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Title: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 11, 2012, 06:02:28 AM Okay everyone who knew I was looking at this. I got it! The seller had it listed for $1800 with custom chair and stand. He went down to $1500. I offered $700, then $850...waited three weeks and finally we settled at $1000. Maybe that's high but I have never seen a Top Dollar for sale, ever. Normally I would never pay this but this is THE slot I've always had the most fun playing in the past and I also recently sold some old "junk" I had collected for nearly $700! So, that was my justification for this splurge.
It's in exceptionally clean condition and this price was for the set: slot, stool, stand. It needs a little cleaning and I snapped the picture just now. I'll clean it later...it's just smudges but I like my slots CLEAN. I've already got questions. I need a manual. And...I do want to add a hopper back and convert it to quarters...I think. The TD feature speaks "dollars" though and I don't know if that can be changed easily. Can it be converted to take dollar coins? I do have a collection of about 300 Eisenhower dollars. It's just laying on my garage floor for now. I'll show a picture of the entire set later. It works great although I'd like to turn the volume UP and can't see a volume control. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: cowboygames on July 11, 2012, 06:43:36 AM Congradulations! Thousand dollars is a great deal on that machine. The denom sticker is easy to change and if you check through the S2000 posts you'll find one with a menu directory to show you how to change the volume. I'm at work on my smartphone or I'd have more and better info for you
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Fourbyracer on July 11, 2012, 07:35:15 AM Congrats on a neat machine! I bought a sister machine to yours about a month ago--Double Triple Diamond Deluxe w/Cheese. I think the Barcrest machines are a lot of fun and I have been very happy with mine. Here is a re-post of the options manual to help you change the sound. It is the same procedure as any S2000. To start, with the machine on and the door open, push the white button on the front of the computer board. Then follow the manual directions. Very simple. If it has any static in the speakers (mine did), there are several threads detailing how to fix that up too. Have fun!
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: poppo on July 11, 2012, 01:49:16 PM Nice. But that is one tall machine! I would have to cut a hole in my ceiling. :96-
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: stayouttadabunker on July 11, 2012, 01:51:44 PM Cool Machine!!! :133-
:105- Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: IFFV68 on July 11, 2012, 02:07:47 PM Nice Machine & with the Stand & Stool it's even nicer.
To clean it right you will need a box of Q-tips. They can get everywhere. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: FORDSBS on July 11, 2012, 02:08:35 PM NICE GAME. :wa I don't have a barcrest in my collection.
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: CVslots on July 11, 2012, 02:15:02 PM You are going to love the S2000 platform, especially after what you've been working on! I estimate it will be less than 2 months and you will have another one! :89-
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: 4 Deuces on July 11, 2012, 02:39:24 PM NICE MACHINE!!! :91-
I love that game too. Congratulations! :3- Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 11, 2012, 02:55:44 PM I love that it still has the "gambling problem?" sticker on it! Here's a shot of the set...it's the Craigslist picture from the previous owner but at least everyone can see the set. It's fun to have the illuminated reels and the display in front ... telling me to KEEP gambling!
:208- Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Fourbyracer on July 11, 2012, 09:57:24 PM Nice. But that is one tall machine! I would have to cut a hole in my ceiling. :96- You should see the IGT/Barcrest with the topper on it! Its in the clouds. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 12, 2012, 05:18:18 AM Okay I've got questions already...
First, something funny I just noticed. Hard to see but at the BV, it says "Canadian bills only." :72- I guess it came from Canada? There is also a business card taped inside from a place in Ohio, where I assume the previous owner bought this. It, however, DOES take ALL U.S. bills, everything. :139- And, I love that it speaks the word "dollars" and not "credits." Here are my first two questions: 1. SOUND - there's audio coming out only on the right speaker. The left just has HISS and there's nothing on the cash tray speaker. I did check the settings and it's set to STEREO. 2. CONFUSED - My Top Dollar doesn't seem to know when to pay 2X or 4X! This is a Double Diamond Top Dollar. It's supposed to pay 2X (the Top Dollar offer) if one DD shows on the payline and 4X if two DD's are on the payline. It has paid a few times at 2X and once at 4X when the DD symbol was not on the center payline. :103- Other than that, the rest of the payouts are correct. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Fourbyracer on July 12, 2012, 07:54:13 AM Okay I've got questions already... First, something funny I just noticed. Hard to see but at the BV, it says "Canadian bills only." :72- I guess it came from Canada? There is also a business card taped inside from a place in Ohio, where I assume the previous owner bought this. It, however, DOES take ALL U.S. bills, everything. :139- And, I love that it speaks the word "dollars" and not "credits." Here are my first two questions: 1. SOUND - there's audio coming out only on the right speaker. The left just has HISS and there's nothing on the cash tray speaker. I did check the settings and it's set to STEREO. 2. CONFUSED - My Top Dollar doesn't seem to know when to pay 2X or 4X! This is a Double Diamond Top Dollar. It's supposed to pay 2X (the Top Dollar offer) if one DD shows on the payline and 4X if two DD's are on the payline. It has paid a few times at 2X and once at 4X when the DD symbol was not on the center payline. :103- Other than that, the rest of the payouts are correct. Sound: If the wires are not frayed and the connection to the board looks good, it probably is either be a bad board or the speaker. Both are pretty cheap and easy to replace. Someone else on the board should be able to tell you how to test the board. The coin tray speaker is routinely broken due to the molex connector design. Check that and if its broken, you have a few choices: 1. Salvage the old connector and try to make it work. 2. Wire the speaker up direct with enough wire so the coin tray can still be removed and set on the floor below the machine (in case you need to). 3. Get a new molex connector and try not to break it again. I have 3 S-2000's and all 3 were broken. Its just a part that likes to break with people slamming those coin trays in. Payout: The first thing to check is to make sure the reel strips are attached to the reels properly--ie the notches on the strips line up with the notches on the reels. If they are not on properly, the machine thinks different symbols are coming up. You may also have the wrong reel strips on there, or maybe just 1 reel strip is wrong. The reel 3 is most likely right since it has the bonus symbol. So its probably either reel 1 or 2 (and by your description, most likely reel 2 since it paid without the correct symbol there). Again, someone here should have the correct reel strip part numbers that belong on your machine. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: tollguy316 on July 12, 2012, 10:05:01 AM Shortrackskater; you're confused in regards to the 2x and 4x... It is a Double Top Dollar; but only offers 2x in the bonus If the 2x at the top of the top glass lights up. If your offer is 20 credits, then it's 20 credits... but If the offer is 20 credits and a 2x lights up ; then your offer is 40 credits and the voice will say your offer is " 20 credits times two, 40 credits" or If the offer is 20 credits and both of the 2x's light up ; then your offer is 80 credits and the voice would say " 20 credits, times two, times two , 80 credits" ..... Not every offer is multiplied by 2 ( quite the contrary). If a DD shows on the payline; it's a 2x multiplier for a possible winning reel spin.... A D on the payline with the Double Top Dollar emblem on the 3rd reel means nothing ... I hope I am explaining this correctly and not confusing the matter. . Bill
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 12, 2012, 11:43:32 AM congrats on your new toy!!!!! :105-
speaker probably has a bad amp board if it isnt the wires or loose plugs..... i had to swap a amp board to fix my noise issue on my top dollar, very simple part to replace.......barcrest are great machines!!! you bought it at a great price...... my next barcrest will be a red hottie........ Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 12, 2012, 01:56:50 PM Shortrackskater; you're confused in regards to the 2x and 4x... It is a Double Top Dollar; but only offers 2x in the bonus If the 2x at the top of the top glass lights up. If your offer is 20 credits, then it's 20 credits... but If the offer is 20 credits and a 2x lights up ; then your offer is 40 credits and the voice will say your offer is " 20 credits times two, 40 credits" or If the offer is 20 credits and both of the 2x's light up ; then your offer is 80 credits and the voice would say " 20 credits, times two, times two , 80 credits" ..... Not every offer is multiplied by 2 ( quite the contrary). If a DD shows on the payline; it's a 2x multiplier for a possible winning reel spin.... A D on the payline with the Double Top Dollar emblem on the 3rd reel means nothing ... I hope I am explaining this correctly and not confusing the matter. . Bill Bill - the only thing is that my belly glass seems to imply otherwise. I will add a better pic when I get home but the lower glass shows the 2x and 4x being in conjunction with the DD symbol falling on the payline when the TD symbol comes up...at least, that's what it appears to me. I could be wrong but it just doesn't make sense to have the DD theme with the TD theme and not have one DD mean two times pay of the bonus feature and two DD's become four times the bonus feature. I guess, though having the DD feature independent of the TD feature is good too. I'll add a fuzzy pic of my lower glass here. It's just barely distinguishable though, but you can see the DD symbol and the TD symbol together on the info line. I'll be home soon and snap a decent pic of that. Thank you for the help and comments, everyone. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: cowboygames on July 12, 2012, 02:14:16 PM Symbols on the reels mean nothing when it comes to the bonus round other than the one on the 3rd reel. The symbols on the reels only apply to winning combinations unrelated to the bonus game. On a 5X pay Wheel Of Fortune having 1 or 2 of the 5X symbols on the pay line with the wheel spin doesn't multiply that wheel spin by 5 or 25X whatever the wheel stopped on. Think of the bonus game as completely seperate from the reel game with it's own set of rules
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: tollguy316 on July 12, 2012, 02:22:37 PM EXACTLY.... Thanks Cowboy.
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 12, 2012, 02:23:17 PM With what you said cowboygames, and what Bill said...that's making more sense now. I guess I need to re-read the glass with that in mind. I wonder, though, why the designers wouldn't have incorporated the DD feature into the TD feature? But...I guess this makes "more fun" in that there's more random events that could happen!
Thank you for the added info! I had fun last night going (ever so slowly) into the menus and sub menus of the game :104- ...so much different than the s plus. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 12, 2012, 02:24:16 PM you only get whatever the bonus gives you not what lands on payline for example if you get triple diamond, triple diamond, and the bonus symbol on the line!!!!! you only get whatever the bonus round gives you not 9 times....... same goes as yours......
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: tollguy316 on July 12, 2012, 02:26:50 PM Not exactly true... If you get a cherry of a cherry and a DD ; then you are paid accordingly and additionally get the DTD bonus. Bill
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 12, 2012, 02:30:09 PM it should explain it on your glass similiar to mine!!!
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 12, 2012, 02:32:28 PM Not exactly true... If you get a cherry of a cherry and a DD ; then you are paid accordingly and additionally get the DTD bonus. Bill on any top dollar you do not get any additional credits if the bonus symbol lands on the 3rd line Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: poppo on July 12, 2012, 02:34:09 PM staz - $500 denomination? :127-
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: cowboygames on July 12, 2012, 02:43:24 PM With what you said cowboygames, and what Bill said...that's making more sense now. I guess I need to re-read the glass with that in mind. I wonder, though, why the designers wouldn't have incorporated the DD feature into the TD feature? But...I guess this makes "more fun" in that there's more random events that could happen! Thank you for the added info! I had fun last night going (ever so slowly) into the menus and sub menus of the game :104- ...so much different than the s plus. They have to do it that way to keep the payback percent in line, but still keep the frequency of winning combinations active enough to keep people interested in playing And yes, there are exceptions like on my Money Mad Martians. If I get a cherry or a multiplier with a cherry it will pay in addition to the bonus game win, but it NEVER multiplies the bonus round win from those symbols being on the line Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 12, 2012, 03:24:52 PM I stand corrected!!! I was confused...maybe it was the wine intake? :171-
I just read it wrong...I didn't see the word "EXCEPT," and I was assuming this was for the TD feature when it's simply an explanation for the DD feature of the machine. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 12, 2012, 07:33:20 PM Sound: If the wires are not frayed and the connection to the board looks good, it probably is either be a bad board or the speaker. Both are pretty cheap and easy to replace. Someone else on the board should be able to tell you how to test the board. The coin tray speaker is routinely broken due to the molex connector design. Check that and if its broken, you have a few choices: 1. Salvage the old connector and try to make it work. 2. Wire the speaker up direct with enough wire so the coin tray can still be removed and set on the floor below the machine (in case you need to). 3. Get a new molex connector and try not to break it again. I have 3 S-2000's and all 3 were broken. Its just a part that likes to break with people slamming those coin trays in. Thank you...again. Can someone let me know where the sound board is and how to check for whether it's the sound board or speaker. I'm assuming the left speaker is okay though, since it's got hiss coming from it. I'm off to work but hope to come back tonight and do some troubleshooting on this. Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: tollguy316 on July 12, 2012, 11:24:21 PM Not exactly true... If you get a cherry of a cherry and a DD ; then you are paid accordingly and additionally get the DTD bonus. Bill on any top dollar you do not get any additional credits if the bonus symbol lands on the 3rd line Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 13, 2012, 12:20:49 AM Not exactly true... If you get a cherry of a cherry and a DD ; then you are paid accordingly and additionally get the DTD bonus. Bill on any top dollar you do not get any additional credits if the bonus symbol lands on the 3rd line it looks like your right but never realized that my top dollar doesnt have cherrys....... on the wheel of fortunes when i get a cherry and the spin i just get the spin amount......i learn something different everyday :97- :97- tollguy :259- for proving me wrong lol.... Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Yoeddy1 on July 13, 2012, 12:58:31 AM Awesome machine! Congrats!
Jason Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Foster on July 13, 2012, 01:09:24 AM I think the phrase "Only The Highest Winner Paid" applies in many situations.
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: tollguy316 on July 13, 2012, 01:40:03 AM Not exactly true... If you get a cherry of a cherry and a DD ; then you are paid accordingly and additionally get the DTD bonus. Bill on any top dollar you do not get any additional credits if the bonus symbol lands on the 3rd line it looks like your right but never realized that my top dollar doesnt have cherrys....... on the wheel of fortunes when i get a cherry and the spin i just get the spin amount......i learn something different everyday :97- :97- tollguy :259- for proving me wrong lol.... Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: cowboygames on July 13, 2012, 01:52:17 AM Mine doesn't. My Martians game does though, but WOF isn't a barcrest game either
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 13, 2012, 02:52:47 AM Mine doesn't. My Martians game does though, but WOF isn't a barcrest game either i dont think wof does either but will check nexyt time im at the casino and playing the wof...... Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 13, 2012, 03:01:02 AM Okay...still need help on that soundboard...I'll poke around the forum and see but if anyone has a quick answer, let me know. Thanks again everyone for all the input on Top Dollar payouts!
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: cowboygames on July 13, 2012, 03:03:37 AM Have you troed swapping speaker leads to see if the problem stays with the bad speaker of follows the lead?
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 13, 2012, 03:07:00 AM I didn't since I haven't poked inside the machine much, yet! I'm going to head out to the garage now and try that. Thanks!
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 13, 2012, 03:27:44 AM Okay...still need help on that soundboard...I'll poke around the forum and see but if anyone has a quick answer, let me know. Thanks again everyone for all the input on Top Dollar payouts! sound board is in the right side of the top box....... first check all the connections then unplug all the conectors from the sound board and replug them in....... might be oxidation in the plugs..... this is what a amp board looks like...... Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 13, 2012, 03:30:18 AM also try to swap the speaker wires on top to see it could just be a bad speaker..... take appart the left connector and plug it into the right speaker.......
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 13, 2012, 03:39:01 AM okay dumb question ...never had a slot with a top box like this. How do I get the glass up and out? Is there another way?
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Yoeddy1 on July 13, 2012, 03:46:19 AM okay dumb question ...never had a slot with a top box like this. How do I get the glass up and out? Is there another way? Wayne (a69mopar) made a great video about this that you should check out. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp1SJBQNJ8E&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp1SJBQNJ8E&feature=plcp) Thanks, Jason Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 13, 2012, 03:59:41 AM :131-
That was perfect...thank you! Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Yoeddy1 on July 13, 2012, 04:02:29 AM :131- That was perfect...thank you! You're welcome! Jason Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 13, 2012, 04:31:17 AM That was much easier than I thought it would be...
I didn't see any obvious issues other than a large green wire just laying there, that looks like it should be screwed into something! I'm tired now but tomorrow I'll snap a picture and I'll also switch the speaker plugs and see what happens. I'm having fun with this machine! Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: cowboygames on July 13, 2012, 09:57:56 AM That fat green wire is a ground and for whatever reason they're generally just laying there like that
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 13, 2012, 12:48:40 PM i bet ya its the amp board......
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 13, 2012, 09:00:03 PM [/quote] Hey Staz... check you WOF again as I think you also get credits for a cherry even If you get the SPIN on the 3rd reel. I'm pretty sure on that ; but let us know for sure. Bill [/quote] i checked on wof you dont get anything if a cherry lands on payline with a spin!!!! as you see i hit 60 credits with the bonus and got nothing else for the cherry..... must be different on barcrest.... Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 13, 2012, 09:18:51 PM i bet ya its the amp board...... Is the amp board same as the sound board? Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: staz on July 13, 2012, 09:36:05 PM yes it is......
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Fourbyracer on July 13, 2012, 10:44:14 PM CVSlots (a member here) has one for $18 shipped on ebay right now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-S2000-Sound-Amplifier-/251073220185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a75214e59] (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-S2000-Sound-Amplifier-/251073220185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a75214e59) Pretty sure that is what you need and your only out $18 bucks if it doesnt fix your issue--plus you gain the knowledge of replacing it. Sounds like a deal to me! Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on July 17, 2012, 04:23:52 AM Well I uncovered my Top Dollar tonight and troubleshooted the speaker. The left worked when I switched the speaker cables. So I've ordered a new board from CV slots. I also had no audio from the lower speaker (found a GLUT of posts on that just now) and I could see that the molex was just a crappy design. So I made a jumper wire and tested the speaker with the tray out of the unit and got sound...GOOD "basey" sound. Then I just detached the plug in the unit, removed the anchor plate and then chopped the surround useless plastic from that plug. There actually was enough slack in the wiring to just attach it to the speaker plug and feed the excess in. I attached the tray and powered up the machine and now have most of the sound. I LOVE the lower speaker. So far, I've had no problem with any static as I read in lots of posts here. I know this machine was somewhat refurbished so maybe if it was a problem earlier, it was fixed!
I also played with the sound settings and now it makes a nice electronic "click" when each reel stops. The solenoid sound was annoying. I also adjusted the middle display since the words looked like they were going to fall out as them scrolled right to left! :72- The unit had just unscrewed on the right side. I'm sure all of you have hashed this info out before but I was excited to make some progress on this machine. Title: I got it in the house. Oh...my aching back! Post by: shortrackskater on August 04, 2012, 02:25:29 AM Well I bribed the neighbors and got two people to help me move this beast in my room. There's about 2 inches clearance from the candle to the ceiling...but it just fits. Still have a mess to clean up but here's the complete set I bought: slot, stand, stool. Soon you will see a one dollar head on this machine and then I'll have a place for my 350 Eisenhower dollar coins.
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Yoeddy1 on August 04, 2012, 02:33:20 AM Nice CEI poker machine too! I had one just like it with red glass. Sold it when I bought my Game King. Sometimes I wish I had it back. I have the emulated rom in my MAME cabinet, but it's just not the same as the original.
Jason Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on August 04, 2012, 03:06:09 AM I should have powered up the CEI for the shot! It looks great...and you don't see all the burn in either. It's fun...lots of cool 80's BEEP sounds on it too. Next to these two are my Bally 1114. Behind that are my Bally Video Twentyone, Fortune One and my S plus Double diamond. Oops...forgot the Mills open front. It's on the right of the CEI!
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Yoeddy1 on August 04, 2012, 03:10:17 AM Oh you should take a video of the CEI. There isn't one anywhere on YouTube. Many would dig it!
Jason Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on August 04, 2012, 03:28:38 AM Ask and you shall receive! It's uploading right now. Staying away from my Top Dollar post so I mentioned it in the video! :72-
Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: Yoeddy1 on August 04, 2012, 03:33:00 AM Ask and you shall receive! It's uploading right now. Staying away from my Top Dollar post so I mentioned it in the video! :72- You are the man! As you can see by my signature, I'm sort of a video nut when it comes to gambling devices. ;) Jason Title: Re: Well I did it! My first S2000. Post by: shortrackskater on August 04, 2012, 03:57:32 AM Here you go!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8JoEwRurmE&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8JoEwRurmE&feature=plcp) |