuff like this. yea i know, i'm sick. but hey, ya gotta have a hobby right? anyway, when i got all these games i took all the boards out, and tested each one in a working game. marked the boards as "ok" or otherwise. Also took all the DBVs and updated them and tested them. And put all the power supplies in a pile and modified their cabling so a computer ATX could be plugged in. Also tested all the reels and all the coin comparitors. I'm still working on the hoppers (a lot of dollar hoppers that i need to convert.) So i have this big pile of tested parts, and all these "shell" games. So i put all the parts needed in one of the game, and test it with "Power 7s" firmware (this is good test software as it's only 4 chips, easy to put in and take out of a board for testing purposes. I can change it to a more desirable game after i get it working. And add dotmation if i so deem it necessary.) But the game does not work. I get the standard williams "bong" at boot up, but then a "zer-ring" error tone. No code on the red LEDs on the front door either. Nothing. That kind of sucks because there's no direction because there's no error statement or error code. I should mention that the red LEDs on the front door are checked upon bootup. They have a serial connection to the backplane. So the game knows if the red LEDs are missing or bad. Since i had no display there, i removed the LED board and tested it in another game to make sure it worked. These are rarely bad, but figured what the heck. It tested fine. So what's left to be "bad"? Well not much! Just the backplane board (or the wiring harness, which upon inspection was fine). So i removed the backplane and really the only component on this board is a single resistor and a 24c04 serial EPROM 8 pin chip. So i cut the chip off, desoldered the legs, and used a HIGH QUALITY commercial desoldering tool to clean out the chip holes. (That is an important point, because this board is a 4 layer board! That means it does not desolder easily. New solder has to be added, and then desoldered from both sides of the board using a GOOD desoldering tool.) Installed a 8 pin socket, and a new 24c04 serial EPROM chip. And bam, game now works! So bottom line is these chips do fail. And when they do, there's really no indication that the serial EPROM is the problem. I thought i would post this for future readers. Title: Re: Wms 400 backplane 24c04 problem - no boot up & no error messages Post by: Ohio Chad on August 26, 2009, 02:35:04 PM Was this machine in a dark red/maroon cabinet in a round top? I have 5 of them that are doing the exact same thing. Is it easier to change the prom or find the backplane to replace?
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