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Recently purchased a Triple Stars (with enhanced sound, backlit reels) for the wife for Christmas. Game boots up and seems to play ok except when hitting certain combinations that should be a winner, it does nothing or backlit reels light up on wrong cymbals. I am a newbie so any help would greatly appreciated. Happy Holidays, Ed.

sounds like you may not have the right reel strips for the software you're using, wrong strips for the glass or wrong software for the game. If you can post a little more info we'll be able to help more.

How many coin game is it?
How many paylines?
What reel strips are installed? There are numbers at the bottom of the strips or list the order of the symbols on each strip
What SB and SG chips are installed on the MPU board?

Also a picture or 2 of the front of the machine would be helpful

Reels should be numbered left to right 123. see if they are correct.  If not we can try a few more things.


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Cowboy you beat me to it.  I have some Triple Star machines I can look at the reel strip numbers to see what goes where.

also make sure the strips are installed right..... the knotches on the reels need to line up with the little cutouts on the strips....

I'm bettin' on 3cn strips in a 2cn game or vice versa, but it could easily be multi-payline strips in a single payline game or vice versa too. Whatever it is, it shouldn't be to difficult to figure out and he's gonna get an education on his machine at the same time.

Rob  There is 17 different SB chips listed for Triple Stars. ( some are for 5 reel )

Fellow might not have time to get back to us today.  I can just picture, him running for his life with his Wife chasing him with a rolling pin, him hollering out " I know I know I should have tested it before Christmas" 

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 :97- Mine only does that when I bring a new machine into the house :97- Seventeen SB chips? Lots of room for a mixup there

Cowboy, and all others, thanks for the replies. It is a 2 coin single payline 3 reel multi-denom round top. The strips are as follows: from parting line down- bl7, flag7, stars7, rd7, trip stars, wh7, flag7, stars7, bl7, rd7, wh7. I purchased it from RMS in Arizona. Yes the wife is disappointed, it came in Thursday afternoon, I turned it on Friday evening after it got to room temp per seller, and now won't be able to contact them until hopefully Tuesday. Help, thanks, Ed.

are the strips lined up ny the noches?

do the reels light up at all on top or bottom of payline?

Ed  I'm not going to tell you to do anything that will harm your machine.  We need to know the base chip number you have on your board. With the door open and power OFF remove the coin tray, if it doesn't have a coin tray remove the flat plate that has the lower speaker attached to it. With this removed you will now need to remove the MPU, it stands upright, to your left  at the very bottom of the machine. It will be a unpainted tray with a handle on the front of it. Using 2 or 3 fingers, DO NOT USE YOUR THUMB unless you want your thumb nail smashed. Kind of jerk on the handle and it will slide out. now post the numbers from the Base chip, it will be SB******. The base chip is the one I circled in RED.

If I have a machine with that base chip, I will remove the reel strips and take a pic. of them.

Buzz, the chip is SB100059. The others are SG000363 (x2). Thanks

Ed   Your not going to like this, you have the wrong SB Chip.   SB100059   Triple Double Dollars 3 Reel 1 Line 2 Coin
                                                                                                         Triple Double Diamond 3 Reel 1 Line 2 Coin

Post back the top award of your machine and I'll see if I can come up with the chip number you need.

Triple Stars® Spinning Reel 3-Reel, 1-Line, 2-Credit Multiplier    4,000     SB100010

Pretty sure you need a SB100010   Triple Stars 3 Reel 1 Line 2 Coin  4000 Top Award

  Brian will fix you up with the right chip, while I was at it I would also get a Clear 97 and a Key 31 chip/chips.

Foster looks like I got beat out again, it's a Bitch to get OLD

Ed,

 :238- Here is a list of what your strips should look like:

First, a little explanation as it is a little confusion figuring our IGT's code for the reel strip symbols for this particular theme. It makes LITTLE (Thanks IGT) sense, but I painstakingly mapped it out in the past when I was figuring this one out. The list you gave for your strip matches for a third reel strip on this theme. You first and second reel strips should be identical to each other, but different from the third that I assume you detailed for us. The bottom of your strips may be labelled (underneath the part where the top and the bottom of the strips come together.) with a part number followed by F4586 on the first and second strips, and F4587 on the third strip. This little key will help you see what each code refers to:

~~ Blank
G7  Blue 7
O7  White 7
B7  Red 7
P7  Flag (or RWB COMBO) 7
R7  Blue 7 w/ White Stars
TL  Triple Star

Physical Reel Strip Listing
Line #1   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #2   G7  G7  G7
Line #3   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #4   P7  P7  P7
Line #5   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #6   TL  TL  R7
Line #7   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #8   B7  B7  B7
Line #9   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #10   R7  R7  TL
Line #11   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #12   O7  O7  O7
Line #13   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #14   P7  P7  P7
Line #15   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #16   TL  TL  R7
Line #17   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #18   G7  G7  G7
Line #19   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #20   B7  B7  B7
Line #21   ~~  ~~  ~~
Line #22   O7  O7  O7
               4    4    4
               5    5    5
               8    8    8
               6    6    7

This should help confirm the strips are OK, but as others have said you still will need the chips they have mentioned. I hope this helps a little... At least you can still play the machine and get all kinds of Mystery Pays! :279- :200- :208- :208-

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Captain, Buzz, Cowboy, and all others, thanks for the replies. It is greatly appreciated. As I said I am new to this slot machine thing. I have been collecting/restoring pinball machines for about 6+ years (mostly ems but a few solid state). Any of you familiar with pins? This info you all submitted should help correct my problem and hope to make the wife happy. I will keep you all posted on how it goes in the next few days when I can contact the seller. Thanks again, and Happy Holidays, Ed.

Isn't that amazing how IGT uses a the "B" for a Red symbol in that particular sheet?
And a  "G" for a Blue symbol?
I wonder letter they would use for the color Green?   :25-

Hello guys, I'm back. Got the replacement chip (SB100010) in Friday and put it in it's socket making sure all legs fully seated and reinstalled board. Turned machine on, went into memory test then an alarm sounded with display reading eprom error. Help? Was told by seller (RMS) that all I had to do was change the chip. I put the other chip back in and it works as it did before. Getting a little upset with RMS. Am I doing something wrong or is there possibly another problem? Thanks again for your time, Ed.

Turn your jackpot key 4 times and the display should tell you to hold the test button for 2-3 seconds.  After holding the button down for 2-3 seconds, it should then ask you to close the main door.  Once that's done, you should be in business.

Jason

All this is good info for the future,when the wife wants you to change the game out.

Hey, thanks Jason, that did it. Seems to be working ok now. The only thing I am wondering about is the sound. It seems to be the standard sounds, supposed to be enhanced sound package. Also one of the speakers (left top) is not working. Any thoughts? Thanks again, Ed.

The top left speaker is prone to the 2 green wires getting serious damage due to
"techs-in-a-hurry" to change out ticket paper and
slot re-sellers ripping out the topbox ticket printers.

You gotta check the speaker wires out and see if they're intact with full continuity.
There's no "left/right" setting on an S2000.

I don't think Triple Stars has any really enhanced sound Simm card associated with it but
if you install a MMLBII with a DSV00042 Sim card -
you can get into the Machine Options under "Sounds" and click on the "Enhanced" settings.

Some guys have experimented with different games and found certain Simm cards
that may give an added sound for your particular game.

Yep a base chip change can reset your sound to default.  If you have a sound SIMM installed on your sound board, you can go into the menus of your game by pressing the test button and navigating the settings until you see Sound Settings.  Check your sound board and see if there is a SIMM installed.  It should have a tag that says DSV00042 on it.  If that's the case, we can get your sound going for you.



Jason

Here's any easy way to tell what you have:

1.  If your sound is like this, you do not have an enhanced sound SIMM installed on your board.  This is the generic default sound that ships with IGT S2000 games that DO NOT have a Multimedia Lite II board and sound SIMM installed.  It is normal to have the sound play through only one speaker as this configuration is mono sound and is only output through one speaker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4vey3owmIY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4vey3owmIY)

2.  If your sound is like any of the following three videos, you have a Multimedia Lite and a DSV00042 sound SIMM installed:

a.  Enhanced Sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyrCkYeVHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyrCkYeVHY)

b.  Legacy Sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kTG1UpVlTg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kTG1UpVlTg)

c.  Generic Sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmcmirGdXok (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmcmirGdXok)

If the DSV00042 sound SIMM is installed, any of the sound configurations per a, b, and c should be selectable options within the sound menu.  Stereo sound is a selectable option as well.

Thanks,
Jason

Jason, our Triple Stars sounds like the first video, the standard sound. The chip that was originally sent in the board sounded like "C" which is the one my wife prefers. Since my board sounded that way with the other chip, does that mean I should be able to change the sound with option menu? Thanks for the great video info by the way, Ed.

 :259- for posting Jason.

Ed, check out the following video.  If you have a DSV00042 installed on your board, you should be able to navigate the menus as instructed in the video to configure option A, B, or C.  If you don't see anything remotely similar, either your DSV00042 sound SIMM is not seated properly, or you don't have a sound SIMM installed at all.  If you aren't getting anywhere, snap a photo of your board upload it in a post, and we will be able to tell you if you have an MML II board and DSV sound SIMM installed.  Sometimes removing the sound SIMM and reseating it can resolve the issue as well, if it wasn't seated correctly to begin with.  If you confirm that the hardware is installed properly, refer to the video below.  Credit to Brianzz for the video.  Let us know how it goes!

Jason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hc-qw2uos&feature=plcp&context=C30fb624UDOEgsToPDskKinbb688ycQX6eLGw9AHhH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hc-qw2uos&feature=plcp&context=C30fb624UDOEgsToPDskKinbb688ycQX6eLGw9AHhH)

I will try tomorrow evening when I get home from work and let you know how it goes. Thanks again for all the help, Ed.

Ed, you've got mail.

Jason

Thanks Jason, that was all I needed to get the sounds figured out. All is well with the wife now. You have been very heipful. Thanks again, and you also have mail, Ed.

You're very welcome Ed.

Jason

I would like to send thanks to Yoeddy1, Cowboy, and all others who have taken time to post info to help with my Triple Stars. It is greatly appreciated. The NLG site seems to be made up of a bunch of good guys with a passion for keeping gaming going, willing to help others. Thanks again, the wife is very happy now, and so am I.  Thanks, Ed.