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what would cause a general reel tilt i get it some times.

If the machine detects that the door was opened in the middle of a spin, you'll get a General Reel Tilt.

This could be due to:

- Opening the door while the machine is in the middle of a spin.

- The door lever not being shoved all the way down, which could result in...

- Poor alignment of the door optics, causing the machine to think that the door isn't closed at times, especially during vibrations from the slot handle returning to its home position, or even vibration from the reels spinning if the optics are far enough off that they're just barely making the closure.

- A faulty MPU board.  The green battery on the board tends to leak over time (and should be removed).  Unfortunately, the traces on the board directly below the green battery are the ones that complete the door circuit.  If the trace gets eaten through, the machine will think the door is open.  If the trace is partially eaten through, it may randomly think the door is opening and closing on its own due to the poor electrical connection.

When you get the General Reel Tilt, before you do anything else, look on the VFD for the message, "Door Open M" or "Closure M" -- that indicates that the machine either thinks that the door is open, or in the case of a "Closure" message, that the machine believes that the door was just open and has since been closed.

I believe you could also get this if your bill validator stacker box door flops open (or vibrates enough if the switch is very sensitive).  If the message is "Door Open B" or "Closure B", then the switch on the door that leads to the cash can is to blame.  If the message is "Door Open M" or "Closure M", the main door optics are where you should focus your efforts.

thanks for the reply, i will have to check it out i think it might be the door optics. i know one day i bumped the door and it happened. and the door you kind of have to lift up on it to get it to close good.
keith

You might consider looking at the thread on bypassing S2000 door optics also. It can save a lot of hassle over time.

yeah that sounds even better thanks cowboy

I seem to get a whole lot of reel tilts if the machine has SG000155 game chips installed. All I do is switch them out for SG000363 and no more reel tilts.

i will have to look and see what sg i got in it 

Also, if you gotta lift up on the handle a bit to get them to work -
they are not lined up right.
There are little screws that you can loosen to get them lined up again.

SG000365 is whats in it

bunker its a work in progress the machine needs cleaned up a bit and stuff but every time i say iam going to do it i start playing it and well................ you know how that goes

but maybe i will get to it with the wife in az for 2 weeks

Keith  This will take just about one minute to do.  Take a Sharpie Pen and put a mark on the outside of the door that lines up with the optic when the door latch is in the down position. Now place a mark on the outside of the cabinet that lines up with the cabinet optic.  Close the door and the two Sharpie lines should line up if the optics are in correct alignment. If they don't line up adjust them.  ( WD 40 will remove the ink when your done )

ok will do let you know in a few minutes

did what you said, the door is off from the cabinet about 1/8 of a inch when its closed from the lines of the optics

Cabinet is the only optic you can adjust, move it up or down to match the door mark.

will do thanks buzz

Great posts above. My two cents...don't forget to check that bottom door switch, it can cause a general reel tilt with an M door open error too. Check to see if it is loose from its bracket or faulty. Pull outward on the bottom glass door and see if the slot machine shows a M door open error(with the main door closed and slot machine fully operational). If you get an error, if the switch tests good, and the switch bracket isn't loose, try to pull the whole bracket and switch mechanism towards you to get better contact. Good luck!

I don't recall offhand if the S2000 has an door optics in the self-tests?  :128-
Probably not, as the door optics is one of the most common problems with S2000 homeowners.

This is another thing on a slot that is really just designed for casino security really -
that's why I went with the cherry switch set-up instead.
It's much more reliable for home use and great for checking machine operation with the door physically open.

as with the S+, the S-2000 does have all self diagnostic tests available.  On a S-2000, the first thing I do is to bypass the belly door switch. Since most machines do not have coin-in  installed, I remove the inner door panel (two screws on the right and a screw on the bottom left. I swing it out of the way and temp. attach it to reel shelf. this will allow you to get to the door switch, one nut and the whole assembly will come out (switch and bracket). I cut the two wire connector close to the main harness and put a scotch-lock connector on it. I save the two wire harness male/ female  to use to replace the speaker connector when they are bad. re assemble.
to test for door optics: this method is for people who really want to know that there optics are aligned and will not give them problems in the future. If you suspect that you have an alignment problem, I remove the glass and printer/display panel, very easy to do, this will expose the optics. reattach the VFD,turn on the machine and press the test switch once, this will put you in the operator menus, go to the I/O test Option #4,  go to the processor input tests Option 4.1.3, scroll down to the main door test, close the main door and push the latch to the lowest position. the display should toggle between a zero and a one, now you can move the door, bump the door ,shake the machine and observe that the optics continue to toggle, if they stop during these tests then you can move and adjust accordingly. once you are sure the toggling doesn't stop then you have fixed your problem. reassemble and enjoy. you should also bypass the cash box door if it has not been done, test in the same menu, Bill validator door,should be toggling as the main door when it is bypassed properly.

Jim   

Tilt
I am getting a reel spin on power up I just checked my mpu board and found the battery the green one 3.6 volt to be dead.
I am getting a door M open with the reel spin would the battery being dead cause this error in the machine?
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Dan

Depends on which MPU you're using. If it's a 504 or 502 board, then no, but if it's a 1270 enhanced board, then it's a good possibility. The 500 series boards don't require that battery, the 1270 boards do. On the other hand, if it's a 500 series board and that battery leaked, then there is a very good possibility it's causing the problem as one of the traces for the door optics passes underneath that battery. Hope this isn't completely confusing

I don't think a dear battery will cause a door error.

Depending on which board you have the green battery is not needed and recommended to be removed. If you have a 502 or 504 board a battery leaking can harm a trace and cause a door open error.

Door optics are most times the problem. If you don't have another set of optics to try, the optics can be temporary bypassed using a piece of electrical wire about 3 or 4 feet long. Unplug both optics (door and cabinet ) remove some of the insulation on both ends of the wire, on door side stick the wire into the plug with the red/white wire, cabinet side into the plug with the green wire. Optics are now bypassed see what happens. ( Cabinet side there will be a tie wrap holding the optic wire to the BV chassis that will cause you a problem getting enough slack in the wires to work with. I take a long regular screw driver and hit it with a small hammer to cut the tie wrap.)

Removed the battery and installed the jumper + to + did a re set with the jackpot key with door open and the tilt went away.
I found the belly door open so I put some elect tape on it to keep it closed. That cleared the machine so all is back working again..
Thanks...
Dan