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im buying a slant top on friday and wanna know what type of igt and what its worth.and is it easily changed to a different game thanks in advance
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/tag/2660031326.html (http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/tag/2660031326.html) thats the link with pictures

ok from what ive found its a s plus?

i can't go to craigs list since i'm on a work computer right now but if you're looking at an S+ slant then i don't think you'll have any trouble getting parts and games for it.  i think the S+ is probably the most popular model in the home owner market right now and dozens (maybe hundreds) of the members here at :nlg-  have them.  i've seen loads of discussions and helpful walk throughs  on this site over the past few years and i doubt you will ever run into a problem with your machine that 10 or more other :nlg-  members haven't already figured out.
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well whats the easiest way to tell the difference?

not sure what you're asking for a difference in  :103-  if you want to know the difference between an S+ and an S2000 then...

easiest way for me to tell an S+ from an S2000 is the VFD. you probably have no idea what a VFD is though.  :96-
on the front of the machine along the lower part of the reel glass is there only a 7 segment type display?  if it has a blue colored display on the lower left part of the reel glass as well as a 7 seg then it is an S2000; if there is no blue display and only a 7 seg then it's an S+, or maybe an S model.
also see if the machine has a bill acceptor built into it or if it's hanging out on the side of the machine, that would help identify it as well.

I'm pretty sure it's a S+  And yes game changes are pretty easy. Before you do a game change you will need to get a clear and set chip. Clear will most times never be used but get one just in case.

You ask and your not going to like my ans.  Me I wouldn't give over $100 for a S+ slant top.  If you lived on the West Coast I have about 10 of them I'd give you, and most of them are in working order. Don't get me wrong I would rather play a slant top any day over a upright machine. But most folks don't want one in their homes. They think they are to big and take up to much room. Truth of the matter is they are 1 inch wider than a slot stand and stick out in the room 10 inch's further than a slot stand. But take into consideration when your playing one you sit much closer and in fact take up less room than a upright and chair. A slant top is heavy, 300+ pounds and a bitch to move around.

I'm sure all my rambling above isn't going to change your mind and the machine will soon have a new home.  Wild Cherry is a nice game, so please post pictures and please post if you ever have any questions about the machine. No one on this site will throw rocks at you because you have a slant top.

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Kforman  See if this works.

yeah i actually prefer the slant tops,its more of a memory thing from sittin at the casino every weekend with my grandma.And yeah ill have lots of questions,i used to work at a casino but that was 10 years ago but forgot most of what i learned with the codes ect. And here in WI slot machines are tough to come by only thing you find is those japan (pashino) machines

thegambler, I am going to answer your PM in this post for the benefit of others.  I do not think $500.00 is worth it for a slant top.  I had a few and was happy to get $200.00 for them if the person came and took it away.  The door is heavy to open and I almost amputated a toe with the access panel to the hopper.  Anyone that has these machines will know what I am talking about.

In the craigslist post the seller stated the bill acceptor needed to be cleaned.  In my opinion I think it has old software and will only take 1's and old 5's.  He may think it needs to be cleaned because it rejects newer currency or he may just be trying to pull the wool over your head but I would anticipate changing the DBV.  Knowing the age of that machine it may have a DBV-145 which can not be upgraded.

The hoppers are also a PAIN!!!

Not that i dont like the machine I just think that you can bargain with getting it less than $500.00.

Just my opinion.

If you wanted to drive to northern kentucky, I'd sell you two of them for that price  :200-

If you like playing slant tops, by all means get one but that price does seem very high. I'm sure areas of the country are different though, we are lucky enough here in ohio/kentucky that there are a lot of vendors.

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Holy Moly! Bring a couple of football players with you man!
Those slant top sit-down machines are...heavy!
If not, a very, very strong dolly might do the trick.  :89-

well i got him down to 400 so i can live with that the machine is from 95 and the bvd just needs 2 be cleaned.its actually a friend of mine who im buying it from he had it all gone through about 4 or 5 years ago. But actually in WI a slot machine is supposed to be 25 years or older and they are tough to come by,and i even checked IL and the prices were either the same or higher.But its my 1rst of many to come,and have to start somewhere.but thanks for all the info and im sure ill have tons of questions when it come to upgrading

 :105-  on the purchase!! :133- :133-

i'm sure you will enjoy your first machine...  :189- :189-  it's even got a few wild cherries to pop!! :117- :117- :117-

ok it has the 145 bvd so can i buy a new 1 that accepts the newer bills? now as far as changing it over what do i all need ?as far as chips? and will the s2000 glass fit? and my last question for the day how do i adjust the jackpot/cashout. i figured out the hopper limit already,it was only set at 200.what i would like to do is have anything over say 400 be a jackpot so i can just reset it

Don't plug your DBV power supply in the wrong way! If you do, it will blow out some parts and it will not be a fun thing!  :37-
I managed to do that to my recently acquired S plus slant top "Moneystorm." Most everyone here knows what happened and without them, I would have been clueless!
But I still love my slant top even though my back is still hurting from thinking I could "pivot" it up into the truck on my own!
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And, the front hatch did come down and break the previous owner's toe!
When you start to take things apart, don't force anything - there's release thingys for everything: lid, top glass (when you work on the bv), and that wonderful front hatch.

yeah i found the release for the top even though i didnt even try it yet,im not goona till my new glass gets here.and yeah they are heavy im just fortunate enough to have enough friends so 4 of us moved it from the trailer  to in my house and still was a back breaker!

so as far as dbv im guessing i can get the 200 model? and that will take the newer bills? im gonna start by changing out the game and glass and reels and work my way from there.So as far as changing the game its only gonna be 2 chips correct?i ordered them today and he said thats all i needed but always looking for a little reassurance

NO  that's not all your going to need, for sure your going to need a set chip and while your at it get a clear chip.  DBV 200 will take most new bills, but will not take the purple 5.

a SS reel chip and a SP game chip thats what i ordered yesterday.
so i need a ram clear and a dbv set chip also?found some online IGT S-Plus Clear123 chip and One Bill Validator Set15 Chip would those be the correct chips? and do i need the bvd chip now?because i plan on changing the bvd down the road

so any1 do i have to change both those chips?just for the game im not concerned with the dbv at this time.

ok i have a igt slant top with the 145 dbv it takes in the bill but wont accept any,i tried cleanin the optics with water and cue tip didnt help, sounds like everything is working when i power it up.it did work at 1 time from the guy i bought it from and said it just stopped accepting bills. i know a little about slots but am learning alot from this site and learning as a go. so any ideas would be helpfull,maybe a dipswitch setting? if so please explain how i go about setting it up.ive tried 1s and 20s i know that it wont accept the new 5s already from reading on here

Take a look at this thread, for more reasons than fixing a DBV.   http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4226.msg8620#msg8620

yeah i saw that thread,the dbv cycles when i turn it on the light comes on it takes the bills in but wont accept them,it does try to read them and spits them back out

You may or may not know that a 145 will not accept any type of newer currency.  Try a $1.00 and see if it accept that.

yeah tried the 1$ bill did the same thing

I'm not quite sure what you're asking here.  What chips are you talking about changing?

A clear chip is good to have on hand, but is almost never needed.  Please do yourself and all of us a favor and NEVER use the clear chip unless specifically instructed to do so by a knowledgeable member of this forum.  There are only a few specific (and pretty rare) occasions that you need to use a clear chip.  Please see this post (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=11477.0) for more details on that topic.

A SET chip is needed to activate the DBV ("Dollar Bill Validator") if it is not active.  If your machine is currently accepting bills, you do not need to use a SET chip at this time, however it is also good to have on hand because if you ever change the SP chip on the removable MPU board (circuit board) inside the machine (for example, when changing your game from "Wild Cherries" to "Haywire" (or another game kit of a different game type)), you'll need to reactivate the DBV.

oh...I thought he was asking about activating his Fruit Of The Looms... :97-


Sorry...It was driving me a little batty seeing Dollar Bill Validators spelled that way...lol

Check out the link on the top menu - Rick's FAQ Files
It will tell you everything you need to know about IGT S+ slots.
Normally you will only need to change the SP game eprom when you switch to a different game type, like going from your Wild Cherry which is a Type 0 game to, say a Type 2 game like Haywire or Chaos which re-spins certain payouts.
If you get, say a SP1271 eprom, that will cover all Type 0, 1, 4, 5, and 19 games.
So for all Type 0 games, just change the SS Reel eprom, award glass and reel strips.
Also a S2000 slant glass will not fit.
I love my S+ slant, it is a real workhorse...I have 45 different games for it.
But I will have to agree, even $400 is a bit steep...I paid $80 for mine here in MI.

Here is a slant top kit on Ebay right now - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220899328112 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220899328112)
10X Pay kit complete with new reel strips.
Its a bit pricey for the BIN price with shipping though.

any other ideas? i read about dipswitches? im not sure where and how to check them

ok i changed out the game no problems at all. all i had to do was the reel chip glass and reel strips. I still need help with thedbv,sorry to was to lazy with the spelling been working 70 hours a week and im tired :8- . so my problem is still wont accept any bills,it takes them in tries to read them and spits them back out,ive tried 1s older 20s ect nothing. i cleaned the optics didnt help its plugged in and cycles when i turn it on,the lights come on.So what do i try next?

Take the DBV Head out
Taking out the center screw between the 2 thumb screws will allow the head to come out, do not forget to unplug the 3 harnesses
There are 2 banks of dip switches on the bottom of the DBV
Find the one with 10 switches change the position of switch 10.
If on flip off, if off flip on, use a small screwdriver to make it easy to change.
Off = ID 23 On = 22
Most SP chips use ID 23 but some still use ID 22 (Different Communication protocols)
Re-install the DBV and see if it helps if not just change the switch back.
 

ok theres 2 sets 1-8  # 1 is on the rest are off and then 1-2 those are both off

I am guessing that it is not a JCM DBV-200
is it a 145?
IF not then my previous post will not apply.

Per reply #14, it is.

Is there any indication on the DBV as to what ID it's programmed for?

Don't forget that the DBV145 will only take bills in one direction. They must be face up with the top of the portrait's head facing right.

First, make sure that you turn off ALL of the dip switches. If number 1 (of 8) is on, that will disable $1 bills.

Then try a decent $1 bill in the correct direction. If memory serves, a $1 bill should work even if the protocol is set incorrectly (ID022/023).

model dbv-145-ss-6031-b022
serial number 412277913
ac117v 60hz 30va
ok i got it accepting 1s!!!! so what kind of bills should work now?and how do i upgrade to the dbv200?

Aah, thank you -- I meant to look up the DIP switch settings as I was wondering if $1s were disabled, and clearly they were!  K+ to you.



Any "old style" bills (that is, NO large portraits).  Any bill that looks similar in styling to a current-day $1 bill should work.

To upgrade to a DBV 200, you need to physically swap out the bill validator in your machine for the newer model (and will likely have to change the power supply as well, unless your machine is using a power supply with vents in it to power the DBV 145 (not likely)).  You can place an ad in the classifieds section (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=5.0) stating that you have an IGT S+ slant top machine with a DBV 145 and that you're looking to upgrade it to a DBV 200 -- one of the vendors who frequents the site will have the parts you need.

yeah i couldnt remember when they switched it over i thought it was after 2000 but guess not

as far as swapping the DBV is that just the head or the whole assembly? and am i gonna have to switch any programs/chips? and how easy is this to do,im a welder by trade and not a electrician and paranoid about screwing up my igt

I'm 99% sure you just need a new head assembly (I believe that the transport is the same between the DBV-145 and the DBV-200), and a new power supply (you need the one with vents -- the non-vented power supplies do not have enough juice to power the DBV-200).  It should be a simple swap -- just be sure to align the pins correctly when plugging in the harness from the power supply -- one of other members learned the hard way that it's possible to plug in the DBV power supply harness incorrectly which would result in some of the sparks you're used to seeing as a welder.

Topics merged. It is not productive to have two active threads about the same issue.


I left the topic subjects unchanged to prevent confusion when reading the merged thread.


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