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It's bad enough that they have made the bottles paper thin, but now they have eliminated the cardboard 'tray' that the bottles sit in. This causes 2 issues. (1) When you try to carry it, it wants to fold up like an accordion and causes bottles to leak. (2) You can't stack them as high because the tops rest right on the bottoms of the next layer (instead of having the weight more evenly distributed on the tray). This also causes the flimsy bottles to break or leak.

What were they thinking?  :18- :18- :18-

Old on left. 'New' on right.  :47-

Its a new trend with lots of bottled water manufacturers. Its a pain in the ass for the exact reasons you stated. But I'm sure its because they can save money on material costs AND they can charge more for a case since its more environmentally friendly. They keep those pieces of cardboard out of the landfil and we get to pay extra for it  :103-

Maybe they were thinking that you saved all of the carboard bottoms from when they did it better?

Fill out the comment cards at the warehouse, maybe they will listen? Then when you are at the warehouse, maybe they will have a box bottom that is close enough to carry it in? Have them find one for you. Maybe they will understand the problem. Return any bottles that got a leak and ask for replacements... Maybe they will see there is a problem?

These were hard enough to handle when they had the cardboard.

Sorry, hope that you have a better day... go play with a slot machine! :89- :71- :89-

CH :95-

If you look at the 'old' style, you can see that the right two front bottles are already crushed, and that was WITH the tray.

And on top of that, I've lost a source of gun target backers, which the trays worked well for. <sigh>

I've noticed when opening these new bottles you damn near crush it trying to get the lid off sometimes too. I'm all for going back to glass returnable bottles for water and pop. Dump the aluminum cans too :89- There aren't enough windmills and solar panels in the whole country to run a descent size aluminum smelter

I have an aluminium can crusher mounted on the wall in my garage... I don't know how many times I've been out there crushing cans to get the frustration of a bad day out. Its a lot cheaper than a therapist  :72-

So please don't get rid of aluminum cans. Actually a lot of craft beer makers are going away from glass bottles. Aluminum keeps it colder, protects it from damaging effects of sunlight, and is easier to transport.

It's just another example of the rediculousness of the "green" movement. Like the guy that drives his electric car to spend a day at a rally drinking bottled water to protest about the environment and brag about how he's reduced his carbon footprint. I get to see what an idiot he is while I pour an extra 1000 tons of coal into the boiler at work to supply the extra electricity to charge his(and all the other) car(s) because he only reduced his carbon footprint by putting it onto someone else's shoulders. And yes, I know there are those that actually, smartly, try to represent their cause, but I've seen these things and I'm referring to the majority of what I've seen. I'm not a green freak by any stretch of the imagination, but I do make an effort to limit my contribution to the pollution pool.

You know most bottled water is the same water you get from your community or city water system . it has just been run through a carbon  ( charcoal ) filter . As if not marked as distilled water or RO WATER or DEIONIZED  . Most call theirs mineral water  or maybe purified water as in the pic above . the only requirement is it fall's under THE FDA MIN STANDARD FOR POTABLE WATER . THAT MEANS IT CAN HAVE AS MUCH CRAP IN IT AS ANY TAP WATER AS LONG AS ITS SAFE.  It is marketed and sold by the manufacture as in a BRAND name or no brand which could easily be the same product with just a differant label . Do you really think Sam's club has its own bottling plant ?  Drinking water is lots better for you than soda products that is true  and the portability of bottled water is great . But if your water from your regular tap is SAFE AND CLEAR  NOT SMELLY  Then just drink it  save your money . People have been drinking tap water for as long as faucets have been around. and there still here . Its all a mass marketing scam on the general public. THINK ABOUT IT  :210- :210-   NOTE    I sell water softeners   / iron filters  / RO UNITS / UV UNITS / TO MANY THAT DONT NEED THEM BUT JUST THINK THEY NEED THEM . You just cant change some peoples opinion when the mass media spreads propaganda    SO i do not fight it     :25-

I am going to say this Fast Food industry as well a the bottled water industry are creating too much waste that is not recycled.

HAAAAA, CARBON FOOTPRINT......
I like when they try to guilt you into paying for your carbon usage.
Just send that money to me and I'll send you a GENUINE certificate for your wall.

PLunger,
What's an easy way to measure the iron content in the tap water?
Do they make test strips like the kind for swimming pool water?
I'm running an older RainSoft that utilizes rock salt to pull out he iron in the well water.
My socks are white when washed but sometimes there's iron stain in the sink
( I gotta change out that rubber washer someday...lol) if I forget to get some salt for the softener.

Iron out works well to get the iron out but be careful not to use to much, it works well at keeping the iron stains on you sink and shower too.

Also you may end up with 24 ziplock bags and a big bottle to fill them with, be glad they still have bottles that don't dissolve from water contact.  :200- :200- :200- :200-

I've always  :97- at the name "Sam's Choice"....

He's DEAD. What did they do, hold a seance?  Oh Saaaaaammmmm.... What should we put your naaaaaaameeee onnnnnnn????

    And SAM answered    IT DOESNT MATTER    JUST GET IT FROM CHINA

"...and mark it up 500%"  :97- :97- :97-

The bottled water scam has had me laughing for years. I'll drink it when someone hands me a bottle but I don't buy it. I use a PUR faucet filter to get the chlorine smell and taste out of my tap water and I'm happy.  :5- If it weren't for the chlorine smell, I'd probably dump the filter altogether.

Anyone else have fun reading the nutritional labels on water bottles?  :200-  :30-  :208- :208-   Hey, I actually found one with a non-zero value on it!!    ...   ...   ...  It had 1mg of sodium (really)!  I forgot the brand.

Stat :31-

I live rural and the water here really does taste bad. And it's not chlorine. I've tried filters but they don't help. Plus I try to keep an emergency supply of water on hand, so I am always rotating out the older stuff with the new. Not sure if anyone is watching that 'doomsday preppers' show, but while I may not be over the deep end like some of those people, I do keep a 90 day supply of food and water on hand.

Poppo,

My in-laws live in the middle of nowhere and have a well that gives them highly mineralized water with a crapload of iron. They have a softener and use the iron-out stuff, but the water is still nasty... but they have one of the GE RO units and it kicks major ass.

I highly recommend it.

http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SpecPage&Sku=GXRM10RBL (http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SpecPage&Sku=GXRM10RBL)

RJ

I know...Those trays make great backers for range work. Now I use surplus military sand bags (25-50 cents a piece) and fill them with gravel or all purpose sand, I have around 50 bags in my garage that I use as a berm and backstop that's 2 bags wide by about 8 bags high (double stacked, 2 rows of bags for added protection). This allows me to safety shoot 22LR and even my .38/9mm.

If ya got land, Get some sandbags they will stop my 7.62 and 5.56 with ease :)

Now, back to the water.....

Our local brand (Poland Spring) did the same thing, costs less to simply shrink the bottles in plastic and skip the cardboard. Hey, they even made the bottles smaller and reduced cap/neck size...It's like drinking out of a hamster bottle...

LOL. I went into Walmart this morning and they were busy cleaning up the mess from a "pyramid" of these cases of bottles water that they had stacked up by the door and had collapsed. The manager was standing there, and I laughed and said" See, that is what happens when you get cheap and leave out the cardboard liners".