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Title: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: jdkmunch on August 28, 2011, 11:38:12 PM
I would like to ask everyone's opinion on this - I have a couple of slot machines -  

on one of the machines I notice this oxidatoin on the inside.  There seems to be much more rust on this reel touch than the other machines.  I'm assuming that this machine was played much more
  1 because it's older and 2 because they were popular games

my question is this -  regardless of how this oxidation and rust got there (it's all over the inside of the door too)      Is it anything I should be concerned about -  spreading?     Like StayOuttadaBunker said in another post  - this machine is like a classic car to me  and I'd like to pass it on to my son one day.

1.   Is there anyway to remove this oxidation?

2.  On a separate note the door of this reel touch has many more scratches than my other machines -  can it be re-chromed? or how much is an S2000 door (**and difficult to change****)  in better condition?   

I'd love to change it but there is an awful lot of stuff on there


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: stayouttadabunker on August 29, 2011, 12:56:04 AM
I don't know how to get rid of oxidization of the metals Munch
but I'm thinking that some type of liquid they use to neutralize it? :129-
Maybe like the stuff they use at automotive shops to clean car batteries might work? 
I'll defer to someone that really knows what they're talking about.  :89-
I'm just trying to help ya with ideas in any way I can...  :5-


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: Bettor Slots on August 29, 2011, 01:09:06 AM
Just takes a small nick or scratch on metals and in the right conditions it will spread like wild fire.  These are located in your basement right?  Are you running a dehumidifier?


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: Yoeddy1 on August 29, 2011, 01:43:18 AM
Just paint over it.  ;)

Jason


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: cowboygames on August 29, 2011, 01:55:28 AM
Munch, I've got a good chrome door you can have for the cost of shipping. It'll take you about an hour to transfer all the buttons and what not over from your current door, but the chrome on this one is in very good shape. Send me a PM if interested


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: jdkmunch on August 29, 2011, 10:56:31 AM
Thanks!  I'm sending cowboy a PM -

My machines are in the basement - however it's finished and has central air and heat -  there is no moisture issue at all - 

I believe that this is from drink spills  -   



Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: stayouttadabunker on August 29, 2011, 11:51:52 AM
Yoeddy mentioned painting over it but rust WILL go through paint in time.
I think stores that carry paint would have some sort of spray like "Rustoleum" or something like that?
I don't know if it helps with the oxidization though...


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: jdkmunch on August 29, 2011, 12:28:49 PM
Here's a pic of the machine for cowboy












Moderator note: I stood the machine up for ya'. SF :31-  Now my back hurts. :97-


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: Bettor Slots on August 29, 2011, 12:50:22 PM
I have a reel shelf I can give you.


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: jdkmunch on August 29, 2011, 12:54:15 PM
I didn't try to clean it yet -  let me see what happens


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: StatFreak on August 29, 2011, 01:48:09 PM
Here's a pic of the machine for cowboy
Munch, after 2189 posts, you still leave your machines resting on their sides?  :200- :30- (you know you asked for it!) :208- :208- :208-



Bunker, Rustoleum will coat the metal and prevent rust from forming, but the existing rust would need to be completely removed beforehand. Once that's done, he probably won't need the paint.

What do our pros do to clean their machines? I know that the seller from whom I bought my first machines pulled out everything and steam cleaned the insides of the cabinets. I think one can also sand down the rust.

That's what I did with my Gamemaker, but the inside of the door is still somewhat funky. However, I'm not as picky (at the moment) about its condition as you are about yours, so you'd have to do more than I did, or possibly take Cowboy up on his offer for a replacement door.


Stat :31-


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: Yoeddy1 on August 29, 2011, 02:03:34 PM
409, sandpaper, lacquer thinner, acetone, and a gob of paper towel. 

Jason


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: jdkmunch on August 29, 2011, 09:09:54 PM
I've cleaned it with some brillo -and it came right off and looks good -

My question for the experts is this:  Is this something I have to worry about?  -  Is this the start of rust infestation?  Or the machine is 20 years old and it will be fine for the next 100 years?

Also -  Has anyone come across something like this?


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: Bettor Slots on August 29, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
The rust at the bottom center of your cabinet I have seen often.  It's the result of a drink spill that sat there.  I know this for certain because you can trace the spill discoloration from the reel glass, down the belly glass light cover, to the bottom center of the cabinet usually.  The white oxidation is more from moisture in the air.  I know you said in an earlier post that you basement is "finished and has AC".  I can tell you that any basement has significant humidity, especially if your home was built more than 10 years ago.  In recent years we use polymer based sealers on the outsides of basement walls that helps to some extent.  But I would bet there is more moisture in your air than you think.  If you didn't have this oxidation to the same extent when you got you machine as compared to now...well it has to be coming from moisture in the air.  

Bottom line though...long term I don't think it could really get so bad to the point that the machine is going to fall apart...it would half to be sitting outside for years for that to happen.


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: Yoeddy1 on August 29, 2011, 09:39:39 PM
Or the machine is 20 years old and it will be fine for the next 100 years?

Munch, are you making plans to be able to pull the handle from 6 feet under?  LOL!

Jason


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: jdkmunch on August 29, 2011, 09:51:37 PM
you can trace the spill discoloration from the reel glass, down the belly glass light cover, to the bottom center of the cabinet usually.  

This is certainly there -

I'm going to guess that a drink sat in this for quite a while.   I'm discounting the moisture only because I had the place renovated when I moved in and know what's going on behind the walls.   Also this machine sits next to an S+ that's been in the same location for at least an additional year and it does not show any signed of this  -- none of my other machines do as a matter of fact


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: jdkmunch on August 29, 2011, 09:56:51 PM
heee heee

Actually I am... I would love to pass my collection on to my son one day.   (He'll probably sell them for scrap metal after i croak)

These machines will be classic in 30 years - and I'll only be 67

if my dad had a mills or classic machine ....... ohhh I'd love LOVE one of those old machines


Title: Re: Slot Machine Oxidation -
Post by: StatFreak on August 30, 2011, 08:13:00 AM
Why not buy an inexpensive digital hygrometer and stick it in your basement? If it has an upper and lower memory, so much the better. Then you'll be able to keep an eye on your basement's humidity.

You can probably get one at S#^% Shack for a few bucks.