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I have this machine that shows 50 .0.00 on the win meter and when I drop a quarter in it, it goes to the hopper but the tilt light comes on. I did the (2) test and all solenoids are pulling in etc. Also, the led lights on the reel boards are not on that may be part of the problem as well

Thanks,

David

are you getting anything other than 50 on the win meter when you go into tilt?  try running machine in 8 mode.
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No, just the 50 000. How do I run it the 8 mode?

Use the test button on the hopper board. Push it till you see an 8 in your win meter. At this point you should be able to drop a coin in or click the coin switch wire coin up the machine. You can do this with the door open. Pull the handle to test machine. I should play but won't pay out.

Gary

Ok, I tried that, got the 8 in the win meter hit the coin switch and even dropped a coin through the chute, went to the hopper, but the pull angle stayed in the locked position and would not allow to play a game. After that, the 8 remained in the window

Anything else I can try for this problem?

Thanks,

David

When you ran test 2 did you watch to see if the solenoid for your handle release worked? There is a test you can run, I think it's 3 that allows you to test your switches. I don't have my manual in front of me so I'm not 100% on the test number. It should show you if you coin switch works

Gary
 

I am not where the machine is right now, but will check and watch for the solonoid for the handle release. Does someone have info on the #2 and #3 test sequence in order?

Thanks,

David

on the #2 test sequence, everything seems to be activating, guess I will check my wiring next unless someone knows of something else I can do.

Run test 3.. That will allow you to check your doors coin switch.. I would also check the coin switch trip wire to make sure it's not too far down. If it is the coin could pass before it counts the coins..

Ok, back in front of this machine again. Ran the 2 test and the dolomite for the handle did work, ran the 3 test and the coin switch worked, ran the 8 test and all it would show in the window was 80 000, not the 82 000 like themanual said it should. I also tried the coin switch while in the 8 test and it stayed on 80 000.
Anything else I can check? It seems to me that the machine does not realize that it is ready for play/accept a coin mode

During my #3 test, my kick switch, #10 is not showing in the display when I close the switch, could this be part of the problem?

It is possible. You can try swapping it with the arm switch. The other thing you can do it check it with a meter. If it reads good on the meter then check for a broken wire.

I tried the arm switch in it's place, same results, not showing in the window when the switch is closed.

Then it sounds like you need to check the wiring from the switch to the molex plug on the back of the reels and from the plug back to the I/O board.

If I don't find a wire issue then could it be a component on the IO board?

It's possible.. If you look at page 54 of the E-Series Manual you will see that the Kick and arm switch wires are on J-3 Inputs, pins 1 & 2.. Check that connection for corrosion or a broken wire..

will do thanks

One leg on this resistor on the coin switch is not soldered to anything, could that be the issue as well?

I don't know if that's the problem, but the one end is soldered to the grey wire on the coin divertor just behind the switch. The other end is soldered to the left post on the coin switch, at least that's how the one is in my kitchen..  :96-

thanks for that info, i will solder it back and also look for a broken or damaged wire on the kick switch.

the problem was the white wire with a green trace on the bottom switch at the rear of the hopper. I traced it all the way back to the IO board and it was not snug in the red connector, pushed it down into the connector. Now it works fine, but when I drop a coin in, shouldn't it "ding" for each coin dropped? Also when I hit a payline, it shows the correct payout on the win meter but drops anywhere from 2-5 extra coins more than it should.

 Cool that you found the loose wire at the plug  :3-  as for the coin ding I've had only a few machine do that but I do remember on my Continental if I turned off switch 1 on the MPU I could turn the ding off. Now for the hoppers over pay check these 2 things. First check the metal piece what the coin goes under, it has 2 Phillips screw holding it in place. Make sure it's close enought to the coin wheel so only one coin will go under it. I think it's call a wiper. Then second on the bottom of the hopper motor is a brake. Make sure it's not broken and moves freely and that the springs hooked up. I guess there is a third thing too, make sure the hoppers coin switch is adjusted correctly. When a coin is on the wheel shelve at the knife it goes under a roller that should roll freely. Make sure the switch counts each coin. K+ for the Good work and keep us posted.

Gary

when you said check the bottom of the hopper, the brake, was you talking about the level switch?

If you turn the hopper over and look at it there is a flat metal spring loaded bracket. If you push that down you can rotate the hopper shelve wheel, and when you let go of it the shelve wheel stops rotating. Make sure those pivot points on the hopper motor move freely and are not sticking.

I can push that down and I can manually spin the coin wheel inside the hopper. When I do, it is just letting 1 quarter exit at a time so I can't see why it is letting to many out during a pay. When I do the #4 hopper test it only let's 10 put at a time as it should

Did you check the coin wiper to make sure only one coin can go under it and check your switch adjustment? Those and the brake are the only things that I know to check? You could do test five to see if your reel readers are reading and matching your payouts.

Gary

from what I can tell, only one coin at a time is passing through the wiper, what switch adjustment are you asking me to check? the level switch?

I'm not sure what you meen by a level switch? The one I'm asking you to check is a large black switch on the top of the hopper. It's the one on the other end of the roller and lever linkage that the coin goes under and lifts up just before they exit the hopper. Some have a small adjusting screw and nut that you use for the adjustment, others you just have to bend the switches trip lever

Ok, now it seems as if I have a new problem. While playing this game, the reels stopped in a non winning position, the bell went off and it started dropping coins non stop. But unlike other times upon a win, the meter was not showing winner paid nor was it rolling up how many coins were dropping. Well after a short time, it stopped dropping coins and the tilt light came on, but there is no code showing on the meter. Any idea as to what is causing this?

Thanks,

David

one other thing, now when I open the door, the top candle light does not come on, like it is not seeing that the main door is open

also on test #4 instead of the hopper releasing just 10 coins, it won't stop until all are gone from the hopper.

Sounds like you have a short or grounded wire? Have you checked behind the I/O and MPU to make sure nothing has gotten behind them like a coin or screw? I've never seen a run away hopper on an E-Series machine before?

Ok, looks as if it is working properly now. I don't know if this had anything to do with it or not but I removed the hopper and adjusted the knife and put the hopper back into the machine and now it is counting out the correct amount of coins on a winning payline. Thanks again for all of the help on this machine.

David

Cool David... Glad it working again. These old Bally's, sometimes I think they have a mind of there own.. One minute they are just humming along, and the next  :98- :wtf1-

I will keep my fingers crossed.