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Title: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 03, 2012, 03:20:24 PM
I have this problem.
I have replaced the IO board, Vacuum board and the display and stipp get the No display.
When you first turn on the display shows for about 30 seconds and goes blank.
any suggestions?
thanks
Darell


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 03, 2012, 04:27:50 PM
Hey Darell,

This is going to sound "way out in left field", but I can reproduce this exact behavior with certain DSV SIMM's.  Which game do you have and if you remove the DSV SIMM and MML2 board, does the problem go away?

When it's blank, is the game still functional or is it not working at all?  Do coins or bills register?  If the above doesn't change anything, does a different MPU or power supply change anything?

Thanks,
Jason


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 03, 2012, 04:44:07 PM
Jason,
The machine is still functioning. I have replaced the mpu board  and also removed the light board. Also replaced the power supply.
the game is quack shot.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 03, 2012, 04:47:32 PM
we have lepoard claw doing same thing  , i ours won,t setup it can,t take coins /bills, we done a few clears but still nothing  once the left display goes blank the right side flashes no disp


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 03, 2012, 04:57:17 PM
 I also replaced the top box power supply
Same thing. It comes up at first but goes blank after a few seconds


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: blueridgeslots on September 03, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
You are probably using a 5-5-2 display and either using too new game chips and/or have too many credit digits trying to display, common on 5 reel games not the Quack, try a 6-6-3 display


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Neonkiss on September 03, 2012, 08:51:42 PM
You are probably using a 5-5-2 display and either using too new game chips and/or have too many credit digits trying to display, common on 5 reel games not the Quack, try a 6-6-3 display


I have some, if you want to try it.
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If it dosen't solve your problem you can return it. Just pay shipping.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 03, 2012, 08:52:35 PM
mine is a 5 reel game that sounds  a good reason  tue i,ll check what display is in it


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Foster on September 03, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
If the player display (7-segment) is showing "no disp" that means the VFD controller is not communicating with the machine (has nothing to do with the 7 segment being a 5-5-2 or 6-6-3)
if the 7 segment does not match the machine config you will see "Display Type Mistmatch" on the VFD


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: blueridgeslots on September 03, 2012, 10:17:24 PM
If the player display (7-segment) is showing "no disp" that means the VFD controller is not communicating with the machine (has nothing to do with the 7 segment being a 5-5-2 or 6-6-3)
if the 7 segment does not match the machine config you will see "Display Type Mistmatch" on the VFD


Yes it will, seen it and fixed that, not talking about a wrong setting (mismatch), trying to put too many digits in a 5-5-2 will cause it, such as tokenizing to small denoms, also wrong VFD software (too old) could cause it to I guess if newer GME chips


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 03, 2012, 10:39:30 PM
I installed 198 gme chips and it still does not come up
I came with 523 and it did not work with those.
I have just about changed everything with no.luck
Thank you all for your help
Will keep.trying
Darell


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 04, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
our leopard claw  has no disp on right side
it has a 6 6 2 display
sb10168
sg 000597
dspl0002
ver
vs011gx1
done clears and key but won.t go past the no disp
hints?


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Foster on September 04, 2012, 09:09:46 PM
what does the VFD show on it?


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 04, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
in begining goes thur reg stuff  then goes blank and right side lights says  no disp , i have more hour  in this game then last 15 i did


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Foster on September 04, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
try a different VFD in the machine also make sure the wires to the VFD are being pinched in the door hinge as well.

I am going to change the denom on mine as test to find the exact message displayed when credits are larger than a particular display size

The 7 Segment will put Cdisp. if the number of credits is greater than what the display can show correctly. see the attached picture
I changed the player 1 denom to 1 cent and inserted a ticket valued at $14,700.00 now if I pick another denom on the touchpad then the display shows proper credits.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 04, 2012, 09:44:18 PM
i looked at wires    my display goes the long way  across  6 6 2 all in 1 row i know i had 1 game that asked me which display it had and i was able to set it up this one won,t go past the no disp


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Foster on September 04, 2012, 10:02:44 PM
Is the VFD hardware one or two boards?
the 2 board version has the interface/driver mounted on the door panel below the display.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 04, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
2 boards


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Foster on September 04, 2012, 10:37:35 PM
what version is the chip on the driver?
I suspect if it is not VFD00007 or newer it not going to work with those game chips


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 04, 2012, 11:27:52 PM
where do i find that chip? so i can read numbers?


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 04, 2012, 11:39:46 PM
some how it went from my post to slot steve.
but I replaced mine with a newer game chips and a 6 6 3 display and do not get any display with the 6 6 3 but if I put back the 5 5 2 it comes up for a few seconds and goes away i do hace the 007 chip on the display


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 04, 2012, 11:47:19 PM
where would that 07 chip be located ?  i was hoping either you are i would find out  why we are getting the no disp , i have  spent way too much time on this slot, and got no farther than i was when it came in, lets hope both of us get these going


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 04, 2012, 11:51:29 PM
the vfd00007 is on the board with the white cover over it mounted to the panel


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 04, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
thanks i,ll check mine on weds, i got fingers crossed , just hope i have  right chip in one of the junkers


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 04, 2012, 11:59:51 PM
it sounds like both of ours are doing the same thing.mine is a 3 reel
could it possibly be the mother board ?
that is the only thing i have not replaced


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 05, 2012, 12:05:00 AM
my end display was  not put in right i wonder if they just put anyone in to make slot complete ,  once i get number off that chip maybe i can find out what should be in this slot , leopards claw


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Foster on September 05, 2012, 02:04:19 AM
it is possible I had a motherboard with damaged traces near the power and netplex connectors.
That is why the enhanced motherboards have fuses to prevent it.
shortly before I replaced the motherboard (for the 50x series MPU's) my machine would be ready to play including the player buttons being lit up correctly, the VFD would be reading Display Netplex Link is Down. I would press the max bet, machine would apply the credits to the game and do nothing. I would cycle the power machine would come up, it became a daily occurance.
motherboard replaced issue disappeared.
This is why I do not recommend anyone uses the netplex ports to power anything just a bit risky doing it. either use the power leads that feed power to the motherboard or power dist board(s) if yours has them.
That is also why IGT has added a second power dist board to the lower cabinet as well.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 06, 2012, 12:00:10 AM
Well i have it solved, Thanks to Brokenticker
It was the bill acceptor.
I did not want to believe it but I pulled it out, turned on the machine  and the display came up and stayed up.
thanks to all of you for your help.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 06, 2012, 12:04:09 AM
Wow!  That's interesting.  Good job getting it fixed.

Jason


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slotsteve on September 06, 2012, 09:18:04 AM
i,ll try that i put in another display and still got no disp on it , spent way to much time on this slot


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 08, 2012, 04:13:50 PM
Ok new problem same machine.
Now that i have a display I am going thru the clear procedures after you push the button for 3-5 seconds then close the door. well the message close the door stays on after I close it. I have changed the optics and finally bypassed the optics and can never get past close the door.
help


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: cowboygames on September 08, 2012, 06:06:10 PM
Corrosion under the green battery maybe?


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 09, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
I have replaced the MPU board.
I am stumped.
All wires seam to be in tact.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Buzz on September 09, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
Darell  Just want to throw this out there, The optic wires go from the door to a two wire plug most times located behind or just below # 1 reel. Wires from the other side of that two wire plug go to the cabnet optics.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 09, 2012, 03:00:09 PM
it all seams to be there I even bypassed the optics with no luck


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Buzz on September 09, 2012, 03:05:41 PM
If those two plugs are not connected the bypass won't work.

Maybe it will, let me think about it.


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 15, 2012, 07:09:07 PM
Well i finally got it fixed.It was the belly switch was bad.
thanks for all your help
Darell


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 15, 2012, 07:21:09 PM
Darell, you are the man!  Good job!

Jason


Title: Re: No Disp" flashing on credit meter
Post by: slots4home on September 15, 2012, 07:28:39 PM
I was just about ready to junk it.