New Life Games Tech Forums

**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S and S-plus Reel Games. => Topic started by: rickaaaer on April 27, 2012, 08:24:02 PM



Title: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 27, 2012, 08:24:02 PM
  I have a IGT S-plus ( think its a s-plus)  the model #B4934cfw . It was made on 2/95. It is a Double Wild Cherry 2 coin machine that takes quarters .The parts I need is a processor board with the game chips programmed and installed. It has a bill valuator installed. I also need a coin hopper ,coin acceptor and a play max credits SW.

I bought a slot machine and the above parts are missing. Could someone tell me a good place to go to buy those parts.

Thanks Rick
               


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 27, 2012, 08:37:59 PM
Is it an upright or slant top? Posting pictures always help to identify machines.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 27, 2012, 08:46:01 PM
Is it an upright or slant top? Porting pictures always help to identify machines.
Up right andI will post a photo Sat.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 27, 2012, 11:37:46 PM
I was not trying to post a add for a S2000 I was asking where I could buy some parts for a slot machine. Thinking you guys would know.If I'm not supposed to ask that question here then I want do it any more and I will go to the cassified add section. Thanks and I'm sorry

I think you are misunderstanding. I believe the comment was about the other post, not yours.

Once we know exactly what you have, we can help you. The pictures are not only to make sure it's a S+ (which it probably is since it has a BV) but to see what else might be missing. So pictures of the inside cabinet and door will help.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 27, 2012, 11:44:29 PM
Yes I did misunderstand. Thanks I will take photos of it tonight and post on Sat. Thanks for all the help I have been getting from everyone on new life games.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 28, 2012, 06:22:18 PM
Yes I did misunderstand. Thanks I will take photos of it tonight and post on Sat. Thanks for all the help I have been getting from everyone on new life games.
ok Here is some pictures of the slot machine I bought. What you see is how it was when I got it. I notice that it does have a processor board. I have never powered it up.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 28, 2012, 06:23:43 PM
Yes I did misunderstand. Thanks I will take photos of it tonight and post on Sat. Thanks for all the help I have been getting from everyone on new life games.
ok Here is some pictures of the slot machine I bought. What you see is how it was when I got it. I notice that it does have a processor board. I have never powered it up.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 28, 2012, 06:28:47 PM
Yes I did misunderstand. Thanks I will take photos of it tonight and post on Sat. Thanks for all the help I have been getting from everyone on new life games.
ok Here is some pictures of the slot machine I bought. What you see is how it was when I got it. I notice that it does have a processor board. I have never powered it up.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 28, 2012, 06:45:44 PM
I can live with that for now.

 I have a IGT S-plus ( think its a s-plus)  the model #B4934cfw . It was made on 2/95. It is a Double Wild Cherry 2 coin machine that takes quarters .The parts I need is the game chips ( i think. Can you tell by the photo of the chips.). It has a bill valuator installed. I also need a coin hopper ,coin acceptor and a play max credits SW. Can you tell me where I can get the parts. Also I'm posting a photo of the processor.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 28, 2012, 07:39:42 PM
I can live with that for now.

 I have a IGT S-plus ( think its a s-plus)  the model #B4934cfw . It was made on 2/95. It is a Double Wild Cherry 2 coin machine that takes quarters .The parts I need is the game chips ( i think. Can you tell by the photo of the chips.). It has a bill valuator installed. I also need a coin hopper ,coin acceptor and a play max credits SW. Can you tell me where I can get the parts. Also I'm posting a photo of the processor.

Yes, you need a game chip since there is a clear chip in there now. You would also need a SET chip to enable the BV.

If that reel chip is labled right, it's for a 3 coin Double Cherry Bar.
http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Cherry%20Bar%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Cherry%20Bar%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier.htm)

So, as it stands, you have the wrong top glass, wrong bottom glass, possibly wrong reel strips and missing a game chip.

Your best bet at this point might be to try and find a complete kit that has the right glass, strips and chips.

If you really want it to be a double wild cherry, you need to verify the reel strips are correct (for starters). Hard to tell from the blurry picture.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 28, 2012, 09:33:59 PM
A kit sounds good. Maybe if it's not to high. Im sending you a phot of the reels.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 28, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
A kit sounds good. Maybe if it's not to high. Im sending you a phot of the reels.

Ok, it looks like those are Wild Cherry strips.

I hate to say it, but you really have a hodge podge machine there. Sort of hard to determine just where to start. Before you go buying glass kits, you probably need to see if it works. Since it has a clear chip in it, you should be able to power it up with the door open and then press the little white button next to the power switch. The LED display should count up a few times. If it does that, at least it is somewhat working. If it won't, then you have even more problems.

If it does count, the next thing I would do is get a game chip like a SP1271 that will work with the Wild Cherry versions. Then you can see if it will power up without a bunch of errors.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 28, 2012, 10:02:45 PM
Thanks I will try that an let you know. What happens. 


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 29, 2012, 03:32:45 AM
I turned on the machine and pressed the spin button . Got winner paid 2 and it counted up to 999 credits. Is that what was suppose to happen?


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: stayouttadabunker on April 29, 2012, 04:08:33 AM
Yes, It did a full RAM clear.
The machine is Cleared when you get to [999].
Now you need to power down the machine & take out the MPU.
Never install or remove any electronics with the power "ON" okay?

Now, install an SP chip in that socket with the notch on the chip facing the same way as the SS chip.
Then install the MPU back in and power up the machine.
Before you do though...read some of this stuff okay? ...>>>

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/gamechange.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/gamechange.htm)


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 29, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
Now, install an SP chip in that socket with the notch on the chip facing the same way as the SS chip.

Bunker,
Not sure if you read the whole thread, but he doesn't have a game chip at this point (or a bunch of other stuff). At least this is a start. He should get a SP1271 and a SET090 to move forward.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: stayouttadabunker on April 29, 2012, 01:41:53 PM
oops! sorry....wow!
I just read the whole thread and noticed that he IS missing a bunch of parts!  :89-

Whaddahe buy? A television with some bricks in it?  Jeesh!  :72-


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 29, 2012, 03:35:56 PM
Yes something like that. I'm starting realize that this newbee got taken, I wanted the experience . Well looks like I'm going to get it. If I noticed a empty socket on the processor. What chip should be there


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 29, 2012, 04:38:45 PM
If I noticed a empty socket on the processor. What chip should be there

What chip number? Can't tell from your picture. It also looks like you may have a 16MHz MPU, If so, you will need a SP1272 (vice a SP1271 as previously mentioned). We need a better picture of the MPU (what you are calling the processor).


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 29, 2012, 04:44:29 PM
I meant the processor board


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 29, 2012, 04:58:49 PM
I meant the processor board

I know what you meant, but it's called a MPU. And the board that it plugs into is called the motherboard. We all need to be on the same page when it comes to terminology, so everyone is talking about the same thing.  :89-

So, what socket number is empty, and can we get a better picture of the MPU? If it does not have a bank of DIP switches on the right side and a blue volume knob on the top, it's a 16Mhz MPU.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 29, 2012, 05:10:35 PM
I will look a the MPU when I get home an from now on its a MPU. Thanks for teaching me all the terms....


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 29, 2012, 05:22:20 PM
It's important to know if the MPU is a 10Mhz or 16Mhz. As noted above, you need the proper game chip depending on the speed of the MPU. The main difference is the 10Mhz board has a volume control knob where the 16Mhz one has the volume controlled in the software. Also there are DIP switches on a 10Mhz board for setting options (not used with newer SP chips). The 16Mhz board does not have them at all. So you must use the right game chip, or the board will not function properly. Also the reel chip will need to be 120ns or faster on a 16Mhz MPU. This will come into play when you decide what game you want this to be.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 29, 2012, 08:28:02 PM
I look at the MPU it has no dip sw,s or volume control . So I guess it is a 16mhz


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 29, 2012, 08:30:45 PM
An I thought there was a empty socket, but looking closer I saw I was wrong  it is the CMOS chip


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on April 29, 2012, 10:03:13 PM
I look at the MPU it has no dip sw,s or volume control . So I guess it is a 16mhz

Ok, so your next step would be to procure a SP1272 (there are other type 0 SP chips, but that is probably the best bet) and a SET090. Best bet is to put a WTB in the classifieds. You will still need more stuff, but no sense in spending a lot of money if the machine has other serious issues.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on April 29, 2012, 10:32:13 PM
I will do that. Thanks much for the help


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on May 03, 2012, 03:02:52 AM
Will a sp1174 work


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: knagl on May 03, 2012, 05:42:07 AM
Will a sp1174 work

Not on a 16mhz board, no. Take a look at the following post which lists the available SP chips and what they support. If you have a 16mhz board, you must use a chip that's designated as a 16mhz chip.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=68.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=68.0)

If you're not positive that you have a 16mhz board, post a picture of the board here and we'll identify it for you. Always make sure the power is off when removing or inserting the MPU board.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on May 03, 2012, 09:31:06 AM
If you're not positive that you have a 16mhz board, post a picture of the board here and we'll identify it for you.

Posts 7&8 :209-


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: knagl on May 03, 2012, 11:02:47 AM
Posts 7&8 :209-

Oops.  :30-  I was browsing and posting from my phone and looked, but somehow missed that. Thanks, poppo.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: stayouttadabunker on May 03, 2012, 11:56:49 AM
I just took a look at those pictures and I'll be honest - I cannot tell whether or not it's a 10MHz or 16MHz MPU board?
I cannot actually see the plastic blue potentiometer volume control dial that's usually located above the CMOS chip.

Anyways, assuming that's it's an 16MHz board - the link knagl provided in Reply#28,
will definitely help Rick choose the proper SP chip.
To make things simple, I also agree with Poppo that an SP1272 would be a good choice for the 2 coin Wild Cherry game.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on May 03, 2012, 03:17:33 PM
I just took a look at those pictures and I'll be honest - I cannot tell whether or not it's a 10MHz or 16MHz MPU board?

Thus you ask to make sure and.....

I look at the MPU it has no dip sw,s or volume control . So I guess it is a 16mhz

 :96- :88-


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on May 03, 2012, 04:32:26 PM
Yes I agree from some of the replies I've gotten. I looked an it has no dip switches or volume control. Leaving me
To think 16mhz also. I found a sb1145. I'm going to give it a try.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on May 03, 2012, 04:39:11 PM
I found a sb1145. I'm going to give it a try.

I assume you meant SP1145. That should work. You will get some errors, but go here and use this chart to clear them.

http://www.newlifegames.net/igterrors/ (http://www.newlifegames.net/igterrors/)

For the 61, be sure to follow the directions carefully.
1 With door open, press self test button until it changes to 61_1
2 Close AND latch door.
3 Turn the jackpot reset key.

I'm pretty sure you are going to get some sort of error because the hopper is mising, but I'm not sure. But one step at a time.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on May 03, 2012, 04:55:25 PM
Yea that's what meant. Sp1145. Thanks for your help an I will keep you upto date on the progress


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on May 12, 2012, 05:36:12 PM
Update:::   Ok I put the game chip in sp 1145. turned the power on got a 61 error .Pressed the white test button got a 61.1.  Keep in mind that I still don't have a coin hopper yet or a (play-all-credits sw). When I turn the reset key I get a 65.3 error. I keep turning the reset key until all of the errors go a way. Then I can press the spill button and the reels will spin. Then I get a 43 error. Can you or some tell me what the problem might be. Thanks Rick


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on May 12, 2012, 05:41:26 PM
43 is a reel # 3 tilt. Open door and close. If it does it again, try swapping reels #2 & #3 temporarily (with power off) to see if it changes to a 42 error. If it does, you have a bad reel.  Before swapping reels, make sure nothing is binding on the reel.  Don't worry about changing reel strips or anything, this is just a test to see if it's the reel or something else.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on May 12, 2012, 05:43:35 PM
#3 reel does seem to be dragging when I spin it


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: poppo on May 12, 2012, 05:45:48 PM
#3 reel does seem to be dragging when I spin it

With power off? With power off, it should feel about the same as the other reels. But still swap them and see what happens. Just pull the plug under the reel and then pull the reel assy forward.


Title: Re: s+ I think
Post by: rickaaaer on May 12, 2012, 05:55:12 PM
I'll give that try. An let you know thanks. can you get glass game kits for oval top slots for double cherry.