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Hello, I just acquired a Bally E-2091-200 quarter slot machine. I would like to get it going, but  not sure what's wrong. When I turn it on, all the lights come on and instantly has a code on the display (_6 . . . 0.6.) the first digit is blank, and the reels don't spin.  Nothing happens when I push the test button and nothing seems to happen when I push the reset button, except sometimes it sounds like  when I power it up(solenoids clicking and a bell).   I have  checked the battery on the board and it reads 4.0volts and I'm not sure what to do next. If anyone   Could help it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Here is the Bally error codes.
Code 6 on start up looks like a memory code.
Barry (Foxsslots) is the resident expert, he can tell you for sure
and will probably have the parts you need.

Thanks for the reply, I've done a little reading and thought that it was supposed to have some boot sequence on the display, just that code instantly. I was reading your error code sheet and it says for the memory code, the last digit is 6 with no other numbers displayed for one second, followed by the memory chip number at the front of display. Any ideas?

Thanks

I'm not sure as I have not had to work with this problem.
Barry will be the one to know for sure.

Ok, thanks.  I hope he sees this post and can give me some help with this. I will patiently wait. Thanks again

you have a power problem - check the connections at the power supply - remove the reel mechanism from the machine and then power the machine back up.

Thanks for responding. Ok, I checked the power connections, unplugged, inspected, and reconnected. Pulled the reel mech, powered up, and still get the same thing on the display. First digit is blank then 6 . . .6. And sometimes 6 . . 0.6. And the first digit always blank.

check the dc voltages at the test loops on the power supply - make sure the power supply connector is not burnt especially the bottom 2 wires.  did you check your fuses at the fuse block.

Yes, the fuses are good, but I need a few new caps. The tabs are broke and they won't lock, but are making connection. I have even held them to make sure and get the same thing. Where are the test loops and what voltage am I looking for?  I'm pretty good with electronics, if you have a wiring diagram that shows what to test, or troubleshooting steps that would be awesome.

Here is how to check the power supply.

Awesome, thanks. I will test this when I get home later and post my findings. I am at work now. Thanks!

Ok, I have tested the power supply board and I get 4.9 volts DC from tp1 to ground, 7.4 bolts DC from tp2 to ground, and 10.39 volts DC from tp4 to ground.  Now I know some boards have actual test points, but they are not on this one. I tested the wires at the back of the connector plug corresponding to the test points one the chart posted, and for test point 4, tested at each terminal on connector shown in chart. All seems to be ok, what is my next step?

I found this ribbon cable that connects two circuit boards and checked the connections and found that one side has all the pins, and the other is missing two pins.  Is this supposed to be that way?  The ribbon cable to the display board is missing a pin too.  I will post pics.

voila -  you found the problem

Sweet, now the next question is, does anybody have these cables? I have looked online for Bally E2000 parts and can't find many.

Here is one on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BALLY-SLOT-MACHINE-E-SERIES-RIBBON-CABLE-/350123645320?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5184fed988 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BALLY-SLOT-MACHINE-E-SERIES-RIBBON-CABLE-/350123645320?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5184fed988)

Thanks, I had found it after my post by looking up gallery of slots from Barry's signature and have already ordered. I am waiting for them and anxious to see if this thing works after I replace the cables.
Thanks again!

hello again... ok, I received the cables (Thank You Barry!) and have replaced them.  I am still getting a code instantly upon power up, but now the first digit is functioning.  so the code is 76 . . . 6

any idea what this one means? I have checked all the other connections and they seem to be ok.    :103-   :99- 

usually a cmos error - the 5101 ics are on the mpu board - try reseating them

Im not too familiar with which board is what, but im assuming the mpu board is the one with M1, M2, M3, P1, & P2 chips.  I pulled all of those and checked the pins and reseated.  There is no chip in P2, not sure if there's supposed to be. still get same code.  Is it possible the chips or board are bad?

5101s are to the right of the battery.

Ok, I pulled those two, cleaned the pins for better connection, and reseated. Still the same. Should I try a new board?

check the battery as well -  next take the P1 prom out of the game and power it up - see if you get 654321 displaying.

ok, i checked the battery again and get 4.03 volts dc, even with unit unplugged.  removed P1 prom and powered up, get same code.  Removed M1 prom and powered up, got buzzing from hopper area and display said "_ . . . . 6"
removed M2 prom and powered up, display said "7 . . . 66"  removed M3 prom and powered up, got the same original display "76 . . 06"

you went past my instructions - but it sounds like you have bad 5101 cmos

Sorry bout that, I was trying to be proactive lol.  So would you happen to have some of those? Are they both the same?

My CMOS chips say "smc5101e-3"
I found some on eBay that are for Bally pinball boards that say "PCD5101P"

Are these the same, could I use them to replace mine?

those will work.

Awesome, I will order. Is there anything I have to do, or is it like a computer, just plug it in and it will recognize and start using like ram?

you MAY have to a ram clear - you may have bad sockets - but try the new ICs first.

I return with good news!  I installed the new 5101's and we have life!  It powers up and goes through a self test and displays "50 000", which is all good, so I put in a coin and pull the handle. The reels spin, then the third reel locks and the 2nd & 3rd payline lights start flashing and the 1st & 2nd reels just keep free spinning. If I turn key, the display flashes 41 & 1, my paperwork says 41 is reel 1 spin error. What does this mean?  What should I do?

Thanks!

Well, I believe it is fixed!  Handle pull was pretty hard and not going back up by itself, so I put a little WD40 on all the moving parts I could see and taped a cable that was rubbing on reel when the door was closed. Closed it up, threw in some coins, pulled the handle a few times, and viola! Seems to be working ok now, handle is returning now, no codes, and paying out. Thank you guys for your help! It is much appreciated!

Thanks!

Thanks for sharing your finding on this problem. Its good to know that those 5101 ram chips caused the problem. Need to keep this in mind for trouble shooting down the road...  Gary