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Title: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 12:13:58 AM
I just cleared and did a set denom on my double diamond machine and when I got to the part for payback %, all it had to offer was 99.3%, so I went with that. After all my other settings was complete, the machine cycled as it should then I got this error. Anyone know how to resolve this?

Thanks,

David


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
I just cleared and did a set denom on my double diamond machine and when I got to the part for payback %, all it had to offer was 99.3%, so I went with that. After all my other settings was complete, the machine cycled as it should then I got this error. Anyone know how to resolve this?

Thanks,

David

Are you using a SB001000 chip and a S-Plus SS chip?


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 12:33:35 AM
not my decision, but that is what was in the machine when I got it, so yes.


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 12:42:27 AM
not my decision, but that is what was in the machine when I got it, so yes.
What SS chip?


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 12:45:57 AM
the chip in this board says:
ST0014 TYPE 0/14
04/28/95 (1-64)
1995 IGT  NV


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 12:50:16 AM
the chip in this board says:
ST0014 TYPE 0/14
04/28/95 (1-64)
1995 IGT  NV

St0014 tournament chip will not work in a s2000. We have all tried it with no success!! Put a regular SS chip in and you will be good to go.


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 12:52:35 AM
will a sp 1271 work?


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 12:54:26 AM
also have a ss4705 if that is a better one


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 12:59:34 AM
will a sp 1271 work?

No

SP are game chips for the S-Plus only. You can use S-Plus SS reel chips with the SB001000. The St0014 should be replaced with a ss3362 or any other Double Diamond 3cm SS chip

SS4100
 98 (97.929)
 14.785
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 6.76
 
SS3664
 97.405 ()
 14.785
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 6.76
 
SS4634
 96.231 (96.159)
 14.546
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 6.87
 
SS3436
 95.084 (95.012)
 14.546
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 6.87
 
SS3634
 95.084 (95.012)
 14.546
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 6.87
 
SS3631
 92.584 (92.513)
 14.271
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 7.01
 
SS7117
 90.95 (90.878)
 13.945
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 7.17
 
SS3438
 90.103 (90.032)
 13.945
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 7.17
 
SS3632
 90.103 (90.032)
 13.945
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 7.17
 
SS3633
 87.557 (87.485)
 13.572
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 7.37
 
SS3635
 85.096 (85.024)
 13.294
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (24)
 7.52
 
SS8088
 80.116 (80.044)
 13.052
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (28)
 7.66
 
SS8087
 75.08 (75.009)
 12.449
 (72) AAA
 800/1600/2500 (8)
 320/640/960 (36)
 8.03
 




Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 01:02:53 AM
SS4705 is a double black Jack.

Lets back up.....

What game glass is in the machine that you are trying to get working?? A double Diamond 3 cm as stated in the first post ???


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 01:07:54 AM
it is a double diamond 3 coin. The tournament ss chip is what came with the machine. The only other SS chips I have are:

ss4705
ss6289
ss6291
ss3668
ss8189
ss7848
ss7549

Can I use one of these?


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 01:09:02 AM
If it is the Double Diamond 3cm, you can pull out the st0014 and the SB001000 and replace it with a single chip ... SB100054 That way it will be running s2000 software


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 01:13:48 AM
unfortunately, I do not have a sb100054 either, is there any other way to set it up tp play with what I currently have?


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 01:17:12 AM
it is a double diamond 3 coin. The tournament ss chip is what came with the machine. The only other SS chips I have are:

ss4705 double black jack
ss6289 triple diamond deluxe
ss6291 triple diamond deluxe
ss3668 black jack
ss8189 triple dollars

ss7848 10 time pay
ss7549  triple RWB

Can I use one of these?

NO Sorry. 6289 and 6291 would be close but not the correct payout as the strips are different. But the machine would work, you just would not know what you are winning.  :96-


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 01:20:54 AM
All I am really wanting to do to this machine is get it to take quarters, I have already installed the coin head, hopper and coin mech. I did notice that the only other choice on the payback % was to disable it. Is that an option that I can use or will that not work?


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 01:29:23 AM
All I am really wanting to do to this machine is get it to take quarters, I have already installed the coin head, hopper and coin mech. I did notice that the only other choice on the payback % was to disable it. Is that an option that I can use or will that not work?

The ST chip will not work at all!!! it is a Tournament chip for the S-Plus platform ONLY. SB001000 is a generic chip that allows the use of SS reel chips from the s-plus. In the S-plus the reel chip determines the game title and percentage. The SP chip was the game chip that determined the game type, nudge, plain, spin till you win ect. In the S2000 the SB chip determines the game title and has all the payback percentages on it and the SG chips 1&2 are the game types. I suggest you get rid of the ST and the SB001000 and put a single SB100054 chip in it and set it up to do what ever you want it to do and at the percentage you want.


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: BR549 Auto Sales on November 10, 2011, 01:32:11 AM
fair enough, will do.

Thanks for the help and info.


Title: Re: "payback percentage is too high" error message after clear/set
Post by: coorslight115 on November 10, 2011, 02:01:29 AM
fair enough, will do.

Thanks for the help and info.

You will have one in the morning mail to help you out.

Good night all !!