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I know people have discussed that is it OK to turn your slots on and off.  I have a question:  Do you think it is OK to leave your S+ on with credits in it?  I can easily run up 300 or more and don't want to cash out all the quarters and dump them back in the hopper.    Will I burn out the Spin and Max bulbs?

I don't know ..... maybe dumb but just want to know your opinion.

thanks

Regular incandescent bulbs will eventually contribute to yellowing and cause the plastic to get brittle. If you are using LED replacements then I'm not sure. At first blush they would seem to be okay, but other members have said that they give off enough ultra violet light to cause damage. Hopefully more members will chime in about the long-term consequences, if any, of LEDs.

One machine has LEDs and my other one does not.  Very interesting.

If you are leaving the machine with credits on it, you might want to get some of those triangle (Icecream cone) shapped "RESERVED" signs to put into the coin slot. So no one comes along and plays down your credits. I have also invested in two acrylic pamflet holders and have a bunch of those "know when to stop" pamflets stuffed in them. My wife has since taken a sharpie and vandalized one of them so it now reads "Know when to stop - Buying Slot machines  :72-

Also if you have kids (or cats) and you are leaving the machine on - with credits you may want to disable the cash-out button as you won't believe the number of times someone comes along and hits the cashout button "by accident".

I have turned mine off with Credits on it ....  and they remain on the system. No need to cash out. One of the nice things about American slots is that they are pretty fault tolerant as casino patrons would do anything (including pulling the plug) if they thought they could get one past the casinos. Sir, I had 200 hundred credits on this $5.00 machine before the power went out....  :89-

Just to add that I do this all the time. I rarely cash out anymore. I just turn the machines on to play and turn them off when I'm done. If I know that I'll be playing a machine again within 24 hours I usually leave it on, otherwise, I leave them off. From an electronics POV, it is best to just leave them on if you can afford the bill and the room doesn't get too warm. In my case, it's a small room crammed with machines and even in winter it gets quite warm in there if I leave all the machines on. In summer it is out of the question.

so for instance the machines would be on all weekend with credits. Then get turned off until next weekend. I am worried about the 60 or so hours the max spin light is on.

I don't know about burning out the incandescents, but my S2000 eats the LED bulbs for some reason.

I upgraded my S+ to LEDs 6 months before I got the S2000 and upgraded the S2000 the day I got it home. The S2000 has lost 3 of the 5 button bulbs, while the S+ hasn't had any bulb failures. :5-

Kind of ticks me off because I have to buy more now.

Are you sure they are 12v LED's in the S-2000 as the S+ uses 6v and if you use the S+ one in the S-2000, well you know

There is so much to learn.... Why would they change the voltage????????

Seems strange..... :72-

Nope, not sure of that, as they're not marked. All I can say for sure is they were described as being for an S2000 when I bought them off eBay.  :30- :72- :72- :72- :72-

Holey, your wife must be related to mine, LOL

Thanks,
Wayne :97-

If you got those LEDs off of Ebay for the S2000 .... that must be what they are for. Nothing ever gets mis represented on ebay.  :30- :30-
I remember a story where someone was advertising a S2000, but delivered a S+. The seller played stupid and said he didn't know how to tell the differenece.
I think that name plate on the side of every machine might just say the model number but I guess they didn't notice that either.

With that said assuming you have the right bulbs make sure that they are well seated. A loose bulb can arc and that greatly shortens a bulbs life.

This is only a suggestion
If you have any of the S2000 LED's left that work try them in the S+.
If they work in the S+, The seller could have sent you the wrong ones.

FYI, I tried the the ones from Happ and had many issues with the LED's from Happ.

I purchased a new set for the S2000 and S+ from MCM Electronics.
I am happy with both sets.
MCM even has a 4 LED to go behind the denomination label in the reel glass for the S2000, but not one for the S+.

So the bottom line is this:  It's ok to leave the machine on with credits in it for a while (weekend or so) - better if the machine has LED lights in the play buttons. 

Trust but verify eBay purchases. 

I would also second Foster's choice of MCM Electronics if you decide to upgrade your second machine. I can't speak for the S2000 LEDs but the S+ LEDs I installed are performing well with no issues and were less expensive (especially SH) than Happ.

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Yeah, I don't need 28 of them.

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There's some guy on fleabay selling parts and stuff for S+'s.
I think he must of worked ,at one time, for Happs controls in the shipping dept...
Basically , you can buy a $4 or $5 part ,but watch out for the the shipping is like $15.00....it would make sense if it was a diamond brooch and it was insured shipping...but for a plastic coin drop funnel? C'mon! :96-

Sometimes people will list a item for .50c and have a 10dollar shipping. This get them around ebay listing fees.

But it's F@#%d for the customer if there is a problem, regardless of whether the seller offers a refund or not. You never get the SH cost back on a refund. This practice has the potential to screw the customer as well as fleapay.

Its scummy any which way you shape it. I was just noting the practice.
Sometimes people just list unreasonably high shipping charges hoping the bidder won't notice. Equally as scummy just not as deceptive.
The one I really hate is that they note a handling fee but don't specify how much. Then you get hit with this after the auction
 I can see a box fee (specified) for something like a glass kit where there are real costs involved. Bubble wrap is not cheap nor is dual boxing.

In the case of glass or other items requiring extra packaging or insurance, I have no issues paying larger SH fees -- I just want to know how much in advance. I won't bid on an auction that isn't specific about all of the fees involved, with the possible exception of a large item (slot machine) where the seller specifies a crating charge, but not the carrier charge. That's fine, since I know what I'm getting into.

What's interesting is that for some items that I've browsed (not slot related) there will be many sellers competing, and they will all have the same final price, but will vary the item cost and shipping. I've seen the same $25 item range from $0.99 with $24 SH all the way up to $25 with free shipping.  :25- One has to laugh when looking at all of these stacked up on one results page.  :52- :52-

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Back to the topic: jdkmunch, I've been wondering: Doesn't it drive you nuts having one machine with incandescents and the other with LEDs? I swapped all of mine at the same time because I didn't like looking back and forth between the warm dim-yellow of the tungsten and the cool bright blue-white of the diodes. :103- :103-

Yeah....lol.....the yellow lights looks really old as compared to the whiteish looking LEDS.
You know I took this one step further....I added colored LEDS...now I want my white LEDS on the other machines to all look like the colored machines.  The best color is the ones that sort of match the colors of the particular game theme your playing with...

Were those pictures posted on the old site or here? I remember that the color LEDs looked very good.

I think it was in my first post on the new site...I'll check and post.


Here's the link for the colored LEDs I bought>>

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=192&pg=1 (http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=192&pg=1)

And here's the link to the topic on LEDS>>>

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=250.msg1958#msg1958 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=250.msg1958#msg1958)

Do any of those go behind the denomination ?   My S+ is mint with all cool super clean white LEDs except for the twenty five cents sign - that is all nasty yellow!  I haven't try to see what bulb is in there yet.

Hi... one of the main reason for that battery backup is to retain ram memory and bookkeeping functions in case of power failure. so if you turn power off credits should be there for ever ,of course if the battery goes south so do the credits.

As for the lamps on the S+ versus the S-2000:
the S+ uses #86 T1 3/4  6volt,, bill acceptor back lights, and denom lamp, coin accept and coin insert.

259 or 555  T3 1/4  6volt for bet max,spin, bet one, cash out

 My phantom/opera,dream/jennie S2000 uses
#73 T1 3/4 14 volt denom lamp, bill acceptor backlight.
#161 or 658 T 3 1/4/  14 volt for bet max  spin  bet 1  cash out.

Happ makes both for 6volt and 14 volt 

If you put 6volt in 14 volt ckt will burn out a lot faster.


Jim 

Do any of those go behind the denomination ?


Yes, the number#86...however, there's a different kind of multi- LED bulb fixture that fits in there that was better really.
You had to first remove the panel to get behind the reel glass because it could only be inserted into the socket from the front rather than from the back as they normally are installed. The multi-LED bulb was too big for the hole.