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I got the Williams Short Circuit working. Wow a really cool version
of IGT's Haywire. When you hit the jackpot symbol, often (but not
always) the game "short circuits". That is you get this electrical
shorting noise (very realistic sounding, like old monster movie
electrical sounds, unlike the retarded IGT haywire sounds),
and the reels go nuts. And i mean NUTS. like they shake and
rattle and spin in different directions. Much crazier than Haywire
(i have a Haywire for comparison). It can do multiple respins
in this manner too. A very cool game, and probably fairly rare.
Graphics are way better than Haywire too. Neat game!

(http://www.pinrepair.com/slots/wms/shortc1.jpg)

(http://www.pinrepair.com/slots/wms/shortc2.jpg)

(http://www.pinrepair.com/slots/wms/shortc3.jpg)

That's one I've never seen in a casino. Wonder why? I definitely would play it if I saw it!
The IGT Haywire sound is very distinctive and recognizable in a casino. But I wouldn't say it was retarded.  :97-

So it sounds as good as Haywire Deluxe on the S2000 platform?

PLEASE. no igt S+ or S2000 sounds any good
unless it has an added sound card. IGT S+ is
junk in comparison, and S2000 is barely as good
(and only after you buy backlit reels and a soundcard.)
Williams had GOOD sound and speech back
in 1995, and backlit reels, and real creative
themes that the game actually follows.
IGT barely had that nearly 10 years later.

See for yourself:
http://www.pinrepair.com/slots/wms/shortcircuit.wmv (http://www.pinrepair.com/slots/wms/shortcircuit.wmv)

Thanks for the video I was going to ask for one.. you're right that was much better than what IGT had during that era. If WMS had kept it up with development of new games like IGT did they may populate the casino floors the way IGT does now.

I'm spoiled, I have the MML2 in mine...  :89- :89- :71-

So why do you think Wms is dragging so far behind in popularity?

Not sure, WMS doesn't really have alot of reel machines, they have just a handfull of popular video machines. They seem to be making a come back with the 5 reel hot hot penny machines tho'

I don't bash IGT like cfh does, but I agree that the Williams reel machines of the late '90s kicked butt! I really enjoy my Dotmation games, and these non-dot machines are pretty cool, too. It is obvious that Williams cared a great deal about sounds and sound quality. They put massive speakers with powerful magnets into their trays, something that neither IGT nor Bally did. They also wrote very good original music for their jackpots. Each game has it's own jackpot song, and the ones I've heard are all very good. And did either Bally or IGT license and burn original soundtracks of popular music in the 1990s like Williams did with The Village People in Jackpot Party?

This game may be a rip-off of IGT's Haywire, but they did a good job. :3-

Williams was new to slot machines in the 1990s,
with their first game being released in 1995 (reel em in).
They were taken to court by IGT over it too.
Mostly because of the Telneas patent. What this
did was force williams into video slots, because
the Telneas patent does not apply to video slots.

When the Telneas thing was finally settled,
Wms lost. They had to stop using Telneas,
and this limited the size of the jackpot they
could deliver. Instead of 5000+ coins, the
most they could do with a 22 stop game was
like 1500 coins. This limited their popularity
of their spinning reel games.

Also IGT had like 80% market share. It's been
said that was largely due to payoffs on Nevada
gaming. The fact that Telneas was "ok" by
Nevada is WEIRD. Telneas was "illegal" from
1984 to 1990 for everyone else that owned
the patent. But when IGT got it, all a sudden
it was "legal". yea sure. i smell payoff!

Anyway this forced Wms into video slots, which
they exceled at. I mean they were a pinball
and video game company. And it moved the whole
industry away from spinning reel to video slots.
Now IGT (who just shot themselves in the foot!)
was playing catch-up to williams in video slots.
And now Wms probably has as much (if not more)
marketshare than IGT with video slots.

Well i'm kind of glad that Wms didn't make as many
titles as IGT. i mean IGT seemed to have a "flavor of
the week", in regards to titles. Wms stayed much more
focused. Also all Wms games have a 'hook'. That is,
there is something special about each one. They are
not just clones of each other with slight deviations
to paytables.

Wms would come up with a theme, and take advantage
of it. For example, let's take IGT's red, white & blue.
Ok so what's so patroitic about that game?? Other than
red, white and blue graphics and paytable, it's not different
than any other non-nudge IGT game. Wms on the other
hand had a "hook" for each game, and took full advantage
of the game's theme with features, music, and graphics
that accentuated the theme.

Williams was new to slot machines in the 1990s,
with their first game being released in 1995 (reel em in).


This is not true, Williams had slots way before this, early 70's I believe to compete with Bally E/M's they just didn't continue making slots, both Bally and WMS made copies of the pinballs they made previously, the early Williams were not pinball copies, but Bally did, such as the Monte Carlo, they have got their money's worth on that one as they still use it, I noticed someone just posted their gameroom pics and had a MC EM Pin

yes true when williams was owned by Seeburg, they
made slots. i believe this was the late 1970s. i discount
those though, as they were a different thing. the
chain drive hoppers caused a lot of headaches, and
these seeburg/williams slots are very forgetable.

I try my best to be objective when looking at a manufacture's machine.

The sound on the WMS is superior, no doubt! Well designed games. Backlit reels are great too, and should be standard equipment.
It looks like WMS was using a Ballys type layout. Small rectangular buttons. Even the lines in the chrome above the belly glass remind me of Ballys.
I find the graphics on most of their glass a bit busy.

As far as pleasing to the eye, I would give IGT the nod. Their graphics designs are, IMO, the best for the most part. But no backlit reels or SIMMS sound on S+ sucks and they are extra on the S2000 when they shouldn't be. Again, IMO.

I wonder what the price of these machines new were? Maybe that was a reason you see more of one manufacture vs another?

Considering all of the stories and information that we've read here over the last few years from different members, I'd guess that politics and bullying had more to do with it than price. Of course, I could be mistaken... :103- 

Short Circuit is the name of a Movie with Billy Crystal.
Copy Write Infringement but someone......
Of course there is allways WallE which is a rip off of Short Circuit.

Billy Crystal??  Do you mean Steve Guttenberg?

:)

Dan #2

Steve Guttenberg? Do you mean Ally Sheedy?  :96- :97- :97- :97- :97- :97-   (Who bothered looking at Mr. Guttenberg? :5- :30- :30-)

I have this movie on VHS. I recorded it from a television broadcast sometime in the last millennium. :127-  (I just posted about Blu-Ray discs -- talk about going retro!)

I ended up with this machine, working fine and for sale $400.00

   Anyone looking ?

  :137-  U.S.Auto Service
      Dan

Also don't forget the WMS uses the DBV 200's that are 4 way acceptance and is up-gradable to the new color $5.00's

Something you can't do with even the newer S+ machine.  :30-

It's funny to see this being said here on NLG over 3 years ago
and what we see in the casino's now... :96-