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Title: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: Captain Hook on August 17, 2011, 03:00:49 AM
Title says it all if the price is right.

I saw one a while back but the price was way too pricey for me.


Captain Hook






Moderator: Moved old classified post to the Wms video board because the thread contains useful information. SF :31-


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: idesign on August 18, 2011, 11:34:50 AM
If you are referring to the OLED button deck last I saw they were around $600.  They are problematic, are not compatible with earlier versions of the OS, and required a BB2 cpu.


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: Slotmaster on August 18, 2011, 01:00:22 PM
If you are referring to the OLED button deck last I saw they were around $600.  They are problematic, are not compatible with earlier versions of the OS, and required a BB2 cpu.
Jeff let me clear that up.

Works on BB1 too

Now going from OS 14xx to 16xx games you have to flash the deck, that is the only paid in the but part about it. 

They work fine as long as they are not abused, so if you get a good one from the start you should be good from there.

I have not seen any for sale for sometime, I know that you can get them as-is for $600 but that is a pricy risk.
 


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: idesign on August 18, 2011, 01:40:55 PM

Jeff let me clear that up.

Works on BB1 too

Now going from OS 14xx to 16xx games you have to flash the deck, that is the only paid in the but part about it. 

They work fine as long as they are not abused, so if you get a good one from the start you should be good from there.

I have not seen any for sale for sometime, I know that you can get them as-is for $600 but that is a pricy risk.
 

OK, so they work on BB1 as long as you are using SSSG 14XX or 16XX OS meaning only most of the newer games?


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: Slotmaster on August 18, 2011, 03:48:44 PM

Jeff let me clear that up.

Works on BB1 too

Now going from OS 14xx to 16xx games you have to flash the deck, that is the only paid in the but part about it. 

They work fine as long as they are not abused, so if you get a good one from the start you should be good from there.

I have not seen any for sale for sometime, I know that you can get them as-is for $600 but that is a pricy risk.
 

OK, so they work on BB1 as long as you are using SSSG 14XX or 16XX OS meaning only most of the newer games?

Yes

The only thing you need is an OS that has a "G" in it.

Like SSG-OS-1660

So older games that use SSG OS will work fine with the OLED panel.

When going from older SSG games to newer you need to update the panel from Firmware 2 to firmware 3, I have not tried older games with firmware 3 yet but can do so shortly.

The nice thing about the OLED panel is that it does not need SPN hardware for the EBB setup, however the thing takes ages to boot and setup the panel.


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: PWRSTROKE on August 18, 2011, 10:57:00 PM
I have been looking at this post/request and others simular and I would say that the slotmaster knoes his BB games.  Interesting to know on this topic.  I do not have any BB's but have thought about getting a newer platform one.  K+ slotmaster.  B.


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: Slotmaster on August 19, 2011, 11:01:25 AM
Yes I can tell you first hand that they are cool, but really adds to the boot time of the game. 

Some games have more detail than others...


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: jdkmunch on August 24, 2011, 10:57:35 AM
How much longer could it actually make the boot time???? 

It already takes 5 minutes +  to boot -     I usually go wash the car and take a shower and it's still isn't ready when I return


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: Slotmaster on August 24, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
good to go watch a 30 min show on the DVR


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: stayouttadabunker on August 24, 2011, 01:45:53 PM
There's something seriously wrong with the computer design should such an
expensive machine take so frigging long to boot up.  :60-
Can't the microprocessor be upgraded to something a little faster perhaps?


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: StatFreak on August 24, 2011, 02:12:26 PM
It's all those hardware and security checks.  :47-

I heard that the Bluebird sends its bird out to fly around the house and assess the situation before fully committing to its boot sequence. :30-  :200-
   :274-          :208- :208- :208-


SF :31-


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: Slotmaster on August 24, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
The panel adds time, it depends on the game but most will boot in 5 - 10 min, if the panel is first seeing a new game it downloads the buttons to memory, thats when it takes the most time.  After that its about 10 - 15 tops.

They say good things take time and the game by far is the best of the pack (video).

my 2c


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: StatFreak on August 25, 2011, 09:52:00 AM
The panel adds time, it depends on the game but most will boot in 5 - 10 min, if the panel is first seeing a new game it downloads the buttons to memory, thats when it takes the most time.  After that its about 10 - 15 tops.

They say good things take time and the game by far is the best of the pack (video).

my 2c



Still, it sounds like a perfect candidate for the "leave on all the time" crowd. :89-

It is a very cool button deck and machine. Wms products always seems to have better products and ideas than the competition. :79-


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: stayouttadabunker on August 25, 2011, 11:24:33 AM
When I first saw these tiny LCD's in the buttons spinning reels ( although it was just in black with a yellowed background)
I thought that was pretty cool and wanted to see if I could make one.
I fooled around with some cheap $5 Japanese LCD screens you can get on ebay as picture displays but they were all
just a touch too large to actually fit comfortably inside the top of a button lens.

I was watching a few ladies playing one of these machines and pointed out to one of the cool reels spinning in a button-
they basically said "oh...that's okay I guess"  :72-

Even though we know what kind of amazing technology is needed to
make a button display spinning reels -
the ladies have actually zero interest in the button.  :96-

At this point in time, I could not see myself spending $600 for a button deck like that.... :60-


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: jdkmunch on August 25, 2011, 11:09:27 PM
Stayout I think your 100% correct

My wife could care less about the button deck - The bulbs could be burned out and they could be missing the line indicators and she couldn't care less.

I was in a casino early this week and I noticed that at least 5 Blue Birds had their repeat button not working AND several actually had COMPUTER PRINTOUTS for the line denominations. 


I was horrified and moved on to another machine where she happily played on.



Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: stayouttadabunker on August 25, 2011, 11:57:57 PM
It is amazing at how crappy they maintain the machines in casinos.  :5-
When I got my DD haywire the first time, I went to a casino
and tried to play one for real.
I was intermediately taken back at how horribly faded
and scratched the strips were!?!?!?!

I'm sure the strips were the non-washable type but somebody
obviously wiped them to crap!  :30-
Yet, that machine stayed there forever
and then I saw later on that it was moved to the higher
denomination section where people were betting as much as
$15 per spin on such a terrible looking machine!!!!  :25-


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: jdkmunch on August 26, 2011, 12:01:26 AM
Yep - you would be surprised though - we're in the minority

Most people just happily go through and don't notice a thing.


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: StatFreak on August 26, 2011, 10:51:39 AM
Yep - you would be surprised though - we're in the minority

Most people just happily go through and don't notice a thing.

Don't forget the gorilla. People see what they concentrate on, what interests them, or what they wish to see.


Still, I don't understand why people play machines with crappy reel strips and/or no sound (unless they have a headache :97-). After all, those are the two things that players focus on while playing, and they are paying to be entertained while trying to win money.

It's like paying to see a movie on a torn screen with a blurry picture when the same movie is playing next door in focus on a clean screen. :60-


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: zarobhr on August 26, 2011, 03:46:13 PM
i wont play a machine that the sound quality sucks. i also like to set the volume as loud as possible if i have the choice.


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: StatFreak on August 26, 2011, 05:49:28 PM
i wont play a machine that the sound quality sucks. i also like to set the volume as loud as possible if i have the choice.

If there is only one machine of a certain type (or if it's the only one free) and there's no sound, I'll call an attendant to adjust the volume. After all, I'm a paying customer. :89-


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: CaptainHappy on August 26, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
i wont play a machine that the sound quality sucks. i also like to set the volume as loud as possible if i have the choice.

If there is only one machine of a certain type (or if it's the only one free) and there's no sound, I'll call an attendant to adjust the volume. After all, I'm a paying customer. :89-

Unless you happen to win of course, then you are a leach! :72-

I ask them to adjust it too, but you know that. You have watched me teach them how to work on the machines before! :5- :208-

CH :95-


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: StatFreak on September 29, 2011, 02:23:02 AM
Moved old classified to Wms Video slot board and changed the subject.


StatFreak :31-
:nlg-  Global Moderator



Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: superparts on November 17, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
I have these BB2 button decks at a discounted rate if anyone is interested.


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: blueridgeslots on November 17, 2011, 09:25:19 PM
I have these BB2 button decks at a discounted rate if anyone is interested.


How much for the OLED Dynamic Button Deck?


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: superparts on November 21, 2011, 02:07:10 PM
If you are referring to the OLED button deck last I saw they were around $600.  They are problematic, are not compatible with earlier versions of the OS, and required a BB2 cpu.
Jeff let me clear that up.

Works on BB1 too

Now going from OS 14xx to 16xx games you have to flash the deck, that is the only paid in the but part about it. 

They work fine as long as they are not abused, so if you get a good one from the start you should be good from there.

I have not seen any for sale for sometime, I know that you can get them as-is for $600 but that is a pricy risk.
 

I can the OLED 13 button panel with 90 day warranty for $400 + shipping and handling.


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: superparts on November 21, 2011, 02:09:25 PM
I have these BB2 button decks at a discounted rate if anyone is interested.


How much for the OLED Dynamic Button Deck?

$400 + shipping and handling 90 day replacement warranty!   Email me for a quick response.


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: Slotmaster on November 22, 2011, 11:37:00 AM
I think the WMS was not going for the wow factor rather the ability of the casino to change themes and not have to mess with the deck.  The easier to change reduces downtime, labor and waste.   However when you add technology you add complexity and if the design is not 100% commercial grade you get paper print outs on the broken buttons.   At first WMS did not sell the parts for the decks only full replacements which only lasted for a short while since the failure rate was higher than expected (guessing).   

I have one deck for sale its a NEW gold deck for a slant top for $500 (paid that)


Title: Re: Info about LCD Button Panel for Bluebird Video Slots
Post by: ChizzleMonkey on December 06, 2011, 12:29:57 PM
Most of the problems I've come across with the WMS OLED button panels, aside from the longer boot time, are the broken PLASTIC button actuators or the broken bezels. Sometimes the tiny little lcd module gets slammed hard enough that it needs to be replaced too. You can buy them individually and fix the panels yourself, it's not very difficult to do. Now you can buy just the button panel circuit board. WMS also has a nifty little program that allows the download of the firmware to the panel or to the buttons. You just install the program on a computer and plug the button panel to it through the usb port. IMHO, the best button panel on the market right now is the Bally iDeck. That thing can take a beating as well as too many drinks.