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Title: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on July 16, 2012, 04:41:52 AM
I bought a Bally 2270-35 -- 3 reel quarter machine from a neighbor who is moving away. 

It works, but the third reel won't light up or spin.  The first two reels work fine.

My neighbor said it needed a new "electronic eye" that I could buy on eBay for $15.  He said it would sense something and make the reel spin.

I looked on eBay and several other places.

I cannot find any part for the machine called an "electronic eye" or anything close to that name.

I have a few questions.

1.  Do you have an idea what the name of the part he refers to is?

2.  Do you know where I could get the part for a reasonable price?

3.  Do you agree that it is the part I need to make the third reel spin?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Best,

Victoria


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on July 16, 2012, 03:49:21 PM
Hi Victoria and  :238-

Quick question, you say the first two reels spin but the third doesn't at all? Do the first two continue to spin till they finally stop but don't lock in place? Sounds like you have a problem with the reel reader board. Do you have a number code showing in the front door win meter when this happens? If possible pleased post pictures, they are very helpful to us. I do carry parts or can repair yours in most cases.

Thanks Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on July 26, 2012, 07:52:19 PM
Hi Gary,

Sorry for taking so long to respond.  I believe you are correct that it is a reel reader board.

The first two reels spin and stop normally, but the third reel doesn't work.

My adult son Justin, who comes over to help me out sometimes, talked to the neighbor again and he showed him which part it is.  It is a printed circuit board.  My son removed it from the machine and the reels are out, so I  could not take pics of codes to send you.

The neighbor also gave Justin the contact info for the guy on eBay he deals with for parts.  Neighbor said it could be repaired or replaced for $15.

Justin had been communicating with the guy on eBay, but when he asked him for an address to send the board to, the guy got weird and said he didn't trust giving his address out unless Justin bought a booklet or something first.

Justin told me about all this yesterday.  That's why I had not responded -- I thought Justin was taking care of it.

That seems like flakey behavior to me!

Anyway, if you think it is something you could fix or replace for a reasonable price, I would like to pursue it with you.

My funds are rather limited, as I am handicapped, on Social Security Disability.  The slot machine was only $75 and I bought it because neighbor said it could be fixed for $15.

I'm not expecting you to charge only $15 if that is not your price, but would like to keep in mind that my funds are very limited, so whatever your best price is....  I know you need to make your profit so it is worth your time to do it.

Thanks for your reply.

If there is a way for me to send you the board for repair, please let me know.

Best,

Victoria


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Hi Victoria and 

Quick question, you say the first two reels spin but the third doesn't at all? Do the first two continue to spin till they finally stop but don't lock in place? Sounds like you have a problem with the reel reader board. Do you have a number code showing in the front door win meter when this happens? If possible pleased post pictures, they are very helpful to us. I do carry parts or can repair yours in most cases.

Thanks Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on July 26, 2012, 08:23:50 PM
Hi Victoria. I have rebuilt parts in stock and would do one of two things. I can repair yours and send it back or do a trade for one that I  have already repaired. I will do it for the $15 plus return shipping cost. So your total would be $20-$22 depending on what the Post Office charges now a days. I gaurentte my parts to work. I take Paypal, money orders or even checks, but they need to clear the bank. Let me know what you think.

Thanks Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on July 26, 2012, 08:40:34 PM
I can do PayPal, if that is best for you.

I'll PM you my PayPal info.  Then you could generate a PayPal invoice for the $22.00 and send me your mailing address so I can send you the board for repair or replacement.

Best,

Victoria


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on July 28, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
I paid via PayPal and mailed the defective reel reader board to you. 

Thanks for your help!


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on July 28, 2012, 07:42:38 PM
Thanks Victoria.. I will let you know when it arrives and is on its way back 2 you
Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 08, 2012, 01:58:29 AM
Got the card back quickly -- thanks!  Very fast and friendly service.  If I can figure out how to give you Karma points, I will.

My son installed the card and used your instructions.  But now we have another problem(s).

The machine shows TILT when we turn it on.

The handle won't pull.  (I assume it's because it's on TILT.)

Is there a way to reset it from the TILT?



Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 08, 2012, 02:23:08 AM
You should see two small red buttons/switches on your hoppers circuit board. One reads reset the other says test. Push lhe left one then the right one, you should hear your machines solenoids cycle and the tilt should clear. Do you have a manual for your slot machine? You can give a person karma by clicking on the green and red thumbs located in ones profile. If you don't have a manual, I think I have one downloaded I could send you.

Gary

You now have Karma...   :88-


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 08, 2012, 02:28:48 AM
Getting ready to follow your instructions.

I'll do Karma points for you in a few minutes.

No, I do not have a manual.  Would be grateful if you could email me a manual.

BTW - we checked to make sure it is level and it is level

Thanks  Gary, for your help...you're the best!

Victoria


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 08, 2012, 02:33:21 AM
Gary, we followed your instructions and got the TILT to clear, but

the handle still won't pull.  Didn't want to force it.

Also, it is very iffy about accepting quarters.  It will accept about every other one.


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 08, 2012, 02:38:27 AM
Gary, I went to your profile to give you Karma points, but didn't see any green and red thumbs.

I was on my iMac browser -- Safari, and didn't see the red and green thumbs, so I switched to Firefox, just in case Safari wasn't compatible with the site, but no red and green thumbs on your profile there, either.

Am I missing some step I should do to see the thumbs?


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 08, 2012, 05:30:39 AM
I'll have to email you the manual tomorrow, it's on my desk top computer. The karma thumbs up (Green) & (Red) down can be seem on any posting like this one. They are on the left side of the post between your user name and picture. One thing you can do is check your machines fuses, located behind to hopper on the back wall. Your reader had a burnt mark on the trace caused by something grounding out on it. Wasn't big but could have taken out a fuse. That could by why the handle solenoid won't energize when coined up. Need a little more information on your coin problem.. Are to coins not being counted or jamming up? If jamming up where. Glad to help.

Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 08, 2012, 10:51:01 AM
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Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 08, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
I got the mail -- THANK YOU!!

Will have my son check the fuses next time he comes over -- Friday, probably.  Are they standard fuses -- available at Lowes or Home Depot?

The coins go in, but don't drop to the spot where they will trigger the machine to say it accepted the coin.  About every other one will be accepted.  The others go to some little hopper.

I'm attaching a screenshot of what I see on this forum -- no thumbs anywhere.

Am I too new to the forum to have that feature?



Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 08, 2012, 09:37:39 PM
That weird  :103- they show up on my phone, and computers between karma storm and on or off line.. Maybe someone else can  :99- figure that out for you.. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with Safari your using? Radio shack or and electronics store would have fuses if you need them. The best way to check fuses is with an ohm / voltage meter. Now for your coin jams it could just be that the coin mech is dirty. Open it up and clean the inside where the coin slide through.

Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 08, 2012, 09:47:02 PM
Thanks for the info.

I will let you know progress when my son comes back.

I tried viewing with Firefox also, and the screens looked the same -- no thumbs.

I wonder if the admins have new accounts set to not see the karma thumbs?


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 08, 2012, 09:49:57 PM
Gary,

I just now was able to see the thumbs!  After my 10th post.

Anyhow, I just clicked on a green thumb by your name to give you karma points.

Best,

Victoria


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 08, 2012, 10:02:48 PM
Gary,

I just now was able to see the thumbs!  After my 10th post.

Anyhow, I just clicked on a green thumb by your name to give you karma points.

Best,

Victoria

Thanks.. I guess that answers both or questions. Keep me posted.
Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 10, 2012, 03:03:37 AM
My son came over tonight, along with his friend, who repairs computers.

He tested all the fuses he could see and they were fine.

He reseated some stuff and the handle works now.

The coin acceptor is still weird.  Sometimes accepts and sometimes it jams.

Another issue shows up now.

When it accepts coins, the handle works and the reels start to spin.

Reel one stops and locks in place, then reel two does the same.  But as soon as reel two locks in place, it TILTs. The third reel keeps spinning and will not lock.

The code in the window is 143 I think.  It displays a 1 and then a 43.



Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 10, 2012, 03:06:32 AM
It also TILTed once when no reels stopped or locked on place.

The error code then was 341 -- a 3 then a 41 in the window.


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 10, 2012, 03:17:17 AM
I had to edit the code on the post immediately above.  It was  3 followed by a 41.

It has tilted this way, with none of the reels locking a few times.


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 10, 2012, 04:32:37 AM
Ok let's see what we can do.. The first number is how many coins played. The 41 code is for the first reel & 43 is for the third reel error. A 42,would have been the second reel..  There is a list of codes in the manual towards the back pages... A couple of things can cause the codes, usually they need to have the reel readers adjusted. The reel readers optics could be dirty. I take the out of the machine, remove the two Phillips screws holding them together. Once removed separate the two pieces, there will be two wires connecting both parts, just be careful. Then I like to use rubbing alcohol to clean everything, dry and reassemble the two halfs and put them back in the machine and adjust your gaps. Again thats in the manual, I think under section 5. One other thing that can cause the code is if the reels spin too slow. There are oil holes located on one side of the hubs of the reels where they spin of the shaft. A couple of drops of a light weight oil in those holes goes a long way, so don't use too much or you could make a mess. Try those thing a see what happens.

Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 10, 2012, 04:55:15 AM
Thanks, Gary.

Will try those things and let you know.

More karma points coming your way.


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: rainman on August 11, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
 Hi Gary,

Thanks!  was having the same trouble with my new 1080 nickel machine we discussed, I follows your "good advice" and clean the  reel readers optics, and that did the trick the machine is working now...no more "Tilt" and  last reel stop as it should  karma to you !


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 12, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
Gary,

Thanks for all your advice.

My son cleaned the reel reader boards with alcohol and also used a pressurized air can to clean the coin acceptor. 

Now, the coins no longer jam (hooray!)

But...it doesn't register that the coins were accepted most of the time.  We try many times and it will rarely register the coin.

On the one occasion where we got it to accept the coin, reels 1 and 2 locked into place as they should, but reel 3 continued to spin and we got a TILT with error code 73.

The book says error code 73 means "reel spinning after indexing" but I don't know what that means.

So, we still have 2 issues:

1.  Coin acceptor doesn't register the coins -- they just fall through.

2.  Third reel still spins without locking in place and TILTs.  We had you repair the reel reader card for reel 3 and we cleaned it as you suggested.  Any ideas of what else we should do?

Victoria


P.S.  Glad the advice helped others, too.


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 12, 2012, 10:56:25 PM
Ok lets try this, lets try swapping out reel readers 2 & 3 to see if the problem moves to the second position.. If it's the reel reader then your second reel won't stop and you will get a code 42. If it remains the same then we have something else wrong.. If there is still a problem with the reel reader you sent me, I'll take care of it at my cost.. There is one other thing to try with the reader, you could run test 5 using your hopper boards test button. Push the test button 5 time or until you see a 5 in your win meter. make sure that all 3 reel readers are lighting up.. If not try moving 2 & 3 readers.. As for your coin problem check the black switch under the coin acceptor. It has a wire lever that the coin trips to register the coins. It could be bent down too far not allowing the coin to register.. Also check the wiring to your switch.. 

Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 18, 2012, 06:28:52 PM
I'm still waiting for my son to come over again.  Will let you know when he tries your suggestions.

Best,

Victoria


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: StatFreak on August 19, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
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I'm attaching a screenshot of what I see on this forum -- no thumbs anywhere.

Am I too new to the forum to have that feature?

Hi toria :88- . I want to wish you a slightly belated :238-. Yes, you are correct. Members must have 25 or 50 posts (I've forgotten where we set it) to be able to give karma.

I gave Amachanic a karma on your behalf and gave you another one as well.

StatFreak :31-
:nlg-  Global Moderator


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 20, 2012, 02:59:03 AM
Thank you, StatFreak!


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 20, 2012, 03:08:54 AM
Gary,

My son switched reel reader cards 2 and 3.

The coin acceptor issue seems to have resolved itself (for now).  Justin used compressed air to blow it out.

The third wheel still won't lock in place.  With the machine open, it still spins freely.  The other two reels lock in place.

With the door closed, after we put the coins in, the handle will no longer pull, so we cannot tell what would happen then.

Justin used the reset buttons and made sure the reel assembly was seated, but the handle still won't pull.

Any ideas?



Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 21, 2012, 12:24:56 AM
Hi Victoria...

When a coin is inserted in the machine with the door closed, does the machines light change or light up, coin 1, coin two, coin three? With the door closed what is showing in the win meter? It should be 50000. If you have the machine in a test mod, like 3,4,or 5, does the closing the front door stop the test? Once you close the front door will stop any testing.. I'm not 100% what might be causing your third reel problem.. I would start by looking at the wiring on the reels assembly.. I would also check the 2 plugs in the back right side of reels... Look for a loose wire or a loose or dirty pin connectors..

Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on August 21, 2012, 01:33:56 AM
Yes, the lights come on for coin one, two, three when coins are inserted, but the handle won't pull.

And with the door closed, the win meter says 50000.

I don't know how to put the machine into a test mod.

I will ask my son to look at the wiring as you suggested, and will let you know.

Thanks,

Victoria


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on August 21, 2012, 03:00:07 AM
Does your son have a voltage meter? I would like to have him check the 5 volt, 7.5 v, and 10v reading coming off the test points on the small power supply circuit board mounted on the back wall behind the hopper. Have your son look at the manual under section 2 or 3 on how to use the hopper control board to run a machines test of all the switches and solenoids. In that test you will see the handles solenoid cycle.

Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on September 06, 2012, 06:52:29 PM
Update:  I am still waiting for my son and his friend to come over and perform those tests you recommended.  Will let you know aftere they come and do the tests.

Thanks for your great advice.

Victoria



Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: Amachanic on September 06, 2012, 10:05:36 PM
Hi Victoria. Keep us posted when you can. It look like its not a reel reader problem since swapping 2 & 3 didn't change how the machine operated. Like I said earlier, sound like I would be checking the reels assembly's wiring and look closely at the two plastic plugs on the back right corner of the reels assembly. Could be as simple as one of the pin connectors are not making good connection.

Gary


Title: Re: Bally 2270 question
Post by: toria on November 24, 2012, 01:05:19 AM
I'm still waiting for someone to come and test my boards.  My son cleaned the reel reader optics.

Will let you know when I make progress.  

Thanks for your generous help, Gary.

Victoria