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Title: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: Joeylc on January 29, 2009, 03:15:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmEvPZUdAVI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmEvPZUdAVI)

 :5- :5- :5- :5-


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: dpalmi on January 29, 2009, 03:22:56 AM
Oh man...where do I even start?!?

Dan #2


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: brichter on January 29, 2009, 05:32:29 AM
45k more free memory!

A whopping 45k! :wa :136- :wa

 :105-


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: knagl on January 29, 2009, 06:24:38 AM
I can't believe that was real...


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: stayouttadabunker on January 29, 2009, 12:30:05 PM
Oh man...where do I even start?!?

Dan #2

Well, for starters, one of the backup singers must of lost her mirror when singing "Looking Good".... :72-


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: tjkeller on January 29, 2009, 01:58:35 PM
NO PC Should be without it!?....Dam!...Guess I'll have to run out and buy a copy!

....anyone got an external 5 1/4" Floppy Drive I can borrow? :97-

.........maybe if I take the internal disk out I can get it to work on my cd/dvd combo drive? :97- :97- :97-


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: StatFreak on January 29, 2009, 02:29:40 PM
"It's like selling fries with every burger" "MS DOS 5 Upgrade with that?  MS DOS 5 Upgrade with that?" :29- :29- :29- :29- :29- :29- :29- :29-

      "Spring those K's that got to be free!" :127-  :30- :30- :97- :97- :97- :97-




....anyone got an external 5 1/4" Floppy Drive I can borrow? :97-

No, but I've got lots of 5 1/4" floppies!  :24- :125- :112-


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: rickhunter on January 29, 2009, 03:49:21 PM
I have the following (yes, I'm a packrat)

Full Height IBM Branded 360k 5 1/4 inch drives (two of these)
about 10 5 1/4 High Density 1.2MB Floppy drives.

And yes, they still work!!!

MS DOS, I remember in my consulting days, it was standard procedure to increase the amount of conventional memory available to programs.  I think the best I ever got was like 634K out of the full 640K with stuff like this in config sys:

Dos=High,UMB
Devicehigh=c:\dos\devicedriver.sys


and the LH (Loadhi) command in the autoexec.bat file.

Man, seems like an eternity ago.


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: StatFreak on January 29, 2009, 04:13:01 PM
You know, come to think of it, I may have a full height 5.25" 360k disk drive buried in the garage. I think I even have a 10MB HDD -- that's megabytes. It was THE must have latest new-fangled upgrade that one could add to their 80286 computer. My friend got one while I was still using an 8088 with a one floppy (endless swapping between system/program/data disks). 1985 or so, I believe.


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: brichter on January 30, 2009, 12:10:29 AM
I still have a 5.25 floppy drive. :)


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: rickhunter on January 30, 2009, 12:56:14 AM
You know, come to think of it, I may have a full height 5.25" 360k disk drive buried in the garage. I think I even have a 10MB HDD -- that's megabytes. It was THE must have latest new-fangled upgrade that one could add to their 80286 computer. My friend got one while I was still using an 8088 with a one floppy (endless swapping between system/program/data disks). 1985 or so, I believe.

That's about right.  I upgraded my 8088 PC (original IBM PC to boot) to a 20MB hard drive around 1986 or so.  I remember paying around $1,200.00 for it.  Installed it myself.  It was a seagate ST225 with a western digital ST-506 interface.  I still remember the low format procedure. 
A>debug
g=C800:5

OMG!!!

I also upgraded the PC with a multi-funcion expansion card (serial, Parallel, plus sockets for 384KB of memory)  I remember paying $190.00 for 64K of memory.  The Quadram Multifunction card was about $600.00.  When memory got "cheap" for about $100 per 64K (9 chips of 64kbit each) I fully populated the board to reach the magical 640KB of RAM.  I didn't upgrade to a 286 until sometime in 1990.  It was an epson branded computer with a 12Mhz 80286 with a 40MB Hard disk an 1MB of RAM and an EGA monitor WOHOO!!!!


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: CommTech on January 30, 2009, 01:03:41 AM
I'm sure I still have at least one 5.25 drive in my Misc. PC parts pile as well.  I even have an external 5.25 (Double Density - 720K!) drive for my Atari 800!
I can even recall talking to tech support for over an hour, trying to free up enough base memory to get some new MS-DOS game to run.
Good old EMM (Extended Memory Manager)! I really learned to love working with MS-DOS! When I first tried Windows (3.1), I kept going back to DOS to do basic commands.
I thought it was faster to use the DOS command line than try to figure out the windows functions!



Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: StatFreak on January 30, 2009, 01:45:02 PM
Rick, that g=c800:5 is interesting. It's probably just coincidence, but with the CGA monitors, the first address of the video buffer was 0xC800. It's amazing that you remember all the prices paid.

Commtech, I also loved DOS. I took the "win" command out of my autoexec.bat file and would only load windows for the least amount of time necessary if a newer program required it, otherwise it was DOS all the way. There are still file manipulation commands that cannot be done in windoze but that can be done in a DOS shell.
Try renaming all 200 files in a directory in one Windoze command (In DOS: REN ???_*.* ???1*.*) I do this for pictures that number over 10,000 from one camera, because Nikon DSLRs only uses four digits*. DOSs XCopy also still has its uses.


*That's one I've never understood. A P&S camera that most users won't use for more than a few thousand shots has five digits in its file number system, but a high-end DSLR which can be expected to take over 30k pictures has only four.


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: jdkmunch on January 30, 2009, 10:19:42 PM
If you thought that video was bad. Look at this from MS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E)



Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: stayouttadabunker on January 31, 2009, 12:04:51 AM
  :107-   >>>>songsmith


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: StatFreak on January 31, 2009, 03:33:06 PM
If you thought that video was bad. Look at this from MS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E)

OWWWWW~!!!  To a musician with nearly perfect pitch like me, listening to that is more torturous than hearing fingernails scraping down a blackboard. :81- :81-  :37- :37- :37-

I honestly had to stop the playback at 37 seconds, and it was hard to hang in that long. K+ for finding an MS (or is it BS :96-) ad that's worse than Joey's post! :131- :131-


Title: Re: Silly MS-DOS 5 Promo Video
Post by: rickhunter on February 12, 2009, 02:46:13 PM
Rick, that g=c800:5 is interesting. It's probably just coincidence, but with the CGA monitors, the first address of the video buffer was 0xC800. It's amazing that you remember all the prices paid.


From my old assembly days, I seem to remember that video memory was mapped to base address A000 to BFFF which was basically the first 128K following 640K of conventional memory.  You could in fact include A000-AFFF for EMM paging thus giving you an extra 64K over the 640K base if you didn't plan on using ANY graphics at all, or you had an MDA (Monochrome Display Adapter) which was only text and used B000-BFFF as base address.